Maximus V Extreme & i5 3570K issues.

sneekypeet · Nov 12, 2012, 10:10 PM

I seem to have an issue overclocking my 3570K on this MVE.
What happens is no matter where i change the processor speed, whether the CPU level up, changing turbo ratios on the extreme tweakers page of the bios, nor in the CPU power management, can I get the results i am looking to achieve.

What is happening is that i either get full on overclock without speed step being active, so that the OC is always on. On the flip side if I change the turbo cores and set the top one to 40, I get into windows to find it running locked at 3.8ghz.

I used to think I knew what i was doing with overclocking but this board is about to make me rip my hair out. Been playing with it for about a week, and while a locked OC is fine for some, I would like to figure out how to set the OC and keep speed step active.

Any help is appreciated on this!

AthlonX2 · Nov 12, 2012, 10:39 PM

I think this mobo is to leet for TPU.

Eternalchaos · Nov 12, 2012, 10:47 PM

best place to ask that is on the ROG forum http://rog.asus.com/forum/forumdispl...rds&order=desc

sneekypeet · Nov 12, 2012, 10:48 PM

I was thinking about that, but their forums seem a little lame to me, I figured I would pick brains here first, someone has to own this board.

drdeathx · Nov 12, 2012, 11:03 PM

Post screen shots of the bios

sneekypeet · Nov 12, 2012, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

Post screen shots of the bios

good point. playing with the OC and I will get a few up!

Edit, seems I stumbled onto something and it is working now. Setting the turbo multi with only control of one core with the same multi across all 4 cores, and now speed step is just working now.

It seems in the end it was CPU-z just reading it wrong and it was actually using speed step too. As soon as I opened Aida64 CPU-z would show the right speeds as well.

erocker · Nov 13, 2012, 12:27 AM

Not sure if The Extreme's bios is much different from the Formula, but here's a link to my bios settings: http://s403.beta.photobucket.com/use...mus%20V%20Bios

sneekypeet · Nov 13, 2012, 12:49 AM

I ended up with 1.3V running 4.5GHz and was able to keep the memory stable at 2600Mhz with speed step moving. I think I am good with this for now

drdeathx · Nov 13, 2012, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

I ended up with 1.3V running 4.5GHz and was able to keep the memory stable at 2600Mhz with speed step moving. I think I am good with this for now

^5

sneekypeet · Nov 13, 2012, 02:01 AM

This is all I changed...

drdeathx · Nov 13, 2012, 02:54 AM

See if you can get 1T on the command rate. If not back the frequency down to 2400MHz at lower timings with 1T for command rte and memory will perform a bit better. Maybe 9/10/10/28/1T @2400Mhz. Looks like you have it now. It has been a while since I farted with Asus Bios

sneekypeet · Nov 13, 2012, 04:01 AM

1T runs fine, but I didnt get 2666mhz memory to run 2400

erixx · Nov 13, 2012, 06:01 AM

Hi, M5E here!
At least I always get throttling of multiplier with EPU ON in BIOS and then, at windows level, of the 3 EPU profiles only "Energy saving" was throttling (auto and Performance, not).
Good luck.

drdeathx · Nov 13, 2012, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

1T runs fine, but I didnt get 2666mhz memory to run 2400

If you get 2666MHz at 1T thats awesome. Tighten them timings as much as you can and you have a winner.

vawrvawerawe · Nov 13, 2012, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

I was thinking about that, but their forums seem a little lame to me, I figured I would pick brains here first, someone has to own this board.

Yes, asus forums are pretty lame

erixx · Nov 13, 2012, 10:42 AM

Asus ordinary forums are lame because nearly nobody uses them, no permanent users eithers apart from some mod.
ROG forums seam a bit more attractive but nothing like TPU

Edit: And since its origins every Asus site is slow as the fart of a coward....

brandonwh64 · Nov 13, 2012, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

I ended up with 1.3V running 4.5GHz and was able to keep the memory stable at 2600Mhz with speed step moving. I think I am good with this for now

Thats a good setup for that chip! I am running both 2600K's at 1.32V 4.5ghz and both do not get over 60 degrees

Glad you got it worked out peet

erixx · Nov 13, 2012, 11:11 AM

my 2500K runs in the 50-60º celcius during Aida64 stress tests, at 4400 Mhz, and 1,36 volt....

mediasorcerer · Nov 21, 2012, 01:41 PM

Thanx for posting those screen shots, very helpful actually.
Mine seems to be pretty stable @ 4.6 atm.-1.330 cpu voltage, think that's too high?

Did you drop the vccio voltage from 1.67700 to 1.65000 ?

There are updates on the asus website for ai suite, game first, and bios.

sneekypeet · Nov 21, 2012, 01:57 PM

bios newer than the 1307?

Edit: just looked 1408, will have to give it a try.

fullinfusion · Nov 21, 2012, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

If you get 2666MHz at 1T thats awesome. Tighten them timings as much as you can and you have a winner.

