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KingPing · Nov 1, 2012, 10:28 PM

Interesting, the gold ammo is twice as cheap as the ones in the test server. I don't mind paying 2000 for gold ammo for my Jagdtiger, Lowe, Tiger 2, as the silver ammo isn't cheap either, i'll go for a 50/50 balance for now.

agent00skid · Nov 1, 2012, 11:49 PM

Half price for you? That's not fair.

I have 400 credits per gold price. So 2000 per round on my SU 76 and 4000 for my SU 26.

KingPing · Nov 2, 2012, 12:46 AM

The lower the tier is the less it is worth with some exceptions.

Tiger I 88mm L/71

silver ammo 252 per round
gold ammo 2000 per round

Jagdtiger 128mm L/61

silver ammo 1260 per round
gold ammo 2000 per round

with those prices i don't mind using gold ammo with the Jagdtiger, but with the Tiger I or Panther, it's quite expensive, especially with high RoF guns.

agent00skid · Nov 2, 2012, 12:58 AM

No doubt it's only reasonable to use for high tiers. What I don't get is why you seem to get a price of 200 credits per gold, rather than the 400 credits per gold I'm seeing.

burebista · Nov 2, 2012, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agent00skid

What I don't get is why you seem to get a price of 200 credits per gold, rather than the 400 credits per gold I'm seeing.

ON US servers is a special:

Quote:

Starting at 4:30 PDT (11:30 UTC) on October 31st 2012, and lasting until 4:00 PDT (11:00 UTC) on November 4th, 2012 the following discounts and bonuses will be active.

Discount on Premium shells: Up to 58%

So you lucky bastards US players is time to stockpile some gold-ammo for half credits.

agent00skid · Nov 2, 2012, 07:33 AM

To think that there are so many difference between the different locations.

I just thought it was a practicality thing. :O

entropy13 · Nov 2, 2012, 07:34 AM

Is your daily XP bonus for the first victory of the day x5 too?

agent00skid · Nov 2, 2012, 07:41 AM

Think this is why:

http://worldoftanks-sea.com/news/809...on-bonus-code/

burebista · Nov 2, 2012, 07:42 AM

Yeah, this weekend is full of goodies for celebrating winning that Golden Joystick Award.

entropy13 · Nov 2, 2012, 09:52 AM

Well that's the only "goodies" we have. Do the other servers have a "Tank of the Month" too?

entropy13 · Nov 3, 2012, 10:09 AM

Which should I get first: M4 or T1 HT? My other Tier 5s are KV-1 and Pz. III/IV.

agent00skid · Nov 4, 2012, 03:26 AM

While enjoying my SU 85B, I realised that I have much poorer situational awareness in it, than when I'm in my arty. :S

entropy13 · Nov 4, 2012, 04:32 AM

Went with the T1 HT. So now my current tanks are the following: KV-1, T1 HT, T-34, Pz. III/IV, M8A1, and Mk. III.

agent00skid · Nov 4, 2012, 11:36 AM

Cool.

Beginning to love my SU 85B quite a lot. Though I feel like I'm neglecting my SU 5. But that's probably due to the fact that there were nothing new from the SU 26, really. The only other gun option didn't sit too well with me. So it was just a downgrading step up. :S

entropy13 · Nov 4, 2012, 04:47 PM

I've just joined a clan in World of Tanks SEA a few hours ago. LOL

entropy13 · Nov 7, 2012, 01:12 AM

RE: 8.2

New US tanks, new German tanks, and new premiums

(subject to change)

KingPing · Nov 7, 2012, 01:50 AM

The 2nd German TD line?

KingPing · Nov 7, 2012, 06:44 PM

Preview of the Chinese tech three.

ERazer · Nov 13, 2012, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by entropy13

I've just joined a clan in World of Tanks SEA a few hours ago. LOL

which clan? i join PVP in NA, all filino clan

entropy13 · Nov 14, 2012, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ERazer

which clan? i join PVP in NA, all filino clan

AOP. PVP-NA is using our teamspeak server, clanpaku.org.

