Project WaterFall -- A water cooling project log by Phenom - Page 10

manofthem · Nov 4, 2012, 05:40 PM

Plus wih a thick rad you should be able to slow the fans down too, cutting down on noise. I have 3 GT14s (1450rpm) on my XTX360 (64mm thick), and it does pretty well. The other day I only had the fans on that rad going (had the 3 GT14s on my xspc ex360 off) while playing BF3. Both 7970s at 1050/1500 and my CPU @4.5, and the cards only hit 44/45*. I know the only rad may have helped a little but still, I think the thick rads work out nicely, given you have enough space

MxPhenom 216 · Nov 4, 2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by manofthem

Plus wih a thick rad you should be able to slow the fans down too, cutting down on noise. I have 3 GT14s (1450rpm) on my XTX360 (64mm thick), and it does pretty well. The other day I only had the fans on that rad going (had the 3 GT14s on my xspc ex360 off) while playing BF3. Both 7970s at 1050/1500 and my CPU @4.5, and the cards only hit 44/45*. I know the only rad may have helped a little but still, I think the thick rads work out nicely, given you have enough space

Yeah, I probably won't have the top on my case when I get a thick rad, If I do I will cut out a big rectangle out of the mesh for the rad to stick out of.

Delta6326 · Nov 4, 2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

coming up next!

Individual sleeved PSU with Paracord!

http://ftwpc.com/cables-and-sleeving...-paracord.html

I have been looking at doing Paracord, and I have been reading about FTW PC I hear is very slow now and may be stopping bossiness I may buy from this top site, they maybe the supplier to FTW PC and its cheaper.

http://www.supplycaptain.com/index.c...3&ParentCat=19

http://www.supplycaptain.com/index.c...4&ParentCat=19

MxPhenom 216 · Nov 4, 2012, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta6326

I have been looking at doing Paracord, and I have been reading about FTW PC I hear is very slow now and may be stopping bossiness I may buy from this top site, they maybe the supplier to FTW PC and its cheaper.

http://www.supplycaptain.com/index.c...3&ParentCat=19

http://www.supplycaptain.com/index.c...4&ParentCat=19

thanks, for that information. yeah paracord is fricking sweet! Ill probably wait till i get a platnium all modular PSU. Which will be next year I think.

Black and Royal blue would be sweet!

Delta6326 · Nov 5, 2012, 12:26 AM

I just realized I'm not for sure if that paracord is the right thickness or not...

james888 · Nov 5, 2012, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MT Alex

I'm sure that will make James888 all creamy.

Make it on 80mm thick monsta and I just might... I am pretty set on the 120x80mm for the bottom front though. 80mm thick is just... YES! I am open to suggestions. If I could find a denser rad that isn't as thick I would definitely look into it. I am still slowing planning and browsing rads. I am currently looking at the ek rads. They are thick and have 11fpi compared to 9.6 in the alphacools. The price is so much more than the alphacools though.

MxPhenom 216 · Nov 5, 2012, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by james888

Make it on 80mm thick monsta and I just might... I am pretty set on the 120x80mm for the bottom front though. 80mm thick is just... YES! I am open to suggestions. If I could find a denser rad that isn't as thick I would definitely look into it. I am still slowing planning and browsing rads. I am currently looking at the ek rads. They are thick and have 11fpi compared to 9.6 in the alphacools. The price is so much more than the alphacools though.

EK rads are trash! Pretty restrictive from what ive been reading. I dont care how well the 80mm monsta rad cools, its just too big.

james888 · Nov 5, 2012, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

80mm monsta rad cools, its just too big.

So many jokes could be made off that... but... I can fit the 120mm so I will. I can't fit a 240 there without taking out my bottom 5.25 bay so... 80mm monsta it is. Combined with 2 38mm panaflo fans.

Thanks for the info on EK rads. Removing them from my thoughts as an option... now.

MxPhenom 216 · Nov 5, 2012, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by james888

So many jokes could be made off that... but... I can fit the 120mm so I will. I can't fit a 240 there without taking out my bottom 5.25 bay so... 80mm monsta it is. Combined with 2 38mm panaflo fans.

Thanks for the info on EK rads. Removing them from my thoughts as an option... now.

For the Monsta you dont need huge loud fans like that. the Fins are spread out you only need fans that do 1400rpm or lower.

MT Alex · Nov 5, 2012, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

For the Monsta you dont need huge loud fans like that. the Fins are spread out you only need fans that do 1400rpm or lower.

james888 · Nov 5, 2012, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

For the Monsta you dont need huge loud fans like that. the Fins are spread out you only need fans that do 1400rpm or lower.

I don't want thread jack this towards me here but. I got the 38mm fans for cheap and why not use them on the monsta? The monsta does have a lower fin count but does much much better with higher rpm just because it is so thick. I have literally spent a few hours of my life reading anything the internet has to say about this 80mm rad alone, not to mention other stuff. It peforms much better at 1800rpm than 1400rpm. It is just sooo thick it needs that extra oomph to make it through the rad. If you have enough fans for the monsta, it really shines or so I have read.

