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Old Nov 4, 2012, 01:19 AM   #26
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fail. Skyrim is ass on Xbox.
Fair enough but a "budget" system is going to be just as "ass" imho of course
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Old Nov 4, 2012, 01:20 AM   #27
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Good to know. Other thing would be to look at the APU anyway they are good cheap CPU's.

AMD A10-5700 Trinity 3.4GHz (4.0GHz Turbo) Socket ...

ASRock FM2A55M-DGS FM2 AMD A55 (Hudson D2) Micro A...

That's $80's less. A 7950 is about $100 more and comes with 6 games instead of 1

XFX Double D FX-795A-TDFC Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-b...
Yeah, APUs are good stuff. How about a Bulldozer/Piledriver CPU, up the GPU?

For sure - like everyone above said, go for the 8GB of RAM. It's worth it.
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Old Nov 4, 2012, 01:29 AM   #28
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play Skyrim on the highest settings.
There's no mention of what monitor (or more importantly, what resolution) the game will be played at. If it will be running at 1024x768 or 1280x720, then you can probably lower the budget a bit more.
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There's no mention of what monitor (or more importantly, what resolution) the game will be played at. If it will be running at 1024x768 or 1280x720, then you can probably lower the budget a bit more.
Probably - but might want to leave some headroom, just in case they upgrade their monitor.
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Old Nov 4, 2012, 01:31 AM   #30
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Probably - but might want to leave some headroom, just in case they upgrade their monitor.
I am liking the 7950 add on with an APU. Would be one heck of a budget gamer.
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I am liking the 7950 add on with an APU. Would be one heck of a budget gamer.
Yeah - for sure. And - 6 (that's amazing) free games!
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Old Nov 4, 2012, 01:37 AM   #32
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Yeah - for sure. And - 6 (that's amazing) free games!
Dirt 3, TwoWorlds, FarCry 3, Sleeping Dogs, Hitman, and MoH Warfighter. It really isn't that bad of a package.
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Old Nov 4, 2012, 02:29 AM   #33
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I am liking the 7950 add on with an APU. Would be one heck of a budget gamer.


LOL Radeon 6670. I reviewed it and it is pretty damn good for a $600 rin and the CPU would be far better than the i3 they have listed. heck, if I were him, i would do a AMD A10-5800 with the 660Ti. That would be better than that crap i3 they listed. I reviewed the A8-5800 against it and it is an all around better CPU.

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As seen today, Trinity brings two worlds together with Fusion and Piledriver. AMD focused on the instruction set since Bulldozer’s release and suprisingly, they bring a much more rounded APU (Acccelerated Processing Unit) to the table. From performance to efficiency, AMD has manufactured a very good mainstream processing unit coupled with on-die 7660D graphics.

Comparing the A10-5800K with Intel’s IvyBridge i3 3220K shows AMD with a solid win over their rival. We compared out of box performance between the A10-5800K and the i3 3220 and AMD dominated, primarily in graphics. AMD’s 7660D on-die GPU is far superior to Intel’s 4000 graphics. In every benchmark, the 7660D crushes Intel. In proocessor performance, the A10-8150 trades blows with Intel’s 3220. With AMD’s hard work, they figured how to improve on Bulldozer with their newPiledriver cores. If the trend continues, Steamroller should improve on Piledriver, and although it may not beat IvyBridge’s top tier processors, it brings AMD into this decade. Although we were skeptical, Trinity lived up to it’s billing in our opinion.

AMD’s strategy continues to pursue the mainstream market and the mobile sector which some thought, did not make sense. Let’s face it, margins are just not the same as the high end arena but then again, AMD has a product that may surprise the skeptics. Dissecting target customers, we see excellent potential for OEM manufacturers. Looking at our viewers (who usually build their own systems), we see the A10-5800K going into second systems more often and for some, a primary system for family members or folks on a budget. The APU can be laid out three ways: stand alone 7660D, crossfire 7660D + add on 6670, or a higher end discrete graphics card add-on. This gives our viewers a system priced as low as $400, or a step up system in crossfire at the $500-$600 range, or a respectable all around build at approximately $700. Any way you cut it, the A10-5800K will not break the bank and gives you options. Either way, looking on the cheap or spending a bit more, the A10-5800K shows that it will handle eveyday home computing and will be excelllent for what mainstreme users seek. For You Tube, videos and movies, and even some light gaming Trinity has what it takes. Can you say HTPC (Home Theater Personal Computer)? This could be the perfect fit.

