Super Budget Build - Pro's, come help!

tecster · Nov 25, 2012, 05:17 PM

Alright so I have some "friends" who said they were "pc builders"... once was supposed to have m a list of parts before Cyber Monday (in hopes to get them on sale), well he's not coming through so I turn to you folks and I hope you can help. I'm not looking for the biggest and the best... below are my needs and wants... all while staying around $4-500 - the cheaper the better, I'm trying to buy a house!

Needs

- Every part except RAM, I have 16gigs of DDR3 - only catch is I need 4 RAM slots...

- Run GTA:IV and GTA:V along with other FPS Games, none needing to be ran at 110%

- Windows 7 CD-Key... I have a system builder disk, not sure if I can make it work cause I have it on my MacBook (DON'T CRINGE PLEASE!)

Wants

- Tiny in size, a small compact - shuttle pc size would be awesome!

- high quality parts, low price! - Good luck right?

- Monitor would be nice...nothing crazy big.

Thanks in advance, any questions please feel free to ask!

[Ion] · Nov 25, 2012, 05:22 PM

Do you absolutely need all 16GB of RAM? If not, you could build an ITX setup that would be tiny--but the catch is, ITX boards only have two RAM slots. Otherwise, you'd have to go uATX--which is still small, just not tiny.

tecster · Nov 25, 2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by [Ion]

Do you absolutely need all 16GB of RAM? If not, you could build an ITX setup that would be tiny--but the catch is, ITX boards only have two RAM slots. Otherwise, you'd have to go uATX--which is still small, just not tiny.

Only reason I would NEED 4 slots is to run all 16gigs that I have, I don't know how much that will impact my gaming and such?

I've seen some of these mini iTX cases... I'd love to have something that small.

[Ion] · Nov 25, 2012, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tecster

Only reason I would NEED 4 slots is to run all 16gigs that I have, I don't know how much that will impact my gaming and such?

I've seen some of these mini iTX cases... I'd love to have something that small.

I think you'd be fine with 8GB. I have 8GB in my systems and I've never run out--usually during games with a bunch of stuff running in the background, usage is ~3-5GB.
Here's what I've thrown together:

You'll still need an LCD, but that's an area where I'm not too qualified. A SSD would be nice, but unfortunately wouldn't fit in the budget

Norton · Nov 25, 2012, 05:52 PM

If you are willing to go mATX I would suggest building around this AMD APU combo (A8-5600K w/Asrock A75 mobo- $155):

Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

tecster · Nov 25, 2012, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Ion]

I think you'd be fine with 8GB. I have 8GB in my systems and I've never run out--usually during games with a bunch of stuff running in the background, usage is ~3-5GB.
Here's what I've thrown together:
http://img.techpowerup.org/121125/rig.png

You'll still need an LCD, but that's an area where I'm not too qualified. A SSD would be nice, but unfortunately wouldn't fit in the budget

I'm a penny pincher, is that case required? Did you select if for any particular reason, I mean - if it doesn't come with a PSU then why not go with something like this APEX Mini ITX?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norton

If you are willing to go mATX I would suggest building around this AMD APU combo (A8-5600K w/Asrock Extreme4 mobo- $155):

Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

I'm more comfortable with a AMD platform, my old midtower had AMD and that's what I like... I'm not opposed to any options, but if we can go AMD that's great.

[Ion] · Nov 25, 2012, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tecster

I'm a penny pincher, is that case required? Did you select if for any particular reason, I mean - if it doesn't come with a PSU then why not go with something like this APEX Mini ITX?

I'm more comfortable with a AMD platform, my old midtower had AMD and that's what I like... I'm not opposed to any options, but if we can go AMD that's great.

That Apex case only has a single slot for a GPU and a PSU that I would be very worried about using. There are other alternatives--but the Elite 120 I posted was what jumped to mind.

Norton's APU suggestion is solid. You'd have to go with a mATX case, unfortunately, but if you get a small one (such as the Fractal Design Core 1000) it wouldn't be much bigger.

cdawall · Nov 25, 2012, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tecster

I'm a penny pincher, is that case required? Did you select if for any particular reason, I mean - if it doesn't come with a PSU then why not go with something like this APEX Mini ITX?

