Motherboard wont post on reboot

jgunning · Nov 25, 2012, 09:01 PM

Ok,

So new question! =)

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P4M890.../?div=Overview

That is the motherboard.
Cpu is a dual core 2.3ghz, with an ati 9600gt, 2gb RAM

Problem: Turn the PC on - post fine. Use to button to reboot on the face of the machine posts fine, if i use restart in windows to reboot, shuts down then upon reboot it doesnt post?!
Then I just hit restart button on my box and it reboots and posts again?!

So it only doesnt post when i use restart in windows. Even like after windows update, and hit "restart now" it shuts down then doesnt post when it reboots until i do a hard reset via the button on the front..

ideas..?!

Bios is latest version, updated all drivers. Cleared cmos..googled it with no luck so far..So im at a loose end.

Cheers guys

Law-II · Nov 25, 2012, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgunning

2gb RAM

Hi

What ram is it? brand and model number

nb: option 1 could try this, power down; remove ram; clean the blades with coffee filter and isopropyl alcohol; use air duster on DIMM slots [or skip to option 2] and then option 2 *reseat the memory modules

atb (all the best)

Law-II

jgunning · Nov 25, 2012, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Law-II

Hi

What ram is it? brand and model number

nb: option 1 could try this, power down; remove ram; clean the blades with coffee filter and isopropyl alcohol; use air duster on DIMM slots [or skip to option 2] and then option 2 *reseat the memory modules

atb (all the best)

Law-II

Note sure on the model of the ram, I will check when i get home from work

I have already cleaned the ram and all other components for that reason. and I have already reseated the modules.. =\

I am at a loose end!Cant find an answer?!Any other ideas anyone...?

Law-II · Nov 25, 2012, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgunning

Note sure on the model of the ram, I will check when i get home from work

I have already cleaned the ram and all other components for that reason. and I have already reseated the modules.. =\

I am at a loose end!Cant find an answer?!Any other ideas anyone...?

Hi

You could try - If you havent already; run scandisk on your hdd and swap the hdd cable out

atb

Law-II

jgunning · Nov 25, 2012, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Law-II

Hi

You could try - If you havent already; run scandisk on your hdd and swap the hdd cable out

atb

Law-II

You think that could stop it posting on reboot..? I havent done that but I am open to all suggestions.I will try that and report back tonight

drdeathx · Nov 25, 2012, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgunning

You think that could stop it posting on reboot..? I havent done that but I am open to all suggestions.I will try that and report back tonight

Yes, that happened to me but did you do a fresh install of windows?

Iceni · Nov 25, 2012, 11:09 PM

Might be the PSU not cycling fast enough for the software reboot.

Hardware reboot, Hit the button, caps drain, Hit the power on button. (true power cycling).

Software reboot, Windows dies and the motherboard instantly restarts before the caps have drained. Effect the motherboard sends the signal to the PSU, but the PSU is not ready to respond. It could equally be the SMPS circuits on the PSU playing up.

You could test it with a different PSU and see if the problem vanishes. Or put that PSU in another machine and see if you can recreate the problem.

jgunning · Nov 25, 2012, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

Yes, that happened to me but did you do a fresh install of windows?

Really..?Yes It is a brand new fresh install with the problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceni

Might be the PSU not cycling fast enough for the software reboot.

Hardware reboot, Hit the button, caps drain, Hit the power on button.

Software reboot, Windows dies and the motherboard instantly restarts before the caps have drained. Effect the motherboard sends the signal to the PSU, but the PSU is not ready to respond.

You could test it with a different PSU and see if the problem vanishes.

And I have already tried different psu and gpu. =\

There has to be a logical explanation as to why this computer does this?!

jgunning · Nov 25, 2012, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceni

Might be the PSU not cycling fast enough for the software reboot.

Hardware reboot, Hit the button, caps drain, Hit the power on button. (true power cycling).

Software reboot, Windows dies and the motherboard instantly restarts before the caps have drained. Effect the motherboard sends the signal to the PSU, but the PSU is not ready to respond. It could equally be the SMPS circuits on the PSU playing up.

You could test it with a different PSU and see if the problem vanishes. Or put that PSU in another machine and see if you can recreate the problem.

I havent tried that psu in a different system. But have swapped psu's in that system and the problem remains.I have a feeling it is something to do with the motherboard.I havent swapped the ram because I dont have any to replace it with - because its old.But have swapped psu's and gpu's, I have re-seated the ram modules, done a fresh install of windows..sooo lost!

Iceni · Nov 25, 2012, 11:38 PM

If you've already done all of the above and your still having problems you might want to start thinking about a full strip down and rebuild.

When you do the rebuild make sure everything is 100%, all motherboard risers in place (might be a slow grounding issue), CPU clean, New TIM, Backplate properly in place, Sata connectors in solid, ect ect.

If it still presents a problem after that the only solution I can think of is always doing a cold shutdown instead of restarts. The pc is running so it's not something that's overly bad, just annoying.

jgunning · Nov 25, 2012, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceni

If you've already done all of the above and your still having problems you might want to start thinking about a full strip down and rebuild.

