Elder Scrolls Online

[WhiteNoise]

Considering that BETH aren't the ones actually making the game no one can be upset that Beth isn't working on other projects. I hope the another Fallout is on the way.

That said this doesn't look like a wow clone to me. I've played the shit out of wow, and every fucking other MMO out there that is p2p and now f2p and I just don't see this and think wow. I see it and think...another mmo....will it fail? Most likely. Will I try it? HELL YEAH! Combat like Skyrim is A-OK in my book. Plus it's another TES game AND I'll be able to adventure to all the TES lands! Awesome!

[Solaris17]

all the crying in this thread is awesome.


game looks beautiful

games from bethesda

bethesda makes great stories

i hope its a hit

i hope they dont let idiots on forums change their developers mind

i cant wait to get it.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

all the crying in this thread is awesome.


game looks beautiful

games from bethesda

bethesda makes great stories

i hope its a hit

i hope they dont let idiots on forums change their developers mind

i cant wait to get it.

Um its not being made by Bethesda. Just sayin.

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Um its not being made by Bethesda. Just sayin.

zenimax owns bethesda?

since like morrowind i think.

and was created by one of the founders of bethesda


where is your god now?

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

zenimax owns bethesda?

since like morrowind i think.

and was created by one of the founders of bethesda


where is your god now?

The same people who mand the Marrowind/Skyrim games have zero input on this game. Its a new studio they brought under the bethesda umbrella. Kinda like how RAGE wasn't made by iD software. Where is YOUR GOD NOW?!

[AphexDreamer]

For the record, I don't think anyone knows where their God is ok.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

For the record, I don't think anyone knows where their God is ok.

I found mine at the bottom of a bottle of Absinthe once but, that's for another thread.

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

The same people who mand the Marrowind/Skyrim games have zero input on this game. Its a new studio they brought under the bethesda umbrella. Kinda like how RAGE wasn't made by iD software. Where is YOUR GOD NOW?!

but zenimax media explained that they worked with bethesda game studios to creat the story line etc of the game

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

but zenimax media explained that they worked with bethesda game studios to creat the story line etc of the game

http://www.theandroidscloset.com/wp-...e-anteater.jpg

Just like they did with RAGE (who have all been fired now) consulted with the original iD team.

The REAL Bethesda team is working on an entirely different project right now.

Oh yeah I just came at ya!

[catnipkiller]

The pvp system sounds alot like guild wars 2.

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Just like they did with RAGE (who have all been fired now) consulted with the original iD team.

The REAL Bethesda team is working on an entirely different project right now.

Oh yeah I just came at ya!

kind of like nvidia is working on cards 2 generations ahead of whats "new" right now? that argument doesnt make sense. Of course bethesda is working on its next gen single player game why wouldnt it be? what does your statement mean?

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

kind of like nvidia is working on cards 2 generations ahead of whats "new" right now? that argument doesnt make sense. Of course bethesda is working on its next gen single player game why wouldnt it be? what does your statement mean?

That its not working on this MMO and never has?

[3870x2]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

Fallout Online was being made by Interplay/Masthead Studios, this is actually being made by Betheseda, so I wouldn't exactly correlate the death of one with the life of the other. And once again it seems like an opinion of someone who doesn't play MMO's or didn't watch the video. Left click to attack and right click to block is how Skyrim works, and how they said this will work (WoW is auto attack with hotkeys), this is a mega server, WoW is in Shards.

I could be wrong on your seat time with WoW, but I played that game for 7 years, maybe you did actually play. And if you did, explain what would make it a clone rather than just using a blanket statement of "wow clone".



You have trouble reading? Your the one shitting, then saying it might not be shit, as the game isn't out yet and it could be true. Which many things could be true, the games slated for 2013, not much info is out yet, so we'll see as it unfolds. So far you have made almost half the posts in this thread, and none of it has been constructive, it just all seems like crying.

Theres things I dislike that are thread topics on here, I just stay away from them as it's not constructive for me to step in and make fun of those things. I mean you got your opinion out, you think it's going to be crap, you hate Betheseda for doing it, is there much else to say about that? Or you just going to rehash it in every posts?



I don't know, I like the concept of any armor type with any weapon type. Having an open skill set like that isn't run of the mill, I'm not sure any MMO has done that yet. Some of the examples they said like Heavy Armor + Bows or Robes + Two-Handers. If they can really make these things work and let anyone use the weapon types they want while using the armors they want. There will be interesting classes like Spell Swords and other crazy mixes that should be fun. Thats if they make it that open, which it sounds like they are trying, we can only hope though.