That case is garbage. The powersupply inside of that case also garbage. I had one it got tossed in the bin.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tecster

I'm more comfortable with a AMD platform, my old midtower had AMD and that's what I like... I'm not opposed to any options, but if we can go AMD that's great.

He linked you to an AMD setup. The APU linked is a piledriver CPU+VLIW5 based GPU. Let me log into the lappy top i'll update with a good build for everyone.

tecster · Nov 25, 2012, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Ion]

That Apex case only has a single slot for a GPU and a PSU that I would be very worried about using. There are other alternatives--but the Elite 120 I posted was what jumped to mind.

Norton's APU suggestion is solid. You'd have to go with a mATX case, unfortunately, but if you get a small one (such as the Fractal Design Core 1000) it wouldn't be much bigger.

What's the difference between an Micro-ITX case and a mATX case?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

That case is garbage. The powersupply inside of that case also garbage. I had one it got tossed in the bin.

He linked you to an AMD setup. The APU linked is a piledriver CPU+VLIW5 based GPU. Let me log into the lappy top i'll update with a good build for everyone.

I was more or less thinking using the case, dumping the PSU but if it only has one GPU slot that sucks. I know he linked me a AMD that's why I had made that statement. I look forward to your post.

Norton · Nov 25, 2012, 06:11 PM

About $390 w/A8-5600k APU, small mATX case, psu, and Windows 7:

*note- the board I linked to above and in here has 4 memory slots sorry this board only has 2 slots... 4 slot mATX boards are available for a few more $$$

tecster · Nov 25, 2012, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norton

About $390 w/A8-5600k APU, small mATX case, psu, and Windows 7:

http://img.techpowerup.org/121125/combo1125.jpg

*note- the board I linked to above and in here has 4 memory slots sorry this board only has 2 slots... 4 slot mATX boards are available for a few more $$$

Would I have a decent amount of video FPS in GTA:IV & GTA:V? I also would be interested in getting Assassins Creed, and a few other first person shooters.

I also noticed Norton... No video card?

cdawall · Nov 25, 2012, 06:26 PM

Fractal Design Core 1000
PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 500W
A10-5800K+GIGABYTE GA-F2A75M-D3H
SAMSUNG DVD Burner
Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB HDD
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6670 1GB
XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283

There you go motherboard supports 4 dimm slots, included the video card for hybrid crossfire and a good cooler for overclocking. $459.93 before MIR's, but the parts listed have another $35 worth of MIR available. If you played with a budget some you could stuff an SSD in there for the OS/Games drive.

[Ion] · Nov 25, 2012, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tecster

Would I have a decent amount of video FPS in GTA:IV & GTA:V? I also would be interested in getting Assassins Creed, and a few other first person shooters.

I also noticed Norton... No video card?

Norton configured a system with an AMD APU, which consists of a CPU and a GPU fused together. It's actually very powerful compared to most other integrated graphics setups

tecster · Nov 25, 2012, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Ion]

Norton configured a system with an AMD APU, which consists of a CPU and a GPU fused together. It's actually very powerful compared to most other integrated graphics setups

Sorry about that, I'm not used to being able to have an integrated graphics system that is powerful enough to support gaming... That must have changed recently? I was brought up on the computer era where onboard is bad bad bad news. Is this upgradable in the future, to put a standalone video card in there?

[Ion] · Nov 25, 2012, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tecster

Sorry about that, I'm not used to being able to have an integrated graphics system that is powerful enough to support gaming... That must have changed recently? I was brought up on the computer era where onboard is bad bad bad news. Is this upgradable in the future, to put a standalone video card in there?

Indeed. cdawall's setup is using a combination of the onboard GPU and a discrete video card in "hybrid crossfire" for better performance>

It's also possible to put a high-end dGPU not in Crossfire in later on.

cdawall · Nov 25, 2012, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tecster

Sorry about that, I'm not used to being able to have an integrated graphics system that is powerful enough to support gaming... That must have changed recently? I was brought up on the computer era where onboard is bad bad bad news. Is this upgradable in the future, to put a standalone video card in there?

