New Performance/Gaming Computer Build, budget ~$1500 give or take

[Sasqui]

Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

Update: wow, talk about Significantly increasing the price!! just 1866 is more than twice the cost, and 2400 is over 4 times the cost!
I think I'll stick with the 1600 for now and later I can upgrade if desired. Rather spend that extra amount on a SSD than RAM.

2133 Cas 11 (not that great) for $34 right now with promo code: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 S...

I Bought 2 of these 2133 Cas 9 for $53 each when they had a special running: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 S...

[vawrvawerawe]

Originally Posted by Sasqui

2133 Cas 11 (not that great) for $34 right now with promo code: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 S...

I Bought 2 of these 2133 Cas 9 for $53 each when they had a special running: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 S...

I want minimum of 16GB. This means for 1600 I can get 16GB for $60, or for that one 2133 I can get 16GB for $90. Rather not pay 33% for for a minor increase.
Actually, that might be a good deal except I want 2x8GB so I can have 32GB later.

[Irony]

I've got that gskill RAM you're wanting, Definitely recommend. It overclocks fairly well too if you're interested in that. Also 16gb is quite enough.

I would also say to save the 100 bucks, and pick up the 3570k and put it into graphics and/or case. Unless you're really convinced that the multithreading will be that important to you. If you'll be doing mostly gaming 3570k is throughly sufficient.

[Sasqui]

Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

Actually, that might be a good deal except I want 2x8GB so I can have 32GB later.

Yea, that makes sense.

[vawrvawerawe]

Originally Posted by Irony

I've got that gskill RAM you're wanting, Definitely recommend. It overclocks fairly well too if you're interested in that. Also 16gb is quite enough.

I would also say to save the 100 bucks, and pick up the 3570k and put it into graphics and/or case. Unless you're really convinced that the multithreading will be that important too you. If you'll be doing mostly gaming 3570k is throughly sufficient.

I can't pick it up because I think the nearest MicroCenter is like 1000 miles away. How much for the ram and specs?

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Ok, so far, for:

Motherboard
PSU
Case
RAM
DVD Drive
_________

$326.93 [minus] $35MIR = $291.93
(unless Irony gives me a better deal on RAM)


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Left to get after I click BUY:

HDD
CPU
GPU
WIFI Card

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I got to go, I will be back in an hour to finalize the current sale.

[Irony]

Oh, sorry man, I wasn't saying I had it to sell; I was just testifying that its great RAM and that I have it in my rig. I guess that did sound a bit misleading, lol.

[vawrvawerawe]

Okay guys, I am back, ready to finish this up for the night

Originally Posted by Irony

Oh, sorry man, I wasn't saying I had it to sell; I was just testifying that its great RAM and that I have it in my rig. I guess that did sound a bit misleading, lol.

No problem buddy, I am perfectly happy with the current price.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

Graphics and extreme multitasking. 8320 was my orignal choice. Other have convinced me to do the Intel build.

Well for the money you save going with an 8320 and 970 series board to get 16GB of ram and a 7950. Beats the i5 build on both accounts night and day. Multitasking is the 8 core FX series bread and butter, better video card means better gaming. Were do you think the i5 performs better in those scenarios?

[vawrvawerawe]

Originally Posted by cdawall

Well for the money you save going with an 8320 and 970 series board to get 16GB of ram and a 7950. Beats the i5 build on both accounts night and day. Multitasking is the 8 core FX series bread and butter, better video card means better gaming. Were do you think the i5 performs better in those scenarios?

Yes but it does not even come close to the i7 2770K and especially not the 3770K.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

Yes but it does not even come close to the i7 2770K and especially not the 3770K.

WTF is a 2770K. It beats the 2600K pretty handily in multitasking and the 3770K in quite a few things as well. Considering it is more than double the price that is embarrassing.

$549.99 without the rebate and with the 7950 add another 16GB of ram to it if you want or bump to the FX 8350 heck order a water cooler. Your choice all of them are STILL cheaper than the 3570K/3770K combo with a 7870.