I poked in TS someone I'm assuming that is you, 3Razerhead.

Played 7 won 7 with Churchill premium LOL. I did 2126 damage in 7 games, even though I've only destroyed 3 in total. That's 303 damage per game in a tank whose "standard shell damage" is 56-94. LOL

entropy13 · Nov 15, 2012, 08:07 AM

My best game ever.

Tatty_One · Nov 15, 2012, 09:13 AM

Anyone tried the UK line yet? I took a look at what tanks were on offer and the first thing that struck me was how weak the guns were, even at Tier 7 it seems that at best they are equipped with Tier 5/6 gunnery. The heavies therefore seem painfully slow with little firepower to protect themselves.

entropy13 · Nov 15, 2012, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

Anyone tried the UK line yet? I took a look at what tanks were on offer and the first thing that struck me was how weak the guns were, even at Tier 7 it seems that at best they are equipped with Tier 5/6 gunnery. The heavies therefore seem painfully slow with little firepower to protect themselves.

At Tier 1 they have the best gun, at Tier 2/3 they have the best gun except for TDs of the same tier. Tier 4 is where it starts going downhill.

Matilda is armored enough to be a medium, but too slow. Its guns are barely more powerful than Tier 4 light tanks' guns. Crusader is another combination of a light and a medium but the other way around.

UK Tier X is not recommended for Clan Wars (arguably the only use of Tier Xs). For example, one of the UK Tier X tanks: gas tank and ammo rack in the FRONT!!!

burebista · Nov 15, 2012, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

Anyone tried the UK line yet?

I'm at Tier 6 both medium and heavy.
Mediums are fine, now I have a great time and fun with Cromwell. Paper armor and meh gun but speed and maneuverability are very nice. Gun depression OK too. So you can hit'n run/circle almost like frogs.

But both Churchill's are horror for me. When they're top tier is fine but when you're bottom oh boy is a pain. They lack speed and maneuverability (20 km/h top speed

), they lack gun depression, they lack penetration and alpha damage. they have some armor but only for their tier.

Dunno what to say, depends on everyone style but for now I'm enjoying more mediums instead heavy's (and I'm a heavy player usually).

Tatty_One · Nov 15, 2012, 10:41 AM

Me usually heavy too but I may give this UK Medium line a little look then thanks.

Nov 1, 2012, 10:28 PM	#176
KingPing Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Argentina (South America) Posts: 748 (0.55/day) Thanks: 132 Thanked 238 Times in 171 Posts System Specs	Interesting, the gold ammo is twice as cheap as the ones in the test server. I don't mind paying 2000 for gold ammo for my Jagdtiger, Lowe, Tiger 2, as the silver ammo isn't cheap either, i'll go for a 50/50 balance for now. __________________ TRUTH is subject to change without notice

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Nov 2, 2012, 12:46 AM	#178
KingPing Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Argentina (South America) Posts: 748 (0.55/day) Thanks: 132 Thanked 238 Times in 171 Posts System Specs	The lower the tier is the less it is worth with some exceptions. Tiger I 88mm L/71 silver ammo 252 per round gold ammo 2000 per round Jagdtiger 128mm L/61 silver ammo 1260 per round gold ammo 2000 per round with those prices i don't mind using gold ammo with the Jagdtiger, but with the Tiger I or Panther, it's quite expensive, especially with high RoF guns. __________________ TRUTH is subject to change without notice

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Nov 1, 2012, 11:49 PM	#177
agent00skid Join Date: May 2012 Location: Denmark Posts: 355 (0.94/day) Thanks: 18 Thanked 154 Times in 87 Posts System Specs	Half price for you? That's not fair. I have 400 credits per gold price. So 2000 per round on my SU 76 and 4000 for my SU 26.