TL: DR, but I can tell by the length of the post that I probably upset you. Didn't mean to offend, only to provide correlation between you and the excellently drawn picture.

I am ok with all of the companies throwing money down the drain trying to achieve the success that wow had by copy and pasting, and have even enjoyed RIFT for some time, but when I heard about ES:MMO, I was very, very excited to get Skyrim with 1000 other players.

I am not getting Skyrim with 1000 other players, thus my distaste. Hell even 64 players per area would be great.

[yogurt_21]

in the past 10 years or so I've followed a simple rule after being burned in the past. The rule is, "all games are shit until proven otherwise"

this along with price is typically why you'll see me buy a 2 year old game before a new title. Sure everyone else has already beaten it and is totally bored of it now. But the bugs are worked out, it typically comes bundled with the dlc, and long term reviews are out on it. (ie is it fun to play again and again or just once?)

so I can share the sentinment of others predicting a game that's not in the same quality of the past bethesda games. History tells me mmo's are crap 95% of the time. It also tells me that farming out a game makes it a crap game 75% of the time. so you take 25% of 5% and you're left with a 1.25% chance that this game will be good and a 98.75% chance that it will suck.

so until proven otherwise, that's what I'll go with. in 2 years if it's not that expensive of a subscription and the game has been good enough to stay on a pay to play model, I might consider it.

[3870x2]

Originally Posted by yogurt_21

in the past 10 years or so I've followed a simple rule after being burned in the past. The rule is, "all games are shit until proven otherwise"

this along with price is typically why you'll see me buy a 2 year old game before a new title. Sure everyone else has already beaten it and is totally bored of it now. But the bugs are worked out, it typically comes bundled with the dlc, and long term reviews are out on it. (ie is it fun to play again and again or just once?)

so I can share the sentinment of others predicting a game that's not in the same quality of the past bethesda games. History tells me mmo's are crap 95% of the time. It also tells me that farming out a game makes it a crap game 75% of the time. so you take 25% of 5% and you're left with a 1.25% chance that this game will be good and a 98.75% chance that it will suck.

so until proven otherwise, that's what I'll go with. in 2 years if it's not that expensive of a subscription and the game has been good enough to stay on a pay to play model, I might consider it.

Can't disagree with that philosophy, especially with models like steam, and their huge sales. Hell, I got Deus EX for like $15 or something. How many people paid full price not but months before?

[Mathragh]

Even though I was actually waiting for Fallout online instead(but then i heard some rumors about it being cancelled/ whatever), I'm really looking forward to this game aswell.

The combat system seems to be a nice change from what we've had with most popular "big" mmo's and the world/story/lore is, if its anything like the elder scrolls singleplayer,awesome.
Furthermore, I really like the way they're currently presenting the form of PVP they're gonna implement. Another great point seems to be the way they're planning on assigning players to their respective worlds/servers. The biggest problem I had when playing WoW(which got increasingly worse when the game was getting older) was the amount of random people you had to deal with if you wanted to group that were total asses. The solution zenimax seems to have for that seems to be a good one, if they can implement it succesfully.

All in all, from the information currently available, imho its shaping up quite nicely, and should be a good alternative to most games on the market today.

[3870x2]

Originally Posted by Mathragh

Even though I was actually waiting for Fallout online instead(but then i heard some rumors about it being cancelled/ whatever), I'm really looking forward to this game aswell.

The combat system seems to be a nice change from what we've had with most popular "big" mmo's and the world/story/lore is, if its anything like the elder scrolls singleplayer,awesome.
Furthermore, I really like the way they're currently presenting the form of PVP they're gonna implement. Another great point seems to be the way they're planning on assigning players to their respective worlds/servers. The biggest problem I had when playing WoW(which got increasingly worse when the game was getting older) was the amount of random people you had to deal with if you wanted to group that were total asses. The solution zenimax seems to have for that seems to be a good one, if they can implement it succesfully.

All in all, from the information currently available, imho its shaping up quite nicely, and should be a good alternative to most games on the market today.

An alternative to fecal matter is yet more fecal matter.