Those sticks dont really improve when you screw with the timings. I have a set and spent enough time playing around that the way they come is the best they are going to be imho.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

bios newer than the 1307?

Edit: just looked 1408, will have to give it a try.

You need to do slight adjustments to your voltages Sneeky.

for example you have the

DRAM voltage set @ 1.65 but really it's running 1.677v
VCCO voltage set @ 1.25v is also out @ 1.261v

I find buy just lowering the voltage a click or two lower and just reboot back into the bios the voltage can be checked again to see if any further adjustments are needed.
What have you the Digi+power control settings at? I didnt see a screen shot of it.

Being a new board your going to need to monitor the ROG forums for Bios updates.
They seem to post them there first for some reason

The bios updates are going to be the key to all your issues with that board, trust me I've been running ROG boards for years and know there what to and what not's of them

cadaveca · Nov 21, 2012, 03:05 PM

Meh. I run 0.95V on VCCSA, and 1.05V on VCCIO @ 4x4 GB 2666 MHz memory. Hynix or Samsung doesn't matter. It just took a few sub-timing changes to get it working right, but that's all.

Don't flash 1408!!!!

DO NOT!!!

erixx · Nov 21, 2012, 03:21 PM

Your carpet is so old fashioned! LOL (But hardware not... hehehehe)
Great thread, thanks all.
BTW; yes, Asus increases set voltages like a bitch... So you have to fool them in the BIOS

sneekypeet · Nov 21, 2012, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Don't flash 1408!!!!

DO NOT!!!

reasoning? I figured since I have dual chips I cant really go wrong can I?

erixx · Nov 21, 2012, 03:29 PM

OHHOHHOOOO!

That creates the VERY decisive question: when you update BIOS, it updates only the active CHIP of the TWO CHIPS? Right now I am unaware of what I did when I updated the BIOS. Theorically, I could be using an age old one, as I switched somewhere in the process....

checking....

Nov 12, 2012, 10:10 PM	#1
sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 19,025 (7.31/day) Thanks: 3,042 Thanked 5,488 Times in 3,951 Posts System Specs	Maximus V Extreme & i5 3570K issues. I seem to have an issue overclocking my 3570K on this MVE. What happens is no matter where i change the processor speed, whether the CPU level up, changing turbo ratios on the extreme tweakers page of the bios, nor in the CPU power management, can I get the results i am looking to achieve. What is happening is that i either get full on overclock without speed step being active, so that the OC is always on. On the flip side if I change the turbo cores and set the top one to 40, I get into windows to find it running locked at 3.8ghz. I used to think I knew what i was doing with overclocking but this board is about to make me rip my hair out. Been playing with it for about a week, and while a locked OC is fine for some, I would like to figure out how to set the OC and keep speed step active. Any help is appreciated on this! __________________ Hers: ASUS Maximus V Gene / i7 3770K / Swiftech H220 / 4X8GB Corsair Dominators / ASUS GTX660 / Corsair AX-760 / Windows 7 64bit / Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 Test: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 / i7 2600K / A lot Of Coolers / Ripjaws Currently / HIS HD7950 IceQ Turbo / Silverstone SST-ST85F-G / Windows 7 64bit / InWin D-Frame Limited Edition

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Nov 12, 2012, 10:47 PM	#3
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Nov 12, 2012, 10:48 PM	#4
sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 19,025 (7.31/day) Thanks: 3,042 Thanked 5,488 Times in 3,951 Posts System Specs	I was thinking about that, but their forums seem a little lame to me, I figured I would pick brains here first, someone has to own this board. __________________ Hers: ASUS Maximus V Gene / i7 3770K / Swiftech H220 / 4X8GB Corsair Dominators / ASUS GTX660 / Corsair AX-760 / Windows 7 64bit / Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 Test: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 / i7 2600K / A lot Of Coolers / Ripjaws Currently / HIS HD7950 IceQ Turbo / Silverstone SST-ST85F-G / Windows 7 64bit / InWin D-Frame Limited Edition

Nov 12, 2012, 10:39 PM	#2
AthlonX2 Better Than You Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo,Ohio Posts: 5,449 (2.24/day) Thanks: 730 Thanked 1,572 Times in 994 Posts System Specs	I think this mobo is to leet for TPU.

