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Old Nov 20, 2012, 10:10 AM   #1
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Hello, im a little confused about the PCIe x16 slots. If i plug the VGA in pcie x16_1 slot and a pcie sound card in the second pcie x16_2 slot, will be any performance issue. My M/Bs manual says for dual pcie x16 works at 16. But what dual configuration? Dual VGA cards or generally dual?

If i plugin the vga in the second pcie x16_2 slot, will be any issue performance?
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 11:07 AM   #2
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mate it will same performance, booth are 16x 2.0 so it will be no deference in performance, dual VGA cards it's an option but they should be same cards, not same manufacture but same series and model number, with ATI cards it's called CrossFire and with nvidia cards it's called SLI, but basically they are same idea, dual cards work as one card performance will be %180 up to %195 depend on cards series and drivers version.
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OK thanks. So using both PCIe 3.0 x16 with different type of cards, there is no affect.
What if i plug the VGA to the PCIe 3.0 x16_2, leaving PCIe 3.0 x16_1 blank? Is it ok ?
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OK, I'm going to try to glaze over the big points. If I go too deep my apologies.

The Intel chips have a certain amount of interconnectivity, in the form of PCI-e lanes, available to them. Some of these lanes come from the PCH (Platform Control Hub, the device that talks to the CPU), while others come from the CPU directly.

This limited number of lanes can be assigned to any number of slots. A board with 32 PCI-e x1 slots and a board with 2 PCI-e x16 slots can be made from the same CPU/PCH combination.

When a manufacturer advertises that a board will run in x16/x16 with two slots populated and x16/x8/x8 with three slots they are saying that the available 32 lanes can be divided multiple ways, but there are only 32 lanes available.


Given what you're stating, there should be no problem populating any of the slots. The graphics card, a x16, should go into the primary slot. Check your motherboard manufacturer for which one to populate. Any subsequent, non-graphics, cards can go anywhere. The fact that you aren't currently running multiple graphics cards means that there should be little concern in populating any other slots.


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Motherboards generally have a set list of where to check for a specific piece of hardware. That's the reason manufacturers generally tell you where to put a graphics card (check the motherboard manual, available online if you don't have a paper copy). They can work with graphics cards in other slots, but are generally rather finicky about wanting to do this. In short, putting the graphics card in another slot might be possible, but it definitely isn't recommended.
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If i plug the VGA in pcie x16_1 slot and a pcie sound card in the second pcie x16_2 slot, will be any performance issue.
The board as two PCI-E 1x slots, is there any reason why you're not plugging your sound card into one of those? The only way this wouldn't work is if your video card is 3 slots wide.
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If you put your sound card into your second pci-e 16 slot,both the 1st and 2nd will run @ 8x,which should still offer more than enugh bandwith but if you want 16 place your audio into a 1x slot.
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If you put your sound card into your second pci-e 16 slot,both the 1st and 2nd will run @ 8x,which should still offer more than enugh bandwith but if you want 16 place your audio into a 1x slot.
That's only with the third slot. If the third PCI-E x16 slot is populated then the second drops to 8x as well, but if only the first two slots are populated they both run at x16.
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That's only with the third slot. If the third PCI-E x16 slot is populated then the second drops to 8x as well, but if only the first two slots are populated they both run at x16.
The M/B's manual (Asus Cybertooth X79) says dual 16x16 and the third x8 mode. My configuration is:
1) PCIe 3.0 x16 - VGA
2) PCIe 2.0 x1 - Blank covered by vga
3) PCIe 2.0 x1 - Sound Card PCIe x1 card
4) PCIe 3.0 x16 - TV Card PCIe x1 card
5) PCI slot - Blank
6) PCIe 3.0 x16 - Raid Adaptec PCIe x4 card

Is that configuration OK ? Is there anything better?
I can skip the sound card and use from the motherboard but i prefer my sound blaster.

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The M/B's manual (Asus Cybertooth X79) says dual 16x16 and the third x8 mode. My configuration is:
1) PCIe 3.0 x16 - VGA
2) PCIe 2.0 x1 - Blank covered by vga
3) PCIe 2.0 x1 - Sound Card PCIe x1 card
4) PCIe 3.0 x16 - TV Card PCIe x1 card
5) PCI slot - Blank
6) PCIe 3.0 x16 - Raid Adaptec PCIe x4 card

Is that configuration OK ? Is there anything better?
I can skip the sound card and use from the motherboard but i prefer my sound blaster.

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Try this setup instead.

1) PCIe 3.0 x16 - Raid Adaptec PCIe x4 card
2) PCIe 2.0 x1 - TV Card PCIe x1 card
3) PCIe 2.0 x1 - Sound Card PCIe x1 card
4) PCIe 3.0 x16 - VGA
5) PCI slot - Covered by VGA
6) PCIe 3.0 x16 - Empty

That way your video card still runs at 16x and only covers the PCI slots, both of your 1x cards are in 1x slots. Your video card should also breath easier without any cards by the cooler.
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Try this setup instead.

1) PCIe 3.0 x16 - Raid Adaptec PCIe x4 card
2) PCIe 2.0 x1 - TV Card PCIe x1 card
3) PCIe 2.0 x1 - Sound Card PCIe x1 card
4) PCIe 3.0 x16 - VGA
5) PCI slot - Covered by VGA
6) PCIe 3.0 x16 - Empty

That way your video card still runs at 16x and only covers the PCI slots, both of your 1x cards are in 1x slots. Your video card should also breath easier without any cards by the cooler.
OK Many thanks for that.
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