[vawrvawerawe]

Originally Posted by cdawall

WTF is a 2770K. It beats the 2600K pretty handily in multitasking and the 3770K in quite a few things as well. Considering it is more than double the price that is embarrassing.

2700K I meant. But 3770K is the same price.
Also it is almost double the performance in most areas in the benchmark at http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/698?vs=551.[/B]

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I just finished purchasing:
Motherboard
PSU
DVD Drive

The RAM is SOLD OUT
Was only a savings of $5 though.

By the way, they require you to buy each one individually because of all the coupon codes. So you have to do a bunch of different purchases, not just add it all to your cart.

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Ok so I think I'm coming to the final question.

I need to know how the graphics card and PSU will fit in the case.
I am seriously considering the COOLER MASTER HAF 912 case.


* The 912 case is 19.5" in depth.
* The Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 is 10.24" in length.
* The 750W PSU is 6.3" in length.

Will I have to remove the 3.5" HDD cage to fit that graphics card, or can I leave it in?
I'm going to guess that the 3.5" HDD cage is about 4.5" across, considering that 3.5" HDD are 4.01" in width.

19.5" - 7.5" = 12" space for PCIe

If this is right, then there should be enough space for the graphics card without removing the 3.5" HDD cage.

Will I have to remove the 2.5" HDD cage to fit the PSU?
I'm going to guess that the 2.5" HDD cage is 3" across, considering that the width of a 2.5" HDD is 2.75" width.

4.5" + 3" = 7.5" space HDD cages take up before PSU space
19.5" - 7.5" = ~12.5" space for PSU

If this is right, then there should be plenty of space for the PSU without removing the 2.5" HDD cage.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

2700K I meant. But 3770K is the same price.
Also it is almost double the performance in some areas, and other areas much more than double the performance of the 8320.

In what super pi? I have read quite a few reviews and minus the absolutely terrible one available from [H] no one has shown that. I would also like you to link me to a gaming benchmark were the FX 8320 with a 7950 is outperformed by an i5/i7 with a 7870.

Good luck with the build I doubt you will disappointed just find it odd for what you are specifically doing you went with the weaker chip for you.

Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

By the way, they require you to buy each one individually because of all the coupon codes. So you have to do a bunch of different purchases, not just add it all to your cart.

Wrong

[Irony]

It should all work out fine. I have a friend with a 7950 in a haf 912, fits fine.

Hey, might you be interested in a haf 922? I've got one I could sell you.


Edit: idk if you're in love with the corsair psu but OCZ 700 is a few bucks cheaper, and modular too; which is a big plus in a small case.
OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W Modular High Performance P...

[erocker]

Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

The 912 case is 19.5" in depth.
The SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7870 is 10.24" in length.
The 750W PSU is 6.3" in length.

Will I have to remove the 3.5" HDD cage to fit that graphics card, or can I leave it in?
I'm going to guess that the HDD cage is about 4.5" across, considering that 3.5" HDD are 4.01" in width.

Will I have to remove the 2.5" HDD cage to fit the PSU?
I'm going to guess that the 2.5" HDD cage is 3" across, considering that the width of a 2.5" HDD is 2.75" width

Graphics card and PSU will fit in that case with no problem. Nothing will have to be removed.

[vawrvawerawe]

Originally Posted by cdawall

In what super pi? I have read quite a few reviews and minus the absolutely terrible one available from [H] no one has shown that. I would also like you to link me to a gaming benchmark were the FX 8320 with a 7950 is outperformed by an i5/i7 with a 7870.

Good luck with the build I doubt you will disappointed just find it odd for what you are specifically doing you went with the weaker chip for you.

http://img.techpowerup.org/121111/Capture032.jpg

Regarding the simultaneous purchasing:
It didn't show any errors until I was at the final page after authorizing paypal. It erased all my coupons without telling me (except for error for the coupon codes at top of page). I almost paid an extra $100. Good thing I was paying attention.