When you do the rebuild make sure everything is 100%, all motherboard risers in place (might be a slow grounding issue), CPU clean, New TIM, Backplate properly in place, Sata connectors in solid, ect ect.

If it still presents a problem after that the only solution I can think of is always doing a cold shutdown instead of restarts. The pc is running so it's not something that's overly bad, just annoying.

Yea I think thats probably worth doing.

That is right though, it isnt a major issue.It just is frutrating.lol!

Cheers

drdeathx · Nov 26, 2012, 02:51 AM

Try a friends hard drive

jgunning · Nov 26, 2012, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

Try a friends hard drive

I have heaps of hard drives at home.You think that might make a difference..?

drdeathx · Nov 26, 2012, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgunning

I have heaps of hard drives at home.You think that might make a difference..?

This will elimnate if the drive is bad.

itsakjt · Nov 26, 2012, 04:39 PM

Your CPU may be overheating. I had this problem once on my Pentium 4. I mounted the cooler incorrectly causing it to operate at 90 degree C. If I restarted from Windows, it wont POST. I suspect to be the cache memory not clearing up fully due to high temperature. Check temps. Use HWMonitor.

jgunning · Nov 26, 2012, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

This will elimnate if the drive is bad.

Ok will check.

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsakjt

Your CPU may be overheating. I had this problem once on my Pentium 4. I mounted the cooler incorrectly causing it to operate at 90 degree C. If I restarted from Windows, it wont POST. I suspect to be the cache memory not clearing up fully due to high temperature. Check temps. Use HWMonitor.

And thanks, I had already had that exact thought and checked my temps.And all is fine..

Nov 25, 2012, 09:01 PM	#1
jgunning Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 309 (0.88/day) Thanks: 380 Thanked 81 Times in 58 Posts System Specs	Motherboard wont post on reboot Ok, So new question! =) http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P4M890.../?div=Overview That is the motherboard. Cpu is a dual core 2.3ghz, with an ati 9600gt, 2gb RAM Problem: Turn the PC on - post fine. Use to button to reboot on the face of the machine posts fine, if i use restart in windows to reboot, shuts down then upon reboot it doesnt post?! Then I just hit restart button on my box and it reboots and posts again?! So it only doesnt post when i use restart in windows. Even like after windows update, and hit "restart now" it shuts down then doesnt post when it reboots until i do a hard reset via the button on the front.. ideas..?! Bios is latest version, updated all drivers. Cleared cmos..googled it with no luck so far..So im at a loose end. Cheers guys

Processor:	FX 6100 Six-Core Black Edition, 3.20GHz
Motherboard:	Asus M5A97-EVO
Cooling:	Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo,4x120mm Corsair Fans
Memory:	Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 9-9-9-24 1600mhz
Video Card:	Sapphire ATI HD 7870XT Edition 2GB 256-bit DDR5
Hard Disk:	128GB OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (OS)WD Green 1TB x2(storage),
Optical Drive:	LG
CRT/LCD Model:	LG 24" LED
Case:	Corsair obsidian 550D
PSU:	FSP 700W
Software:	Windows 7 Pro x64

System Name:	H2o Box
Processor:	Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 975 @ 4200 Mhz
Motherboard:	Asus Rampage II Extreme x58
Cooling:	Dual Loop CPU & GPU H2o
Memory:	Gskill RipjawsZ 16Gb 9-10-9-28 2T @ 2021Mhz
Video Card:	XFX 5970 Black Edition H2o 880 Core 1250 Mem
Hard Disk:	Kingston 64Gb SSD Seagate 7200rpm
Optical Drive:	LiteON
CRT/LCD Model:	Panasonic GT30 46'' 1080p 3D HDTV
Case:	Corsair O-800D
Sound Card:	Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro
PSU:	Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 1200w
Software:	Win 7 64Bit

Processor:	FX 6100 Six-Core Black Edition, 3.20GHz
Motherboard:	Asus M5A97-EVO
Cooling:	Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo,4x120mm Corsair Fans
Memory:	Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 9-9-9-24 1600mhz
Video Card:	Sapphire ATI HD 7870XT Edition 2GB 256-bit DDR5
Hard Disk:	128GB OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (OS)WD Green 1TB x2(storage),
Optical Drive:	LG
CRT/LCD Model:	LG 24" LED
Case:	Corsair obsidian 550D
PSU:	FSP 700W
Software:	Windows 7 Pro x64

System Name:	H2o Box
Processor:	Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 975 @ 4200 Mhz
Motherboard:	Asus Rampage II Extreme x58
Cooling:	Dual Loop CPU & GPU H2o
Memory:	Gskill RipjawsZ 16Gb 9-10-9-28 2T @ 2021Mhz
Video Card:	XFX 5970 Black Edition H2o 880 Core 1250 Mem
Hard Disk:	Kingston 64Gb SSD Seagate 7200rpm
Optical Drive:	LiteON
CRT/LCD Model:	Panasonic GT30 46'' 1080p 3D HDTV
Case:	Corsair O-800D
Sound Card:	Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro
PSU:	Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 1200w
Software:	Win 7 64Bit

