Is it bad to use DVI to HDMI cable?

vawrvawerawe · Nov 17, 2012, 09:21 PM

I see a bunch on ebay

TRWOV · Nov 17, 2012, 09:24 PM

No, it's a straight pin to pin adapter.

FordGT90Concept · Nov 17, 2012, 09:25 PM

No. Just doesn't give you the option of only DVI like a DVI cable + DVI -> HDMI adapter would.

vawrvawerawe · Nov 17, 2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TRWOV

No, it's a straight pin to pin adapter.

What about DVI to VGA?

FordGT90Concept · Nov 17, 2012, 09:29 PM

Same. DVI-A is electrically compatible with VGA (D-Sub 15).

vawrvawerawe · Nov 17, 2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Same. DVI-A is electrically compatible with VGA (D-Sub 15).

Any decreased video quality on 1080p 14" as opposed to a standard dvi cable?

And I just learned there are several kinds of dvi - DVI-D, DVI-I, DVI-A, etc. Which should I buy?

Completely Bonkers · Nov 17, 2012, 09:31 PM

vawrvawerawe · Nov 17, 2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Completely Bonkers

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/qa/im...rs-diagram.jpg

Thanks for the picture, but which should I buy? 1080p 24" display

Jetster · Nov 17, 2012, 09:34 PM

Dual-link Model

FordGT90Concept · Nov 17, 2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

Any decreased video quality on 1080p 14" as opposed to a standard dvi cable?

VGA? Yes. VGA is analog.

And I just learned there are several kinds of dvi - DVI-D, DVI-I, DVI-A, etc. Which should I buy?[/QUOTE]

DVI-D is digital (best) compatible with HDMI (via adapter) and DVI-D/DVI-I
DVI-A is analog (okay) compatible with VGA (via adapter) and DVI-A/DVI-I
DVI-I is digital and analog (depends) compatible with HDMI (adapter), DVI-D, DVI-I, DVI-A, and VGA (via adapter).

If the monitor has speakers: HDMI
If the monitor does not have speakers: DVI-D

vawrvawerawe · Nov 17, 2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetster

Dual-link Model

ok; DVI-D dual-link or DVI-I dual-link?

FordGT90Concept · Nov 17, 2012, 09:35 PM

To be safe, DVI-D dual-link. I've seen a lot of monitors that won't accept DVI-I.

I've bought lots of DVI-D dual-link male-male Rosewill branded cables that are great. You can get them for relatively cheap from NewEgg.

Edit:
3 ft: Rosewill Model RCAB-11053 3 ft. DVI-D Male to DVI-...
6 ft: Rosewill 6ft. DVI-D (24+1) Male to DVI-D (24+1) Ma...
10 ft: Rosewill Model RCAB-11054 10 ft. DVI-D Male to DVI...
15 ft: Rosewill Model RCAB-11055 15 ft. DVI-D Male to DVI...

If all you're doing is plugging a monitor into a computer via DVI, those will work.

vawrvawerawe · Nov 17, 2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

To be safe, DVI-D dual-link. I've seen a lot of monitors that won't accept DVI-I.

Thank you. I will do that.

Main monitor has speakers and I have it connected to HDMI cable. But second monitor, there is an issue with the HDMI (blacks look gray, got $30 refund for this but the VGA port is fine, and I assume so is the DVI port), so that's why I'm not also using HDMI with that monitor.

DVI to HDMI won't transmit sound, right?

Crap Daddy · Nov 17, 2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

DVI to HDMI won't transmit sound, right?

Right.

vawrvawerawe · Nov 17, 2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Right.

What is the difference between single- and dual-link?

FordGT90Concept · Nov 17, 2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

Thank you. I will do that.

Main monitor has speakers and I have it connected to HDMI cable. But second monitor, there is an issue with the HDMI (blacks look gray, got $30 refund for this but the VGA port is fine, and I assume so is the DVI port), so that's why I'm not also using HDMI with that monitor.

DVI to HDMI won't transmit sound, right?

It could be the graphics card. I had a 9800 GT with a borked DVI-I port.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

What is the difference between single- and dual-link?