Its roughly as fast as a 6670 and supports crossfire with a 6670 which is why I included those in my build.

tecster · Nov 25, 2012, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Ion]

Indeed. cdawall's setup is using a combination of the onboard GPU and a discrete video card in "hybrid crossfire" for better performance>

It's also possible to put a high-end dGPU not in Crossfire in later on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

Its roughly as fast as a 6670 and supports crossfire with a 6670 which is why I included those in my build.

So I should be okay to get decent graphics with the integrated setup?

cdawall · Nov 25, 2012, 06:51 PM

Decent I would buy the $50 6670 while I was ordering the whole thing tho.

tecster · Nov 25, 2012, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

Fractal Design Core 1000
PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 500W
A10-5800K+GIGABYTE GA-F2A75M-D3H
SAMSUNG DVD Burner
Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB HDD
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6670 1GB
XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283

There you go motherboard supports 4 dimm slots, included the video card for hybrid crossfire and a good cooler for overclocking. $459.93 before MIR's, but the parts listed have another $35 worth of MIR available. If you played with a budget some you could stuff an SSD in there for the OS/Games drive.

I could pinch a few pennies by going to a 500g or so hd, i wont be putting my on it besides games.

cdawall · Nov 25, 2012, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tecster

I could pinch a few pennies by going to a 500g or so hd, i wont be putting my on it besides games.

Its one of the cheapestdrives on the egg right now $70 for 2tb is unbeatable. If you don't mind a smaller drive with the harddrive and get a 256GB ssd.

tecster · Nov 25, 2012, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

Its one of the cheapestdrives on the egg right now $70 for 2tb is unbeatable.

I actually said that before looking...good find.

m&m's · Nov 25, 2012, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

Fractal Design Core 1000
PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 500W
A10-5800K+GIGABYTE GA-F2A75M-D3H
SAMSUNG DVD Burner
Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB HDD
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6670 1GB
XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283

There you go motherboard supports 4 dimm slots, included the video card for hybrid crossfire and a good cooler for overclocking. $459.93 before MIR's, but the parts listed have another $35 worth of MIR available. If you played with a budget some you could stuff an SSD in there for the OS/Games drive.

Change the video card for this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102950

The one I suggest you use GDDR5 instead of DDR3 witch is a most with dual graphics.

tecster · Nov 25, 2012, 07:01 PM

How's this compared to the Sapphire? EVGA 01G-P3-N988-TR GeForce 9800 GT HDMI 1GB 256-b...

cdawall · Nov 25, 2012, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tecster

How's this compared to the Sapphire? EVGA 01G-P3-N988-TR GeForce 9800 GT HDMI 1GB 256-b...

Wrong brand for the dual graphics to work it has to be a 6670/6650.

xBruce88x · Nov 25, 2012, 07:06 PM

Maybe its best to wait until its actually cyber monday... since that's when the price deals will actually be in effect.

the apu build seems solid though... forget the 9800gt. I have an 8800gt and while its a nice card for its time (btw the 9800gt is pretty much the same) it is showing its age. with the apu build you'd have a little more gpu power at less wattage. that 6670 would crossfire with the apu's gpu so you'd still get pretty decent gaming performance and DX11

Nov 25, 2012, 05:17 PM	#1
tecster Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 19 (0.03/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Super Budget Build - Pro's, come help! Alright so I have some "friends" who said they were "pc builders"... once was supposed to have m a list of parts before Cyber Monday (in hopes to get them on sale), well he's not coming through so I turn to you folks and I hope you can help. I'm not looking for the biggest and the best... below are my needs and wants... all while staying around $4-500 - the cheaper the better, I'm trying to buy a house! Needs - Every part except RAM, I have 16gigs of DDR3 - only catch is I need 4 RAM slots... - Run GTA:IV and GTA:V along with other FPS Games, none needing to be ran at 110% - Windows 7 CD-Key... I have a system builder disk, not sure if I can make it work cause I have it on my MacBook (DON'T CRINGE PLEASE!) Wants - Tiny in size, a small compact - shuttle pc size would be awesome! - high quality parts, low price! - Good luck right? - Monitor would be nice...nothing crazy big. Thanks in advance, any questions please feel free to ask!