In conclusion, the AMD A10-5800K may not be the juggernaut performance junkies look for, but it provides an excellent all around computing solution for many. At just $122, it is less than the $140 price tag of its predecessor, the A8-3870K, while performing better. If you’re looking for an inexpensive solution for home computing, the AMD A10-5800K should be a serious consideration
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The rig looks fine to me for Skyrim.
If you are coaxed enough into buying an AMD GPU, be aware that you may encounter flickers and black polys on occasion with the current drivers.
None the less Skyrm should run like butter on either the GTX650 or the HD7850.
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The rig looks fine to me for Skyrim.
If you are coaxed enough into buying an AMD GPU, be aware that you may encounter flickers and black polys on occasion with the current drivers.
None the less Skyrm should run like butter on either the GTX650 or the HD7850.
Dont worry cdawall put in a 7950, for those extra frames.
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Old Nov 4, 2012, 03:58 AM   #36
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the Intel CPU also helps in Skryim if you push mods to the limit, Shadow rendering is handled by the CPU in Skyrim and its single threaded, so the intel chips have a severe advantage when pushing IQ to the LIMIT, for the every day regular mods such as textures armors blah blah the APU cpu will do the job fine.

Skyrim hell any game from Bethesda using their rebranded Gamebryo engine etc tends to favor Intel CPUs and fast GPUs, aka it prefers the brute force approach.
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Old Nov 4, 2012, 03:55 PM   #37
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If you don't mind waiting on a rebate there is also this powersupply for a couple bucks less.

CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 P...

Obviously its a Corsair and a good reliable unit.

Between that and the cheaper board it pays for the ram/7870 price difference (just about )
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Yeah, APUs are good stuff. How about a Bulldozer/Piledriver CPU, up the GPU?

For sure - like everyone above said, go for the 8GB of RAM. It's worth it.
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So basically, go with AMD or Intel? Because both builds seem nice.
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I would go AMD the game should appreciate more video card.
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I would go AMD the game should appreciate more video card.
Either would be a good choice but my theory is AMD is a great all around solution and I don't think you should base the decision totally on Skyrim but Crazyeyes is right, intel will do a little better in singlethreaded apps and AMD better in Multi-Threaded and I would say look down the line when making the decision. I will say it is nice to have AMD somewhat back in the game.
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Either would be a good choice but my theory is AMD is a great all around solution and I don't think you should base the decision totally on Skyrim but Crazyeyes is right, intel will do a little better in singlethreaded apps and AMD better in Multi-Threaded and I would say look down the line when making the decision. I will say it is nice to have AMD somewhat back in the game.
Hear hear.
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yea AMD is fine,

for games like

Shogun 2
Skyrim / Fallout / etc etc Bethesda / Gamebryo games
Civilization V
Blizzard Titles

Intel rules the roost and i dont mean by small margins

just about everything else however it just doesnt matter much what you go with sadly for me personally most of the games i play above fall on that short list that intel tends to dominate in.

but in this case going with a cheaper AMD system and pushing the GPU up a notch will give you better overall game performance.
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Low end i5+low end mobo+8gb kit+7870/50=profit
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I have one more option for you since you don't really need an APU you could go with a higher clocked better performing FX series chip along with a better motherboard.

Take another $15 off of this using promo code EMCJNGN27

AMD FX-4170 Zambezi 4.2GHz

ASRock 970 PRO3 AM3+ AMD 970

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wow i would sell all those games...

$15 Dirt 3
$10 Two Worlds II
$35 Far Cry 3
$30 Sleeping Dogs
$35 Hitman Absolution

so $125 if games are sold give or take

that means $665 (rounding it off here)
665 - 125 = 540 -50 MIR = $490 - $15 promo code = $475 in the end give or take if you do all the leg work
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wow i would sell all those games...

$15 Dirt 3
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$35 Far Cry 3
$30 Sleeping Dogs
$35 Hitman Absolution

so $125 if games are sold give or take

that means $665 (rounding it off here)
665 - 125 = 540 -50 MIR = $490 - $15 promo code = $475 in the end give or take if you do all the leg work
-$15=460 for the promo code that's not included
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added in the promo ^ lol its $475 give or take a dollar unless you have 2x promo codes your talking about and their both $15?
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added in the promo ^ lol its $475 give or take a dollar unless you have 2x promo codes your talking about and their both $15?
Nope must of mis-skimmed
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Thanks for the advice, AMD it is.

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