AMD Looking for a Buyer? - Page 3

Frick · Nov 14, 2012, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by trickson

Okay I know I am a stupid idiot and all, But I do not know what ARM stands for.

Yes you are, but nevermind. ARM is the CPU's in phones. (simplification)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture

eidairaman1 · Nov 14, 2012, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Frick

Yes you are, but nevermind. ARM is the CPU's in phones. (simplification)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture

Crazy how DEC had a standing with ARM at the time (StrongARM)

drdeathx · Nov 14, 2012, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Ibm does compete in server Market.

But Companies Plausible to buy Amd.

Google
Samsung
Motorola
DEC/Alpha
TI
IBM

You forgot the US Government!

cdawall · Nov 14, 2012, 06:08 AM

Everyone does understand AMD is "to big to fail" Intel will bail them out before they fail remember if Intel takes the only seat as an x86 manufacturer (Via is to small to be considered) they will be called a monopoly and broken up by the US government. It would be way easier for Intel to simply buy the AMD stock and keep the company afloat.

Heck Microsoft did the exact same thing to keep Apple alive in 1997->source

drdeathx · Nov 14, 2012, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

I am talking about AMD going under not a company buying them out. Though I would like to see a company such as Samsung buy AMD. Would sure give Intel a kick in the nuts in terms of competition.

The only reason why Apple would buy out AMD is IMO for the ATI Graphics technology and patents. I also think they would like to stick it to Intel as much as possible too.

WHY? They would increase profits by a bunch. AMD surely offers good pricing to Apple also so they are buying processors from manufacturer(Intel). Owning AMD creates revenue on both sides.

With Apples cash flow, they could surely take AMD mucvh more competative with Intel and maybe better with radeon. look at the entire picture.

Xzibit · Nov 14, 2012, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

You forgot the US Government!

Like they did Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep.

We saved american jobs but we sold 4/5ths of the company to Italians.

Oh and you'll all be getting fired as soon as this contract runs out.

james888 · Nov 14, 2012, 07:06 AM

You guys do know it is really hard to hold a monopoly even if the government did not step in. Intel does not want amd to go down because of certain laws. Monopolistic companies can retain their monopoly power only if they do not fully exploit it; otherwise other companies will enter

de.das.dude · Nov 14, 2012, 08:05 AM

w1zz should buy AMD.

james888 · Nov 14, 2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by de.das.dude

w1zz should buy AMD.

Amd would so would have to change its name to TPU then. I like it.

Prima.Vera · Nov 14, 2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by trickson

I knew it! The end of AMD is near! So many fanboys are now

there eyes out.

Actually you are the BIGGEST fanboy in here. You are just to blind to realize that, hehe!

trickson · Nov 14, 2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cdawall

everyone does understand amd is "to big to fail" intel will bail them out before they fail remember if intel takes the only seat as an x86 manufacturer (via is to small to be considered) they will be called a monopoly and broken up by the us government. It would be way easier for intel to simply buy the amd stock and keep the company afloat.

Heck microsoft did the exact same thing to keep apple alive in 1997->source

so well said!

Fluffmeister · Nov 14, 2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by de.das.dude

w1zz should buy AMD.

Better yet nVidia should buy them.

dude12564 · Nov 14, 2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluffmeister

Better yet nVidia should buy them.

That might not happen, it makes nVidia have a monopoly in the GPU industry.

eidairaman1 · Nov 14, 2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dude12564

That might not happen, it makes nVidia have a monopoly in the GPU industry.

eh hed like that actually. just proves he has no balance in life

Fluffmeister · Nov 14, 2012, 11:40 AM

I knew my comment would get a few knickers in a twist.

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Originally Posted by dude12564

That might not happen, it makes nVidia have a monopoly in the GPU industry.

Well Intel are the dominate force when it comes to GPU market share still.

Don't worry guys, I doubt nvidia want to buy them anyway, legacy company and all that.

dude12564 · Nov 14, 2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluffmeister

I knew my comment would get a few knickers in a twist.

Well Intel are the dominate force when it comes to GPU market share still.

Don't worry guys, I doubt nvidia want to buy them anyway, legacy company and all that.