Nov 25, 2012, 05:22 PM	#2
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Nov 25, 2012, 05:52 PM	#5
Norton WCG Team Assistant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northeast, USA Posts: 5,183 (9.95/day) Thanks: 5,423 Thanked 10,167 Times in 3,197 Posts System Specs	If you are willing to go mATX I would suggest building around this AMD APU combo (A8-5600K w/Asrock A75 mobo- $155): Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L... __________________ *Why sit on the Bench* when you can get in the game and Crunch!!!- World Community Grid (FTW) CPU crunchers- FX-8350(4.4)/FX-8150(4.0)/FX-6200(4.0)/ PII 1045T/PII 1045T/i7-920/Xeon (6c/12t)....(44 cores/54 threads) GPU crunchers- no WCG GPU work available Folding@Home- 2x GTX 580's WCG-TPU Team thread- crunch for our Team/see what we do...** Last edited by Norton; Nov 25, 2012 at 06:22 PM. Reason: correct mobo model

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Video Card:	HD 7870/8400GS/IGP/7770/HD 7870/3x HD 7770's
Hard Disk:	2xWD 640(Blue)/WD 80/WD 160/WD 320 (2.5")/WD 160(2.5")/WD VR 150GB/WD 320
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Benchmarks:	Why sit on the Bench when you can get in the game and Crunch!!!

System Name:	Deployment build
Processor:	Phenom II B97@4080mhz 1.6v (24/7 4800mhz max clock)
Motherboard:	Asus Crosshair V Formula
Cooling:	Coolermaster V10 modded to 96w TEC, Scientific Rulian fans
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Nov 25, 2012, 06:11 PM	#10
Norton WCG Team Assistant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northeast, USA Posts: 5,183 (9.95/day) Thanks: 5,423 Thanked 10,167 Times in 3,197 Posts System Specs	About $390 w/A8-5600k APU, small mATX case, psu, and Windows 7: note- the board I linked to above and in here has 4 memory slots sorry this board only has 2 slots... 4 slot mATX boards are available for a few more $$$ __________________ Why sit on the Bench* when you can get in the game and Crunch!!!- World Community Grid (FTW) CPU crunchers- FX-8350(4.4)/FX-8150(4.0)/FX-6200(4.0)/ PII 1045T/PII 1045T/i7-920/Xeon (6c/12t)....(44 cores/54 threads) GPU crunchers- no WCG GPU work available Folding@Home- 2x GTX 580's WCG-TPU Team thread- crunch for our Team/see what we do...**

Nov 25, 2012, 06:26 PM	#12
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,027 (6.42/day) Thanks: 457 Thanked 2,755 Times in 2,224 Posts System Specs	Fractal Design Core 1000 PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 500W A10-5800K+GIGABYTE GA-F2A75M-D3H SAMSUNG DVD Burner Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB HDD SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6670 1GB XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283 There you go motherboard supports 4 dimm slots, included the video card for hybrid crossfire and a good cooler for overclocking. $459.93 before MIR's, but the parts listed have another $35 worth of MIR available. If you played with a budget some you could stuff an SSD in there for the OS/Games drive. __________________

Nov 25, 2012, 06:51 PM	#18
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,027 (6.42/day) Thanks: 457 Thanked 2,755 Times in 2,224 Posts System Specs	Decent I would buy the $50 6670 while I was ordering the whole thing tho. __________________

Nov 25, 2012, 07:01 PM	#23
tecster Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 19 (0.03/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	How's this compared to the Sapphire? EVGA 01G-P3-N988-TR GeForce 9800 GT HDMI 1GB 256-b...

Nov 25, 2012, 07:06 PM	#25
xBruce88x Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Winder, GA, USA Posts: 2,218 (1.70/day) Thanks: 652 Thanked 506 Times in 401 Posts System Specs	Maybe its best to wait until its actually cyber monday... since that's when the price deals will actually be in effect. the apu build seems solid though... forget the 9800gt. I have an 8800gt and while its a nice card for its time (btw the 9800gt is pretty much the same) it is showing its age. with the apu build you'd have a little more gpu power at less wattage. that 6670 would crossfire with the apu's gpu so you'd still get pretty decent gaming performance and DX11 __________________

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