Laptop overclocking adventures

[kwchang007]

Originally Posted by theonetruewill

Oh I hate Dell's! They seem to deliberately mislead people into thinking they've got what they want and when you've paid you realise you've got a Bios that looks like its got parental controls on it!

hahahaha we've got two dells in our house, my parents really like the price when you get the 30% off coupons. but for a laptop, idk of any bios that allows you to oc except for the super high end laptop. maybe there's a workaround....

[theonetruewill]

Originally Posted by kwchang007

hahahaha we've got two dells in our house, my parents really like the price when you get the 30% off coupons. but for a laptop, idk of any bios that allows you to oc except for the super high end laptop. maybe there's a workaround....

There is a way I think to edit the BIOS' something like Nibitor... not sure of the spelling, that is used if you upgrade something big in the laptop. I wonder if that could change things.

[kwchang007]

Originally Posted by theonetruewill

There is a way I think to edit the BIOS' something like Nibitor... not sure of the spelling, that is used if you upgrade something big in the laptop. I wonder if that could change things.

you mean like mod the bios to let me change the settings.....hmm im not a programmer at all, i have a hard enough time with myspace html, lol

[theonetruewill]

Originally Posted by kwchang007

you mean like mod the bios to let me change the settings.....hmm im not a programmer at all, i have a hard enough time with myspace html, lol

Well if you can find the program see if you can find some guides on it.
Oh wait found it,

I only say this because in this article they edit th BIOS with NibiTor to let the motherboard accept the new gpu, so maybe you can edit other things as well. But I understand if you think it looks complicated. If you were to ever do it I advise getting a lot of help, thats what I'd do.

[DOM]

well i'll be getting a Laptop in April, and I want to ask if it was a good price $1200 a lil less

well its a dell

SPECS.

OS
Vista

CPU
Intel® CoreTM 2 Duo Processor T5600
(1.83GHz/667MHz FSB/2MB L2 Cache

MEM
1GB 667MHz

HD
80GB 7200 RPM

Screen 15"

CD Burner not sure if its DVD Burner to

so is that a good Price??

[theonetruewill]

Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

well i'll be getting a Laptop in April, and I want to ask if it was a good price $1200 a lil less

well its a dell

SPECS.

OS
Vista

CPU
Intel® CoreTM 2 Duo Processor T5600
(1.83GHz/667MHz FSB/2MB L2 Cache

MEM
1GB 667MHz

HD
80GB 7200 RPM

Screen 15"

CD Burner not sure if its DVD Burner to

so is that a good Price??

IN my opinion, no. I got my laptop a year ago (see system specs) for £750, so what.... US is cheaper so.... proabably $1200. So for those sort of specs I woulddn't go for it.
I spent a year looking around so I could get the best deal on a lapt (yeah how sad am I) and I decided seriosuly against dells, because although the'yre quite cheap for desktops they're shit expensive (in my opinion) for non-business laptops (exclude XPS).

For that sort of price aim for 2Ghz plus Core 2
X1600 or higher gfx (so at least you might be able to do some gaming if you desire so when moving around- honestly I recommend this, the ability to do it is worth it)
1Gb of RAM, (although I reckon you might be able to get more)
80Gb HDD and above ( 7200 is v.good, make sure its at least 5200rpm, I found that many of the laptops don't tell you the speed, and then you find out its 4100rp )
DVD R/RW+- (you will want this cos of the small HDD's, even if you think you won't fill it up, you will, trust me.)

Hope thats ok.

[theonetruewill]

This is proof that Dell are bad value:-
http://www.zepto.com/Shop/Notebook.aspx?notebookid=135

Configure that and I garantee you'll beat the Dell hands down. Plus I like this company they always perform well with those gfx cards.

Hope that helped.

[DOM]

well my moms going to get it through here work and give if to the wife cuz she want one which make me cuz I dont have to pay for it

and it also has 3ys warranty and well those are the only things I remember from what it has, she toke the paper with all the specs with her, when they went back home

and Im not going to game on it im always driving when we go out of town

and I might get one through my work so is that the best place to get a laptop


that link is for only in Europe

[theonetruewill]

Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

well my moms going to get it through here work and give if to the wife cuz she want one which make me cuz I dont have to pay for it

and it also has 3ys warranty and well those are the only things I remember from what it has, she toke the paper with all the specs with her, when they went back home

and Im not going to game on it im always driving when we go out of town

and I might get one through my work so is that the best place to get a laptop


that link is for only in Europe

Oops sorry about the link, its said that was pat of the international site so I thought it would be ok. And not game on your laptop? Heretic!