Bandwidth. Dual-link has twice the bandwidth as single-link. Single-Link is only capable of up to 1920x1200 @ 60fps & 24-bit. Dual-link can do the same up to 2560x1600.

vawrvawerawe · Nov 17, 2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

It could be the graphics card. I had a 9800 GT with a borked DVI-I port.

No. it is a laptop, and the hdmi cable works fine for the first monitor, but not the second monitor. I don't have my PC desktop finished built yet, haven't received the graphics cards.

The issue is with the monitor itself. Which is probably why the seller included a VGA cable so that hopefully the buyer would never discover the HDMI problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

To be safe, DVI-D dual-link. I've seen a lot of monitors that won't accept DVI-I.

I've bought lots of DVI-D dual-link male-male Rosewill branded cables that are great. You can get them for relatively cheap from NewEgg.

Edit:
3 ft: Rosewill Model RCAB-11053 3 ft. DVI-D Male to DVI-...
6 ft: Rosewill 6ft. DVI-D (24+1) Male to DVI-D (24+1) Ma...
10 ft: Rosewill Model RCAB-11054 10 ft. DVI-D Male to DVI...
15 ft: Rosewill Model RCAB-11055 15 ft. DVI-D Male to DVI...

If all you're doing is plugging a monitor into a computer via DVI, those will work.

i found three better priced 10-foot dual link dvi-d on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sewell-DVI-D...item3f1510c0df
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10FT-DVI-D-D...item4cf4b28b75
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-10Ft-DVI...item27c8bccf97

vawrvawerawe · Nov 17, 2012, 09:50 PM

hmm...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10FT-DVI-D-D...item4cf4b28b75

doesn't list 1080p in the description? Did they just forget to write it, or does it not support 1080p?

--

This other one (same link from before) http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-10Ft-DVI...item27c8bccf97
it says up to 2048 x 1536 resolution

erocker · Nov 17, 2012, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe

doesn't list 1080p in the description? Did they just forget to write it, or does it not support 1080p?

It doesn't list any resolution in the description.

Oh, of course it supports it.

vawrvawerawe · Nov 17, 2012, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by erocker

It doesn't list any resolution in the description.

Oh, of course it supports it.

here it is. easy to miss because their text is crazy

erocker · Nov 17, 2012, 10:08 PM

DVI-D supports 1080p. That's all you need to know.

vawrvawerawe · Nov 17, 2012, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

DVI-D supports 1080p. That's all you need to know.

Thanks erocker

FordGT90Concept · Nov 17, 2012, 10:24 PM

It only says dual-link in the title and they also claim it is HDTV. HDTV has nothing to do with DVI. I would be wary of purchasing.

The fact it says "this cable does not support monitor larger than 30" inches" strongly suggests it is single-link (not that 30" means anything).

Is it really worth the hassels of eBay to save $1.50?

vawrvawerawe · Nov 18, 2012, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

It only says dual-link in the title and they also claim it is HDTV. HDTV has nothing to do with DVI. I would be wary of purchasing.

The fact it says "this cable does not support monitor larger than 30" inches" strongly suggests it is single-link (not that 30" means anything).

Is it really worth the hassels of eBay to save $1.50?

I always found ebay to be the opposite of hassle. But maybe that's because I've been using it for many years (decade or more) and am fully conditioned to knowing all the tricks to know who not to buy from. And since I use PayPal, PayPal *always* refunds me if the item is not as described. So I feel very safe using ebay.

scaminatrix · Nov 18, 2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Right.

My DVI to HDMI cable does. Just had to test it to make sure

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vawrvawerawe Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 501 (2.62/day) Thanks: 269 Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts	hmm... http://www.ebay.com/itm/10FT-DVI-D-D...item4cf4b28b75 doesn't list 1080p in the description? Did they just forget to write it, or does it not support 1080p? -- This other one (same link from before) http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-10Ft-DVI...item27c8bccf97 it says up to 2048 x 1536 resolution __________________ MSI Z77A-G45 \| Sapphire HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 x2 CROSSFIRE \| Intel Core i7-3770K \| Patriot Viper 3 16GB 1866 CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX \| OCZ Agility 4 256GB SATAIII \| Xbt \| 10TB WD SATAIII HDDs \| Rosewill Challenger Case Selling 2x HD 7950 3GB: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=182118

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