Regarding the benchmarks:
I was wrong, it's not double, but it is almost double the performance on almost everything.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/698?vs=551

Originally Posted by Irony

It should all work out fine. I have a friend with a 7950 in a haf 912, fits fine.

Hey, might you be interested in a haf 922? I've got one I could sell you

Excellent.
Yes, I might be interested! How much?

Originally Posted by erocker

Graphics card and PSU will fit in that case with no problem. Nothing will have to be removed.

Excellent, thank you!

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/698?vs=551

Regarding the simultaneous purchasing:
It didn't show any errors until I was at the final page after authorizing paypal. It erased all my coupons without telling me (except for error for the coupon codes at top of page). I almost paid an extra $100. Good thing I was paying attention.

Very interesting I have ordered multiple discounts on many many occasions.

Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

Regarding the benchmarks:
I was wrong, it's not double, but it is almost double the performance on almost everything.

read again

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[vawrvawerawe]

Originally Posted by cdawall

Very interesting I have ordered multiple discounts on many many occasions.



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hmm, I don't know what to believe. But I have already bought the intel motherboard so it's too late to go back.

[vawrvawerawe]

Originally Posted by Irony

It should all work out fine. I have a friend with a 7950 in a haf 912, fits fine.

Hey, might you be interested in a haf 922? I've got one I could sell you.


Edit: idk if you're in love with the corsair psu but OCZ 700 is a few bucks cheaper, and modular too; which is a big plus in a small case.
OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W Modular High Performance P...

Yes, I am interested in the 922. How much are you selling it for?

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

hmm, I don't know what to believe. But I have already bought the intel motherboard so it's too late to go back.

Which did you even go with you keep linking the 3770K for everything and mentioning the 3570K. Oh and your own link lists 1 benchmark that the 3770K ($319.99) beats the 8320 ($179.99) almost double and that is single threaded cinebench which is a pretty worthless benchmark.

There is a cancel button for your orders.

[Irony]

Was asking about 75 for it; free shipping

[vawrvawerawe]

Originally Posted by cdawall

Which did you even go with you keep linking the 3770K for everything and mentioning the 3570K.

I never wanted the 3570. I wanted the 3770K.

Originally Posted by Irony

Was asking about 75 for it; free shipping

Let me think... what is the condition? Pics?

Originally Posted by cdawall

Which did you even go with you keep linking the 3770K for everything and mentioning the 3570K. Oh and your own link lists 1 benchmark that the 3770K ($319.99) beats the 8320 ($179.99) almost double and that is single threaded cinebench which is a pretty worthless benchmark.

There is a cancel button for your orders.

Originally I was going to do the AMD build.
But, people convinced me that I should do the Intel build.

If you can provide some more compelling evidence that I should get the AMD build, then I am open to changing over. It's part of the reason I made several builds, one AMD and one Intel.

Moreover, I would be really happy to save $100 or $200 (by getting the AMD build instead) and have the same or better performance.

[Irony]

Its in good condition. I'll take some pics here in a minute.

[vawrvawerawe]

Originally Posted by Irony

Its in good condition. I'll take some pics here in a minute.

Great, I'll be waiting

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

Originally I was going to do the AMD build.
But, people convinced me that I should do the Intel build.

If you can provide some more compelling evidence that I should get the AMD build, then I am open to changing over. It's part of the reason I made several builds, one AMD and one Intel.

See the 7950 a couple bars down that's the price difference.

[vawrvawerawe]

Originally Posted by cdawall

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Sapphire/H...es/perfrel.gif

See the 7950 a couple bars down that's the price difference.

I know the price difference for the Graphics card is certainly the reason why I am choosing AMD/ATI instead of NVIDIA. We are definitely on the same page there.
p.s. the 660ti or 7950 is 17% more ($50) than the 7850; but according to that chart, only provides 9% more performance increase.

But the question here is about the Motherboard/Processor. You're suggesting for me to click cancel on the Intel motherboard and get AMD motherboard instead and go with 8320 8-core AMD processor.