PS, why get a 3yr warranty out of interest. It'll be so out of date in 3 years you won't care if it goes wrong.

[DOM]

Originally Posted by theonetruewill

Oops sorry about the link, its said that was pat of the international site so I thought it would be ok. And not game on your laptop? Heretic!

PS, why get a 3yr warranty out of interest. It'll be so out of date in 3 years you won't care if it goes wrong.

well its still going to be good to surf the net and burn cds

I still got my P4 2.8GHz dell and its okay

but everthing is outdated in a yr. or less now

but is'nt yours already out dated

[theonetruewill]

Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

well its still going to be good to surf the net and burn cds

I still got my P4 2.8GHz dell and its okay

but everthing is outdated in a yr. or less now

but is'nt yours already out dated

Yes mine is outdated but I got it for the same price a year ago and I'd get mine over yours again if only for the gfx, thats why I thought yours was poor value. Its only a bit better, not enough.

[DOM]

Originally Posted by theonetruewill

Yes mine is outdated but I got it for the same price a yar ago and I'd get mine over yours again if only for the gfx, thats why I thought yours was poor value. Its only a bit better, not enough.

well mines free lol my wife or my mom is going to pay for it but I rather play on my desktop then a laptop

but i need more games the only one i play is fear online i have far cry and Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter but i need to install them

[kwchang007]

Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

well i'll be getting a Laptop in April, and I want to ask if it was a good price $1200 a lil less

well its a dell

SPECS.

OS
Vista

CPU
Intel® CoreTM 2 Duo Processor T5600
(1.83GHz/667MHz FSB/2MB L2 Cache

MEM
1GB 667MHz

HD
80GB 7200 RPM

Screen 15"

CD Burner not sure if its DVD Burner to

so is that a good Price??

imo that's actually kinda a bad price. my laptop was like 950, you may want to see if using a coupon is cheaper, but the warrente is really nice. i only have the 1 year one, and they kinda shipped me a hdd when mine died, so idk if you would rather have a fast laptop, or something that will last 3 years guarenteed. oh and what do you plan to do on it? if you are like typing documents and stuff that you don't need the computer to go fast, id recommend dropping the laptop to a 5400 rpm and a bigger hdd. mine's specs say it's 120gb but after all the partitions that dell puts in, it's more of around 111 gb, and i had a 80gb one at first. i was scared i would run out of room, i mean os, the games (only like 4), programs, my documents (music school work...you know normal stuff) dropped it to like....15-20 gb of free space. umm i just have a question for everyone out there, does the ram have to go through the cpu in order to be used by the rest of the system? or can parts of the computer (hdd, vid card) access it seperatly?

[kwchang007]

Originally Posted by theonetruewill

Well if you can find the program see if you can find some guides on it.
Oh wait found it,

I only say this because in this article they edit th BIOS with NibiTor to let the motherboard accept the new gpu, so maybe you can edit other things as well. But I understand if you think it looks complicated. If you were to ever do it I advise getting a lot of help, thats what I'd do.

oh ok thanks, that's an intresting mod. i wish i could do something like that to my laptop, i've heard the e1705 has the same physical port, but the only problem is power delievery and heat, the e1505 has one fan while the e1705 has two. if dell would've put in like the extra 20 bucks to sticak another fan in, i might've been able to mod the laptop with a 7900gs

[theonetruewill]

Originally Posted by kwchang007

oh ok thanks, that's an intresting mod. i wish i could do something like that to my laptop, i've heard the e1705 has the same physical port, but the only problem is power delievery and heat, the e1505 has one fan while the e1705 has two. if dell would've put in like the extra 20 bucks to sticak another fan in, i might've been able to mod the laptop with a 7900gs

Well, you could just see what happens if you don't have tht fan. So it get a bit hotter, just make sure you've got an external cooler and it'll probably be fine

[DOM]

So where is best place to get a Laptop at ?

[theonetruewill]

Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

So where is best place to get a Laptop at ?

Try toshiba.com
laptopdirect
try the fujitsu's they're cheap
acershop.com
asuslaptop.com
Basically the other big names in computers apart from dell.
I really don't like dell's sorry, but I think they misguide the consumer and overprice laptops.

Ooooo, try gateway they're good and very customizable but a lot cheaper than dell. I've got 3 gateways i(+ 1 old one as in 8 yrs old, lol)n my house, Very fast and very good. IN the Uk Gadgetshow (on TV) they beat out laptops that were £200-300 more expensive than them in terms of performance and battery ife, and obviouly cost.
sorry if these are uk only links but they often redirect me, and there ain't anything I can do about it. grrr

[theonetruewill]

Yeah I csutomzed a great Gateway just now, get one of them. Plus one of the best customer services I'be ever had ever! (possibly UK good only) Lets put it this way 24 hour support. 2am Oh shit my computer (old one has died) ring aghhhh what do I do
They took me through everything and asked me if I wanted them to call me back so I didn't have to suffer the hour long phone bill. Brillant service.