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drdeathx Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 1,519 (1.03/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 336 Times in 276 Posts System Specs	Post screen shots of the bios

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erocker Senior Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 31,962 (12.77/day) Thanks: 2,793 Thanked 12,322 Times in 7,833 Posts System Specs	Not sure if The Extreme's bios is much different from the Formula, but here's a link to my bios settings: http://s403.beta.photobucket.com/use...mus%20V%20Bios

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Nov 13, 2012, 12:49 AM	#8
sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 19,025 (7.31/day) Thanks: 3,042 Thanked 5,488 Times in 3,951 Posts System Specs	I ended up with 1.3V running 4.5GHz and was able to keep the memory stable at 2600Mhz with speed step moving. I think I am good with this for now __________________ Hers: ASUS Maximus V Gene / i7 3770K / Swiftech H220 / 4X8GB Corsair Dominators / ASUS GTX660 / Corsair AX-760 / Windows 7 64bit / Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 Test: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 / i7 2600K / A lot Of Coolers / Ripjaws Currently / HIS HD7950 IceQ Turbo / Silverstone SST-ST85F-G / Windows 7 64bit / InWin D-Frame Limited Edition

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sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 19,025 (7.31/day) Thanks: 3,042 Thanked 5,488 Times in 3,951 Posts System Specs	This is all I changed... __________________ Hers: ASUS Maximus V Gene / i7 3770K / Swiftech H220 / 4X8GB Corsair Dominators / ASUS GTX660 / Corsair AX-760 / Windows 7 64bit / Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 Test: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 / i7 2600K / A lot Of Coolers / Ripjaws Currently / HIS HD7950 IceQ Turbo / Silverstone SST-ST85F-G / Windows 7 64bit / InWin D-Frame Limited Edition

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drdeathx Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 1,519 (1.03/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 336 Times in 276 Posts System Specs	See if you can get 1T on the command rate. If not back the frequency down to 2400MHz at lower timings with 1T for command rte and memory will perform a bit better. Maybe 9/10/10/28/1T @2400Mhz. Looks like you have it now. It has been a while since I farted with Asus Bios

Nov 13, 2012, 04:01 AM	#12
sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 19,025 (7.31/day) Thanks: 3,042 Thanked 5,488 Times in 3,951 Posts System Specs	1T runs fine, but I didnt get 2666mhz memory to run 2400 __________________ Hers: ASUS Maximus V Gene / i7 3770K / Swiftech H220 / 4X8GB Corsair Dominators / ASUS GTX660 / Corsair AX-760 / Windows 7 64bit / Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 Test: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 / i7 2600K / A lot Of Coolers / Ripjaws Currently / HIS HD7950 IceQ Turbo / Silverstone SST-ST85F-G / Windows 7 64bit / InWin D-Frame Limited Edition

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erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.88/day) Thanks: 711 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	Hi, M5E here! At least I always get throttling of multiplier with EPU ON in BIOS and then, at windows level, of the 3 EPU profiles only "Energy saving" was throttling (auto and Performance, not). Good luck. __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

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erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.88/day) Thanks: 711 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	my 2500K runs in the 50-60º celcius during Aida64 stress tests, at 4400 Mhz, and 1,36 volt.... __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Nov 21, 2012, 01:41 PM	#19
mediasorcerer Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: coast ,melbourne Posts: 942 (1.52/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 235 Times in 169 Posts System Specs	Thanx for posting those screen shots, very helpful actually. Mine seems to be pretty stable @ 4.6 atm.-1.330 cpu voltage, think that's too high? Did you drop the vccio voltage from 1.67700 to 1.65000 ? There are updates on the asus website for ai suite, game first, and bios. __________________ his masters voice Illuminous Epanoia Technocrati Last edited by mediasorcerer; Nov 21, 2012 at 02:10 PM.

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sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 19,025 (7.31/day) Thanks: 3,042 Thanked 5,488 Times in 3,951 Posts System Specs	bios newer than the 1307? Edit: just looked 1408, will have to give it a try. __________________ Hers: ASUS Maximus V Gene / i7 3770K / Swiftech H220 / 4X8GB Corsair Dominators / ASUS GTX660 / Corsair AX-760 / Windows 7 64bit / Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 Test: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 / i7 2600K / A lot Of Coolers / Ripjaws Currently / HIS HD7950 IceQ Turbo / Silverstone SST-ST85F-G / Windows 7 64bit / InWin D-Frame Limited Edition

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cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,795 (4.15/day) Thanks: 4,510 Thanked 5,253 Times in 3,222 Posts System Specs	Meh. I run 0.95V on VCCSA, and 1.05V on VCCIO @ 4x4 GB 2666 MHz memory. Hynix or Samsung doesn't matter. It just took a few sub-timing changes to get it working right, but that's all. Don't flash 1408!!!! DO NOT!!! Attached Thumbnails __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way.

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Nov 21, 2012, 03:21 PM	#23
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.88/day) Thanks: 711 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	Your carpet is so old fashioned! LOL (But hardware not... hehehehe) Great thread, thanks all. BTW; yes, Asus increases set voltages like a bitch... So you have to fool them in the BIOS __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Nov 21, 2012, 03:29 PM	#25
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.88/day) Thanks: 711 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	OHHOHHOOOO! That creates the VERY decisive question: when you update BIOS, it updates only the active CHIP of the TWO CHIPS? Right now I am unaware of what I did when I updated the BIOS. Theorically, I could be using an age old one, as I switched somewhere in the process.... checking.... __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

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