I guess I am being a bit harsh, but I want more activity and action in our MMOs today. Imagine an MMO with the gameplay of Zelda: OOT. I remember when MMOs first started coming out with the standard cookie-cutter gameplay that we see today, I always imagined what an MMO would be like with gameplay similar to ocarina of time, on a massive scale.

I guess this is all derived from a game that I used to play called Graal Online, which copied the super nintendo Zelda, and put it in a massive universe, and it was a hell of a lot of fun.

[Mathragh]

Originally Posted by 3870x2

An alternative to fecal matter is yet more fecal matter.

I guess I am being a bit harsh, but I want more activity and action in our MMOs today. Imagine an MMO with the gameplay of Zelda: OOT. I remember when MMOs first started coming out with the standard cookie-cutter gameplay that we see today, I always imagined what an MMO would be like with gameplay similar to ocarina of time, on a massive scale.

I guess this is all derived from a game that I used to play called Graal Online, which copied the super nintendo Zelda, and put it in a massive universe, and it was a hell of a lot of fun.

In my opinion, you're definatively being quite harsh Ofc you have all right to be, but imho you either didnt do enough research to warrant such claims(since as far as i read/saw, they were clearly planning to make the actual combat as much like skyrim as they could within the MMO paradigm), or you're just flinging crap around in order to invoke responses from people like me :P

EDIT: this video might give you more insight as to why I think this wont be what you think it would be.

[3870x2]

WoW is an instant classic, I would love to put that back in 15 years from now and bang out a few hours, it was so much fun to play.

Sounds odd huh? That is our current 'MMO paradigm'.

[DannibusX]

My problem with WoW isn't gameplay, it was the constant dumbing down of content. My favorite times in WoW was during Vanilla and The Burning Crusade. Everything after that was a nerf fest making the game far too easy.

I played a lot of Ultima Online as well and the skill system in that game was/is incredible. The of the Elder Scrolls games use a very similar system, which I hope TESO retains which would make one of my dream games a reality. A gameplay system similar to WoW with the skill system of UO and as a bonus, the lore of a series like TES.

RAGE was developed by id and published by Bethesda. Zenimax developing TESO is a good thing, as they own Bethesda and it leaves Bethesda open to continue doing their thing with no real impact to their team.

[LAN_deRf_HA]

There is no potential here. The idea that people can find that movement/environment interaction system bearable after all this time, all these clones, horrifies me. You know what you see there? People standing around an immobile bad guy watching dmg indicators flash around them. This targeted click menu click interface is beyond unacceptable at this point. Even the graphics have that same generic wow clone look with the big fat low poly stylized trees and plants.

Give us a real engine, with real free motion combat like every other decent game for the past decade. That's what had people excited for the idea of this game, and that's why there was a universal scream of agony when the world found out it was some shit tier wow mmo not even done by the Bethesda team. If you're getting excited about this I hope you enjoy disappointment, or at the least can still play wow with a straight face.

[3870x2]

Originally Posted by LAN_deRf_HA

There is no potential here. The idea that people can find that movement/environment interaction system bearable after all this time, all these clones, horrifies me. You know what you see there? People standing around an immobile bad guy watching dmg indicators flash around them. This targeted click menu click interface is beyond unacceptable at this point. Even the graphics have that same generic wow clone look with the big fat low poly stylized trees and plants.

Give us a real engine, with real free motion combat like every other decent game for the past decade. That's what had people excited for the idea of this game, and that's why there was a universal scream of agony when the world found out it was some shit tier wow mmo not even done by the Bethesda team. If you're getting excited about this I hope you enjoy disappointment, or at the least can still play wow with a straight face.

This guy gets it. If I weren't so pissed, I might have been able to come up with something as eloquent.

[Kreij]

I really enjoy the ES games.
This MMO looks cool and I'll most likely try it, even though I'm not a big MMO fan.
If I like it I'll stay, if not I'll leave.

I really don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks.

[vawrvawerawe]

I've been waiting for this for a year! Really hope they don't do the subscription route.

The game looks really good, nothing like WOW or any of those things. I could never play MMOs because I played for like 5 minutes to try it, and hated it.

Another video:

[3870x2]

Don't forget the only reason to do this is the subscription route, they want to make money like WoW, who makes more a month than all titles on the PC combined (no source, asshole talking here)

Either that, or they might try microtransactions.

I don't disagree with the subscription route, as maintaining a MMO requires a lot of work, and sometimes I wonder how GW2 gets along without it.