Also my computer was 6.5 years old at this point and they knew the model right down to the possible quirks and eccentricities, lol

They've also helped out twice since then, and 4 times before and instructed my MOTHER through , with confidence! My mother finds washing machines hard to understand, let alone computers. And they only went wrong because ...I may have possibly, maybe a tiny weeny bit screwed them up when I changed some things. But I was young and naive,lol

[kwchang007]

Originally Posted by theonetruewill

Well, you could just see what happens if you don't have tht fan. So it get a bit hotter, just make sure you've got an external cooler and it'll probably be fine

hehehehe, when i run into alot of money i'll start selling e1505 with 7900 gs's

[DOM]

well tryed Gateway and which do you think would be a better choice from the two

[theonetruewill]

I know its a bit more expensive, but the slightly bigger one (right picture) has the more bang-per-buck. The 7200rpm HDD will give it a real edge over the 5400rpm and the gfx also gives it a massive 3d gaming boost. My HDD speed makes 2D performance a bit slow comapred to other higher rpm laptops so I really advise on that. The performance difference of the 7600gs compared to the 7900gs is more so, even than in desktops.
Plus if you get the 7900gs and better HDD I garauntee you you'll play the odd game on it even though your desktop is superior.

However the other is by no means bad. But you see why I prefer these to Dells.

[DOM]

Originally Posted by theonetruewill

I know its a bit more expensive, but the slightly bigger one (right picture) has the more bang-per-buck. The 7200rpm HDD will give it a real edge over the 5400rpm and the gfx also gives it a massive 3d gaming boost. My HDD speed makes 2D performance a bit slow comapred to other higher rpm laptops so I really advise on that. The performance difference of the 7600gs compared to the 7900gs is more so, even than in desktops.
Plus if you get the 7900gs and better HDD I garauntee you you'll play the odd game on it even though your desktop is superior.

However the other is by no means bad. But you see why I prefer these to Dells.

well I tryed dell and I think I got a better deal then gateway


Inspiron E1705: $$1,997

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7200 (2.00GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 667 MHz FSB)

Operating System (Office software not included):
FREE Upgrade to Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium with 1GB of memory

LCD Panel:
17 inch Wide Screen XGA+ Display 17XGAL

Memory:
2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz

Hard Drive:
100GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive 100GB72

Combo or DVD+RW Drive:
8x CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability


Video Card:
256MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 7900 GS

Sound Options:
Integrated Audio IS

Network Card:
Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem

Adobe Software:
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0 ADOBER


Miscellaneous:
Award Winning Service and Support


Processor Branding:
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor

Labels:
Windows Vista™ Premium

Primary Battery:
80 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery

Wireless Networking Cards:
Dell Wireless 1390b/g (54Mbps)

Office Software:
No productivity suite- Includes Microsoft Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD

Anti-Virus/Security Suite (Pre-installed):
McAfee SecurityCenter with VirusScan, Firewall, Spyware Removal, 15-months

Dell Digital Entertainment:
Trial pack- Basic and trial products from Corel and Yahoo

Warranty and Service:
3Yr Ltd Warranty and At-Home Service

Dell On Call:
Dell On Call, 30day, Getting started Assistance, unlimited incidents


Internet Access Service:
6 Months of America Online Membership Included

[kwchang007]

Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

well tryed Gateway and which do you think would be a better choice from the two

defiantly the one on the right, just going by the graphics, it wins. if you are willing to spend that much money, you may want to try looking around at other companies like toshiba, i think for around the same money you can get a 7900gtx, but if those two are really the defiantly the one with the 7900gs.

[DOM]

Originally Posted by kwchang007

defiantly the one on the right, just going by the graphics, it wins. if you are willing to spend that much money, you may want to try looking around at other companies like toshiba, i think for around the same money you can get a 7900gtx, but if those two are really the defiantly the one with the 7900gs.

what about the dell its cost less and I can get another batt for just for $79 more

[kwchang007]

Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

what about the dell its cost less and I can get another batt for just for $79 more

yeah, the dell is quite a bit cheaper. now im just wondering, would you need this more for portability, or as a gaming laptop, because imo 17" is just too big for a laptop to be portable, 15.4" is already getting on the big side.