If you're saying Intel dominates in CPU, that makes sense.

If you're saying Intel dominates in GPU, I'm going to assume you're referring to the iGPUs included with all their CPUs.

Frick · Nov 14, 2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dude12564

If you're saying Intel dominates in GPU, I'm going to assume you're referring to the iGPUs included with all their CPUs.

He/she was talking about market share, and Intels IGP's account for the majority of GPU's out there.

eidairaman1 · Nov 14, 2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frick

He/she was talking about market share, and Intels IGP's account for the majority of GPU's out there.

despite how underperforming they are

repman244 · Nov 14, 2012, 11:46 AM

If this really does happen, I would like that it's IBM that buys them. I see a lot of people mentioning MS, but I think they don't know a lot about CPU/GPU manufacturing whereas IBM makes their own chips (IIRC).

eidairaman1 · Nov 14, 2012, 11:46 AM

be an interesting Tidbit if Sun/Oracle gets them

Frick · Nov 14, 2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

be an interesting Tidbit if Sun/Oracle gets them

Funny even.

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

despite how underperforming they are

For most people they are more than enough.

eidairaman1 · Nov 14, 2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frick

Funny even.

EDIT:

For most people they are more than enough.

SPARC64 IXfx

TheMailMan78 · Nov 14, 2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

Actually, perhaps they want to do something so grand, that this is the only way they can have the funds to pull it off, and stay afloat.

I'm pretty sure they'd have no issue finding a real buyer right now. The fact they haven't says that there are caveats to the sale that has some holding back...that gets me excited.

I said before, they need to go down to a staff of about 24...I wasn't kidding. A sale for the right amount would pay off all debt, and then have AMD in the black, and just holding the patents would make a profit.

Their margins are still very strong. A buyer shouldn't be an issue at all. I agree with you on this all the way round.

Morgoth · Nov 14, 2012, 01:53 PM

intel sould buy for amd for ati

intel gpu's

Dent1 · Nov 14, 2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by trickson

How is looking for a buyer failing? You are so deluded if you think that if they sell there will no longer be any AMD CPU's. Man really get a grip. It is not the end of the universe for god sake. Companies buy and sell all the time yet since this is AMD it some how makes them special? What is so special about a business? They are like any other business if they feel that the time is right to sell they will the CEO's will get big fat pay checks and so will the Owner of AMD. Nothing new there.
No you do not have a grip on this at all. You see this as the END and nothing more. The end of the PC industry and the end of technology moving forward. Well my deluded friend you are so wrong.

It's good for the CEO, but not good for the consumers.

If we had Cyrix (RIP), Via, IBM already established in the desktop marketplace still things would be fine. But any new entrence wouldn't survive it's launch date. Intel will just sue them for something tivial and they'll be broke in a few months of fighting lawsuits. With Intel remaining enjoy changing sockets once and paying £500 for a CPU.

Our only hope is an established corporation like Microsoft or Apple go into the desktop processor marketplace or the buyers of AMD are 100% comitted to continuing to strive in the desktop microprocessor business.

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Originally Posted by cdawall

Everyone does understand AMD is "to big to fail" Intel will bail them out before they fail remember if Intel takes the only seat as an x86 manufacturer (Via is to small to be considered) they will be called a monopoly and broken up by the US government. It would be way easier for Intel to simply buy the AMD stock and keep the company afloat.

Heck Microsoft did the exact same thing to keep Apple alive in 1997->source

Microsoft issue was a lot more complex. Microsoft had their hands in more than just the OS pie, they were told to split mainly because they were using their OS to push out competing third party software companies. i.e. Internet browsers, media players, video encoders, word processors etc as many Microsoft biased software was integrated into the OS which was unfair.

The Government would only get involved if Intel started integrating their CPUs into the motherboards and soldiering RAM onto it, that would put all the motherboard and RAM companies out of business. Thus, the Gorvernment would order Intel to play fair or split!

But you are right for different reasons, Intel might bail AMD out to get access to renewing existing licences and patents. Who knows Intel might buy AMD outright and own it - for the sake of the patents.

Also, there is talks of Sony using AMD's APUs on their next generation console. If that is official, Sony might bail AMD out to stop the PS4 sinking.

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