Nov 2, 2012, 12:58 AM	#179
agent00skid Join Date: May 2012 Location: Denmark Posts: 355 (0.94/day) Thanks: 18 Thanked 154 Times in 87 Posts System Specs	No doubt it's only reasonable to use for high tiers. What I don't get is why you seem to get a price of 200 credits per gold, rather than the 400 credits per gold I'm seeing.

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Nov 2, 2012, 07:33 AM	#181
agent00skid Join Date: May 2012 Location: Denmark Posts: 355 (0.94/day) Thanks: 18 Thanked 154 Times in 87 Posts System Specs	To think that there are so many difference between the different locations. I just thought it was a practicality thing. :O

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Nov 2, 2012, 07:41 AM	#183
agent00skid Join Date: May 2012 Location: Denmark Posts: 355 (0.94/day) Thanks: 18 Thanked 154 Times in 87 Posts System Specs	Think this is why: http://worldoftanks-sea.com/news/809...on-bonus-code/

Nov 2, 2012, 07:42 AM	#184
burebista Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Romania Posts: 481 (0.17/day) Thanks: 17 Thanked 109 Times in 95 Posts System Specs	Yeah, this weekend is full of goodies for celebrating winning that Golden Joystick Award. __________________ If it ain't broke... fix it until it is.

Nov 2, 2012, 09:52 AM	#185
entropy13 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,423 (2.22/day) Thanks: 42 Thanked 1,132 Times in 713 Posts System Specs	Well that's the only "goodies" we have. Do the other servers have a "Tank of the Month" too? __________________ MSI P67A-GD65 (B3), Intel Core i5 2500K, Corsair H60, 2x MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr II/OC, G.Skill RipjawsX (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 RAM, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 2TB, Corsair AX1200, Corsair Carbide 400R MSI Z68MA-ED55, i5 2500K, Noctua NH-U9B SE2, Inno3D GTX 570, Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 1TB, Seasonic X660, Lian Li PC-V600FB The Big Useful List of Free Useful Programs To Use Usually For Free

Nov 3, 2012, 10:09 AM	#186
entropy13 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,423 (2.22/day) Thanks: 42 Thanked 1,132 Times in 713 Posts System Specs	Which should I get first: M4 or T1 HT? My other Tier 5s are KV-1 and Pz. III/IV. __________________ MSI P67A-GD65 (B3), Intel Core i5 2500K, Corsair H60, 2x MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr II/OC, G.Skill RipjawsX (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 RAM, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 2TB, Corsair AX1200, Corsair Carbide 400R MSI Z68MA-ED55, i5 2500K, Noctua NH-U9B SE2, Inno3D GTX 570, Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 1TB, Seasonic X660, Lian Li PC-V600FB The Big Useful List of Free Useful Programs To Use Usually For Free

Nov 4, 2012, 03:26 AM	#187
agent00skid Join Date: May 2012 Location: Denmark Posts: 355 (0.94/day) Thanks: 18 Thanked 154 Times in 87 Posts System Specs	While enjoying my SU 85B, I realised that I have much poorer situational awareness in it, than when I'm in my arty. :S

Nov 4, 2012, 04:32 AM	#188
entropy13 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,423 (2.22/day) Thanks: 42 Thanked 1,132 Times in 713 Posts System Specs	Went with the T1 HT. So now my current tanks are the following: KV-1, T1 HT, T-34, Pz. III/IV, M8A1, and Mk. III. __________________ MSI P67A-GD65 (B3), Intel Core i5 2500K, Corsair H60, 2x MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr II/OC, G.Skill RipjawsX (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 RAM, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 2TB, Corsair AX1200, Corsair Carbide 400R MSI Z68MA-ED55, i5 2500K, Noctua NH-U9B SE2, Inno3D GTX 570, Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 1TB, Seasonic X660, Lian Li PC-V600FB The Big Useful List of Free Useful Programs To Use Usually For Free

Nov 4, 2012, 11:36 AM	#189
agent00skid Join Date: May 2012 Location: Denmark Posts: 355 (0.94/day) Thanks: 18 Thanked 154 Times in 87 Posts System Specs	Cool. Beginning to love my SU 85B quite a lot. Though I feel like I'm neglecting my SU 5. But that's probably due to the fact that there were nothing new from the SU 26, really. The only other gun option didn't sit too well with me. So it was just a downgrading step up. :S Last edited by agent00skid; Nov 4, 2012 at 12:46 PM.