HammerON · Nov 5, 2012, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

EK rads are trash! Pretty restrictive from what ive been reading. I dont care how well the 80mm monsta rad cools, its just too big.

Good review here:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...p-16-rads.html

I actually have a couple Swiftech rads (2x120 and a 3x120), Feser Monsta Lite 3x140 and a Koolance 4x120 that I have used in different rigs over the years. I recently purchased the EK XTX 360 just to try something else based on this review. Will be working on the build hopefully next week. Was going to use the Monsta rad, however it wouldn't fit in the 800D (great rad though).
Still have all of the other rads for backup...

manofthem · Nov 5, 2012, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HammerON

Good review here:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...p-16-rads.html

I actually have a couple Swiftech rads (2x120 and a 3x129), Fezer Monsta 3x140 and a Koolance 4x120 that I have used in different rigs over the years. I recently purchased the EK XTX 360 just to try something else based on this review. Will be working on the build hopefully next week. Was going to use the Monsta rad, however it wouldn't fit in the 800D.
Still have all of the other rads for backup...

I'm running an EK XTX 360 right now, and I have no complaints at all with it. It does a nice job cooling.

cdawall · Nov 5, 2012, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by james888

Make it on 80mm thick monsta and I just might... I am pretty set on the 120x80mm for the bottom front though. 80mm thick is just... YES! I am open to suggestions. If I could find a denser rad that isn't as thick I would definitely look into it. I am still slowing planning and browsing rads. I am currently looking at the ek rads. They are thick and have 11fpi compared to 9.6 in the alphacools. The price is so much more than the alphacools though.

Get a black ice gt stealth 30FPI great performance with high static pressure fans.

Very very thin rads and perform very very well with high static pressure fans.

james888 · Nov 5, 2012, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cdawall

Get a black ice gt stealth 30FPI great performance with high static pressure fans.

http://img.techpowerup.org/121026/20121026_113739.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/121026/20121026_153616.jpg

Very very thin rads and perform very very well with high static pressure fans.

Thank you. Was already looking as some and was about to make a post about them in my thread. Any further discussion involving my future loop or rad suggestions for me I would like to direct to my thread here.

Wrigleyvillain · Nov 5, 2012, 03:43 PM

For the record I am very impressed with my thin Alphacool single 120mm ST30 seeing as how it's, well, thin and a single 120mm.

MxPhenom 216 · Nov 6, 2012, 07:56 PM

New list of parts coming later this month.

AlphaCool NexXxos UT60 240mm rad (This blackice rad sucks. I dont want to run 2500rpm fans that sound like a jet engine to get good temps. This UT60 will be much better as its a lot thicker and its double pass)
another Bitspower 90 degree fitting
5 more feet of tubing

MxPhenom 216 · Nov 16, 2012, 05:32 AM

I think I have chosen on Full tower case to get when I want to add the CPU to the loop, and then have an internally mounted 360 rad.

NZXT Phantom 820 is what I have chosen I think. I love the way it looks. Its simple look, but not as boring looking as the Corsair 700/800D, and some good features, and awesome water cooling capability. Ill stick a Alphacool UT60 360 rad at the top

Wrigleyvillain · Nov 16, 2012, 02:24 PM

Sounds like a plan.

Irony · Nov 17, 2012, 01:13 AM

Awesome, cant wait. I was just looking at that rad, was gonna suggest it since you were considering a bigger case

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manofthem Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: WPB, FL Posts: 3,338 (3.86/day) Thanks: 2,088 Thanked 2,515 Times in 1,277 Posts System Specs	Plus wih a thick rad you should be able to slow the fans down too, cutting down on noise. I have 3 GT14s (1450rpm) on my XTX360 (64mm thick), and it does pretty well. The other day I only had the fans on that rad going (had the 3 GT14s on my xspc ex360 off) while playing BF3. Both 7970s at 1050/1500 and my CPU @4.5, and the cards only hit 44/45. I know the only rad may have helped a little but still, I think the thick rads work out nicely, given you have enough space __________________ My Heatware* "P.S. Why buy from Newegg...when you can buy from Sneeky!" -LiNKiN Last edited by manofthem; Nov 4, 2012 at 05:59 PM.

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MxPhenom 216 Knowledgeable Posting Whore Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,767 (5.79/day) Thanks: 1,281 Thanked 1,082 Times in 835 Posts System Specs	I think I have chosen on Full tower case to get when I want to add the CPU to the loop, and then have an internally mounted 360 rad. NZXT Phantom 820 is what I have chosen I think. I love the way it looks. Its simple look, but not as boring looking as the Corsair 700/800D, and some good features, and awesome water cooling capability. Ill stick a Alphacool UT60 360 rad at the top __________________ Motocross is not just a sport, it's a lifestyle. File Server: Intel Pentium G630, 8GB PNY 1600, AsRock H77M Micro, Corsair CX430M, Vertex 2 90GB (OS), 2x WD Red 2TB in RAID1 “We will never know our full potential, unless we push ourselves to find it. -Travis Rice”

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