System Name:	Halloween Boo!
Processor:	Intel Core i7 3770K
Motherboard:	Gigabyte Z77-Up7
Cooling:	Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240
Memory:	16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz
Video Card:	3 x Radeon 7970
Hard Disk:	OCZ Revo Drive 240G
Optical Drive:	Asus
CRT/LCD Model:	24 inch Viewsonic
Case:	Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench
PSU:	Nexus 1100 watt

Nov 25, 2012, 11:09 PM	#7
Iceni Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: coventry UK Posts: 336 (0.42/day) Thanks: 26 Thanked 83 Times in 67 Posts System Specs	Might be the PSU not cycling fast enough for the software reboot. Hardware reboot, Hit the button, caps drain, Hit the power on button. (true power cycling). Software reboot, Windows dies and the motherboard instantly restarts before the caps have drained. Effect the motherboard sends the signal to the PSU, but the PSU is not ready to respond. It could equally be the SMPS circuits on the PSU playing up. You could test it with a different PSU and see if the problem vanishes. Or put that PSU in another machine and see if you can recreate the problem. Last edited by Iceni; Nov 25, 2012 at 11:25 PM.

System Name:	Gwafwar
Processor:	i5 2500K
Motherboard:	Msi p67a gd45
Cooling:	EK H30 HF240
Memory:	4Gb 2x2gb corsair vengence 1600 999-24
Video Card:	sapphire HD6950 Bios tweaked shaders.
Hard Disk:	1TB 2x500Gb mirror 2x500Gb mirror
Optical Drive:	LG generic 16X DVDRW+-
CRT/LCD Model:	HannsG HZ2211
Case:	Coolermaster 690 II pure black
Sound Card:	onboard
PSU:	FSP 80+bronze 800W
Software:	Win7 ultimate 64,

Nov 25, 2012, 11:38 PM	#10
Iceni Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: coventry UK Posts: 336 (0.42/day) Thanks: 26 Thanked 83 Times in 67 Posts System Specs	If you've already done all of the above and your still having problems you might want to start thinking about a full strip down and rebuild. When you do the rebuild make sure everything is 100%, all motherboard risers in place (might be a slow grounding issue), CPU clean, New TIM, Backplate properly in place, Sata connectors in solid, ect ect. If it still presents a problem after that the only solution I can think of is always doing a cold shutdown instead of restarts. The pc is running so it's not something that's overly bad, just annoying.

Nov 26, 2012, 02:51 AM	#12
drdeathx Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 1,770 (1.18/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 405 Times in 326 Posts System Specs	Try a friends hard drive

Nov 26, 2012, 04:39 PM	#15
itsakjt Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 450 (0.46/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 109 Times in 79 Posts System Specs	Your CPU may be overheating. I had this problem once on my Pentium 4. I mounted the cooler incorrectly causing it to operate at 90 degree C. If I restarted from Windows, it wont POST. I suspect to be the cache memory not clearing up fully due to high temperature. Check temps. Use HWMonitor.

System Name:	Phenom
Processor:	AMD Phenom II X4 955 running at 3.833 GHz 1.3375V and NB at 2.847 GHz 1.3125V 24*7 LLC on
Motherboard:	Asus M4A88TD-M EVO/USB3
Cooling:	Stock AMD copper base 4 heatpipe cooler
Memory:	2*2 GB Kingston DDR3 1333 MHz RAM running at 1752 MHz 8-9-8-24
Video Card:	Sapphire Radeon HD6770 1GB DDR5 copper base cooler-core 970MHz and mem 1295MHz
Hard Disk:	Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA II-WD10EARS-22Y5B1, Seagate 80 GB SATA I-ST380817AS
Optical Drive:	LG GH22N-S50
CRT/LCD Model:	LG-E2042TC 20" wide screen LCD-1600*900
Case:	I-Ball Grabit(somewhat uncommon but average case)
Sound Card:	Realtek ALC892 8 channel audio onboard
PSU:	Zebronics Platinum series 600W Power Supply
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate x64 sp1 with all latest updates
Benchmarks:	Intel Burn Test - 52 GFlops. 3D Mark Vantage - 12000+ 3D Mark 11 - 3080

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
fan wont fit on motherboard	innthe	Motherboards & Memory	23	Jan 10, 2011 07:22 PM
Change of CPU, windows installs devices, reboot, no post...	Zehnsucht	Motherboards & Memory	8	May 15, 2009 01:58 AM
motherboard problem, wont boot up os	ste2425	Motherboards & Memory	10	Jun 8, 2008 09:04 PM
abit LG-95 motherboard wont RUN	Irish_PXzyan	Motherboards & Memory	6	May 23, 2007 04:11 PM
Overclock Wont Stay after Reboot!!!!!!!	Rival Killa	ATITool	6	Aug 24, 2005 09:40 PM