Nov 4, 2012, 04:47 PM	#190
entropy13 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,423 (2.22/day) Thanks: 42 Thanked 1,132 Times in 713 Posts System Specs	I've just joined a clan in World of Tanks SEA a few hours ago. LOL __________________ MSI P67A-GD65 (B3), Intel Core i5 2500K, Corsair H60, 2x MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr II/OC, G.Skill RipjawsX (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 RAM, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 2TB, Corsair AX1200, Corsair Carbide 400R MSI Z68MA-ED55, i5 2500K, Noctua NH-U9B SE2, Inno3D GTX 570, Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 1TB, Seasonic X660, Lian Li PC-V600FB The Big Useful List of Free Useful Programs To Use Usually For Free

Nov 7, 2012, 01:12 AM	#191
entropy13 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,423 (2.22/day) Thanks: 42 Thanked 1,132 Times in 713 Posts System Specs	RE: 8.2 New US tanks, new German tanks, and new premiums (subject to change) __________________ MSI P67A-GD65 (B3), Intel Core i5 2500K, Corsair H60, 2x MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr II/OC, G.Skill RipjawsX (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 RAM, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 2TB, Corsair AX1200, Corsair Carbide 400R MSI Z68MA-ED55, i5 2500K, Noctua NH-U9B SE2, Inno3D GTX 570, Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 1TB, Seasonic X660, Lian Li PC-V600FB The Big Useful List of Free Useful Programs To Use Usually For Free

Nov 7, 2012, 01:50 AM	#192
KingPing Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Argentina (South America) Posts: 748 (0.55/day) Thanks: 132 Thanked 238 Times in 171 Posts System Specs	The 2nd German TD line? __________________ TRUTH is subject to change without notice Last edited by KingPing; Nov 7, 2012 at 01:58 AM.

Nov 7, 2012, 06:44 PM	#193
KingPing Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Argentina (South America) Posts: 748 (0.55/day) Thanks: 132 Thanked 238 Times in 171 Posts System Specs	Preview of the Chinese tech three. __________________ TRUTH is subject to change without notice

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Nov 15, 2012, 08:07 AM	#196
entropy13 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,423 (2.22/day) Thanks: 42 Thanked 1,132 Times in 713 Posts System Specs	My best game ever. __________________ MSI P67A-GD65 (B3), Intel Core i5 2500K, Corsair H60, 2x MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr II/OC, G.Skill RipjawsX (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 RAM, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 2TB, Corsair AX1200, Corsair Carbide 400R MSI Z68MA-ED55, i5 2500K, Noctua NH-U9B SE2, Inno3D GTX 570, Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB, OCZ Agility 3 120GB + 1TB, Seasonic X660, Lian Li PC-V600FB The Big Useful List of Free Useful Programs To Use Usually For Free Last edited by entropy13; Nov 16, 2012 at 02:50 AM.

Nov 15, 2012, 09:13 AM	#197
Tatty_One Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Worcestershire, UK Posts: 12,734 (4.75/day) Thanks: 1,093 Thanked 1,931 Times in 1,435 Posts System Specs	Anyone tried the UK line yet? I took a look at what tanks were on offer and the first thing that struck me was how weak the guns were, even at Tier 7 it seems that at best they are equipped with Tier 5/6 gunnery. The heavies therefore seem painfully slow with little firepower to protect themselves. __________________

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Nov 15, 2012, 10:41 AM	#200
Tatty_One Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Worcestershire, UK Posts: 12,734 (4.75/day) Thanks: 1,093 Thanked 1,931 Times in 1,435 Posts System Specs	Me usually heavy too but I may give this UK Medium line a little look then thanks. __________________

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