What happend till the 0.6.2???

[vinibali]

dear Devs,
i use GPU-Z many years ago, but the last times i going to be useless. i dont really know, is there anyone who cares about the bugs???

[W1zzard]

Your GPU is integrated with the CPU, so there is no bus to transfer data on, so "N/A" was chosen to more correctly represent that fact.

15°C was an incorrect reading, -49°C is incorrect too. AMD's temperature sensors are simply a pain to work with.

I'll look into the memory size number.

[the54thvoid]

Originally Posted by vinibali

dear Devs,
i use GPU-Z many years ago, but the last times i going to be useless. i dont really know, is there anyone who cares about the bugs???
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/121119/gpuz_w...toltes.hu_.png

For free software you could be a little more pleasant with your criticism.

[vinibali]

Originally Posted by W1zzard

Your GPU is integrated with the CPU, so there is no bus to transfer data on, so "N/A" was chosen to more correctly represent that fact.

15°C was an incorrect reading, -49°C is incorrect too. AMD's temperature sensors are simply a pain to work with.

I'll look into the memory size number.

yes its integrated,but the Fusion Bus is still existing and temp was displayes correctly previously.
I dont wanted to hurt any of the Dev(s) and im glad to your answer

[W1zzard]

there is no fusion bus, back in the day i just put "Fusion" there, because it shows "PCI" (not PCI-Express) otherwise

[W1zzard]

found the problem. please check if the attached build works better

[qubit]

Originally Posted by W1zzard

there is no fusion bus, back in the day i just put "Fusion" there, because it shows "PCI" (not PCI-Express) otherwise

It must have some sort of bus, though? A data bus and address bus are essential to any processor.

[3870x2]

Originally Posted by W1zzard

found the problem. please check if the attached build works better

This man codes on-demand for a user with 5 posts.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by qubit

It must have some sort of bus, though? A data bus and address bus are essential to any processor.

Where?

[the54thvoid]

Originally Posted by 3870x2

This man codes on-demand for a user with 5 posts.

I know he lives in Germany but the man must be German. Only a German has that level of efficiency.

[W1zzard]

Originally Posted by qubit

It must have some sort of bus, though? A data bus and address bus are essential to any processor.

http://ft.ornl.gov/~dol/papers/cf12_llano.pdf

Section 2.1

[qubit]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Where?

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...abelledDie.jpg

Originally Posted by W1zzard

http://ft.ornl.gov/~dol/papers/cf12_llano.pdf

Section 2.1

Indeed, the Fusion Compute Link (FCL) and the Radeon Memory Bus (RMB). Has to be there one way or the other, end of.

So, why not use the proper names?

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by qubit

Indeed, the Fusion Compute Link (FCL) and the Radeon Memory Bus (RMB). Has to be there one way or the other, end of.

So, why not use the proper names?

Because they aren't really "buses" in the traditional sense? They are direct links to on-chip memory. The diagram is posted shows this as "channel", as far as I understand, so personally, I didn't think it actually had a name.

And it's not one way or another..it's both. FCL for cache hits, RMB for system-memory access.

[cdawall]

He could put "on the freaking CPU die" so the silly people calm down.

[qubit]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Because they aren't really "buses" in the traditional sense? They are direct links to on-chip memory. The diagram is posted shows this as "channel", as far as I understand, so personally, I didn't think it actually had a name.

And it's not one way or another..it's both.

Yeah, they're tightly integrated between the CPU and GPU parts of the chip hence "Fusion" and are likely to be physically very short too, but they're still there. That's all I'm saying. How else could the GPU push data and address memory?

[Kreij]

W1zz is correct in using N/A or even "None" as there is no bus interface.

[qubit]

Originally Posted by Kreij

W1zz is correct in using N/A or even "None" as there is no bus interface.

There is definitely an interface with a well defined protocol. The CPU and GPU cores are simply tightly integrated, hence the name "Fusion" - AMD even named them as I pointed out above.

My point might seem pedantic* but it's good practice to call things by their proper names, especially in a utility that is distributed widely. The fact it isn't is what caused the OP to feel confused about it in the first place. He would not have been with the correct names.

*and it probably is.

[W1zzard]

Originally Posted by qubit

There is definitely an interface with a well defined protocol. The CPU and GPU cores are simply tightly integrated, hence the name "Fusion" - AMD even named them as I pointed out above.

My point might seem pedantic* but it's good practice to call things by their proper names, especially in a utility that is distributed widely. The fact it isn't is what caused the OP to feel confused about it in the first place. He would not have been with the correct names.

*and it probably is.

you might have a point, but users expect to see "PCI-Express" "AGP" "PCI" in GPU-Z, not some mumbo jumbo term, that may or may not exist as documented.

Since the GPU is integrated in the CPU, GPU-Z makes the simplification to says there is no bus interface. wontfix

[vinibali]

Originally Posted by 3870x2

This man codes on-demand for a user with 5 posts.

and if i have only 5 post, what it means?

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by W1zzard

that may or may not exist as documented.

That's what I thought, but didn't wanna put words in your mouth. FCL or RMB will not give users an useful info, since Google searches turn up NODDA on those two.

Originally Posted by vinibali

and if i have only 5 post, what it means?

it means nothing, other than that W1zz will help out no matter who ya are, if he can. try getting that from a big company.

[3870x2]

Originally Posted by vinibali

and if i have only 5 post, what it means?

It means that he is dedicated. It was nothing against you, and I hope that you enjoy TPU

[Kreij]

lol ... you crack me up, Q.
You know darn well that the "bus interface" on GPU-Z has historically meant "where type of external bus does the GC plug in to", and in this case ... none.

Anyway, W1zz will make the call as it's his program. I vote for "Internal" or "Integrated"

[3870x2]

Originally Posted by Kreij

lol ... you crack me up, Q.
You know darn well that the "bus interface" on GPU-Z has historically meant "where type of external bus does the GC plug in to", and in this case ... none.

Anyway, W1zz will make the call as it's his program. I vote for "Internal" or "Integrated"

I vote for a very cunfusing, obscure error number not found in any documentation.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by Kreij

lol ... you crack me up, Q.
You know darn well that the "bus interface" on GPU-Z has historically meant "where type of external bus does the GC plug in to", and in this case ... none.

Anyway, W1zz will make the call as it's his program. I vote for "Internal" or "Integrated"

Got it FM1/2

[vinibali]

Originally Posted by the54thvoid

I know he lives in Germany but the man must be German. Only a German has that level of efficiency.

no, im hungarian. there was just some bugs, i dont think its gonna be german precision. i think thats why this program has a forum.