Samsung 840 Series 500GB OR RAID 250GB?

Live OR Die · Nov 7, 2012, 12:17 PM

I'm looking at getting these drives and was just wondering what would be the better path to take ? thanks

3870x2 · Nov 7, 2012, 12:26 PM

It depends do you want speed or reliability? The size will be the same.

I recommend the RAID, and backing up important files to an online service.

Live OR Die · Nov 7, 2012, 12:51 PM

Well im running RAID now ill ether do one of the two, I normally only keep windows on my SSDs and files on my HDDs.

1. Get a 500GB Samsung 840 and a Western Digital VelociRaptor 1TB

2. Get 2 x 250 Samsung 840 and keep my Raptors i have

TheOne · Nov 7, 2012, 01:46 PM

I would suggest going with the Pro Series 256GB/512GB, the standard 840 uses TLC NAND which is supposed to have a shorter life and be slower than MLC and SLC NAND.

Live OR Die · Nov 7, 2012, 02:11 PM

From the reviews they say the 840 pro is the better drive to buy.

3870x2 · Nov 7, 2012, 02:17 PM

Ill have to go with TheOne on this. There is a reason the majority of manufacturers use MLC instead of TLC.

If you want to read more, this is a very good link
http://www.centon.com/flash-products/chiptype

TLC is cheaper for more storage, but is slower and half the life expectancy.

Live OR Die · Nov 7, 2012, 11:26 PM

the Samsung SSD 840 and the 840 Pro. The former is the first productized consumer SSD to use Samsung's 21nm 3-bit-per-cell MLC (aka TLC) NAND, while the latter is Samsung's new flagship drive using 21nm 2bpc MLC NAND.

Unfortunately we don't have samples of the unique TLC SSD 840, just the MLC 840 Pro. Despite the use of TLC NAND, Samsung claims the vanilla 840 should offer similar performance to the current 830. Samsung also claims that endurance should be reasonable for consumer workloads.

TheOne · Nov 8, 2012, 04:14 AM

Personally I would go with either the 830 or 840 Pro Series, if Samsung claims there is no real performance difference between an 830 and 840, and the 830 should have a longer life, then I see no reason to really bother looking at the 840 unless they are significantly cheaper than the 830.

Live OR Die · Nov 8, 2012, 08:31 AM

The 840 pro out performs the 830 pro though.

TheOne · Nov 8, 2012, 11:11 AM

I'm just saying ignore the 840 and focus on the 830 and 840 Pro Series, the 840 Pro Series is still new and little stock and the price is still high, atleast here anyway, but it would be the better drive.

Live OR Die · Nov 8, 2012, 11:15 AM

Yep ill wait till the pro Series come available thanks.

t77snapshot · Nov 8, 2012, 11:31 AM

Fyi: the 840 pro 256Gb just went on sale at the EGG.

Live OR Die · Nov 8, 2012, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t77snapshot

Fyi: the 840 pro 256Gb just went on sale at the EGG.

Sucks to live in Aus

manofthem · Nov 8, 2012, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t77snapshot

Fyi: the 840 pro 256Gb just went on sale at the EGG.

I saw that in Newegg's email. Now we just need the price to come down a little bit, and I'll be a happy camper

TheLaughingMan · Nov 8, 2012, 01:00 PM

I vote for the SSD/HDD option. Number 1

3870x2 · Nov 8, 2012, 01:10 PM

The 840 Pro comes with assassins creed III.

Konceptz · Nov 15, 2012, 02:18 PM

I'd go for Raid, Intel RST supports TRIM on Raid 0...only con to running an AMD system IMO

Nov 7, 2012, 12:17 PM	#1
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Nov 7, 2012, 12:26 PM	#2
3870x2 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Joplin, Mo Posts: 4,543 (2.38/day) Thanks: 175 Thanked 691 Times in 557 Posts System Specs	It depends do you want speed or reliability? The size will be the same. I recommend the RAID, and backing up important files to an online service. __________________ A+, N+, S+, MCSE. Heatware STEAM ID Name: furi0nst0rmrage (0s are zeros) M O D E R N\|\|W A R F A R E \|\| 2 \|\| CLUBHOUSE // TEAM “The amount exaltation of the processor cores can brings amazing floating” -sparkle Last edited by 3870x2; Nov 7, 2012 at 12:35 PM.

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:51 PM	#3
Live OR Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: Perth-Westen Australia Posts: 3,383 (1.54/day) Thanks: 436 Thanked 315 Times in 256 Posts System Specs	Well im running RAID now ill ether do one of the two, I normally only keep windows on my SSDs and files on my HDDs. 1. Get a 500GB Samsung 840 and a Western Digital VelociRaptor 1TB 2. Get 2 x 250 Samsung 840 and keep my Raptors i have

Nov 7, 2012, 01:46 PM	#4
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Nov 7, 2012, 02:11 PM	#5
Live OR Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: Perth-Westen Australia Posts: 3,383 (1.54/day) Thanks: 436 Thanked 315 Times in 256 Posts System Specs	From the reviews they say the 840 pro is the better drive to buy.

Nov 7, 2012, 02:17 PM	#6
3870x2 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Joplin, Mo Posts: 4,543 (2.38/day) Thanks: 175 Thanked 691 Times in 557 Posts System Specs	Ill have to go with TheOne on this. There is a reason the majority of manufacturers use MLC instead of TLC. If you want to read more, this is a very good link http://www.centon.com/flash-products/chiptype TLC is cheaper for more storage, but is slower and half the life expectancy. __________________ A+, N+, S+, MCSE. Heatware STEAM ID Name: furi0nst0rmrage (0s are zeros) M O D E R N\|\|W A R F A R E \|\| 2 \|\| CLUBHOUSE // TEAM “The amount exaltation of the processor cores can brings amazing floating” -sparkle

Nov 7, 2012, 11:26 PM	#7
Live OR Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: Perth-Westen Australia Posts: 3,383 (1.54/day) Thanks: 436 Thanked 315 Times in 256 Posts System Specs	the Samsung SSD 840 and the 840 Pro. The former is the first productized consumer SSD to use Samsung's 21nm 3-bit-per-cell MLC (aka TLC) NAND, while the latter is Samsung's new flagship drive using 21nm 2bpc MLC NAND. Unfortunately we don't have samples of the unique TLC SSD 840, just the MLC 840 Pro. Despite the use of TLC NAND, Samsung claims the vanilla 840 should offer similar performance to the current 830. Samsung also claims that endurance should be reasonable for consumer workloads.

Nov 8, 2012, 04:14 AM	#8
TheOne Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 210 (0.18/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 64 Times in 50 Posts System Specs	Personally I would go with either the 830 or 840 Pro Series, if Samsung claims there is no real performance difference between an 830 and 840, and the 830 should have a longer life, then I see no reason to really bother looking at the 840 unless they are significantly cheaper than the 830.

Nov 8, 2012, 08:31 AM	#9
Live OR Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: Perth-Westen Australia Posts: 3,383 (1.54/day) Thanks: 436 Thanked 315 Times in 256 Posts System Specs	The 840 pro out performs the 830 pro though.

Nov 8, 2012, 11:11 AM	#10
TheOne Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 210 (0.18/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 64 Times in 50 Posts System Specs	I'm just saying ignore the 840 and focus on the 830 and 840 Pro Series, the 840 Pro Series is still new and little stock and the price is still high, atleast here anyway, but it would be the better drive.

Nov 8, 2012, 11:15 AM	#11
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