Help with gaming PC build

[helpme]

I'm looking at putting together a gaming PC which can handle end games at good graphics
My budget is 2000 dollars but I do not require a monitor / keyboard / mouse / speakers / os

I need help because it is my first time doing this and I do not have a clue as to what is compatible with what.

Is 8 gb ram enough ? And will a nvidia gtx 660ti 2gb graphics card be enough to get me through high end gaming for the next few years.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated

[Novulux]

I'll assume you are from the United States.
What resolution is the monitor you plan on gaming on?
Yes, 8 GB of ram is enough for purely gaming.
While the GTX 660Ti is a good card, your budget looks like it'll provide for so much more, and I don't even know how to suggest a single card build that will make use of all of that.
Are you opposed to getting an GTX 690 or crossfire (2x) HD 7970s?

[silapakorn]

Frankly 660 will not be suffice for the next few years.
I use two 670s in SLI and some games start to demand more than these cards can handle, e.g. AC3 and Hitman. I'm talking about max setting at full HD and 60+ fps, no compromise though.

RAM should not be a problem, because they are cheap like hell. Last week I just put in another 8GB of RAM at a cost cheaper than my internet monthly fee.

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by helpme

I'm looking at putting together a gaming PC which can handle end games at good graphics
My budget is 2000 dollars but I do not require a monitor / keyboard / mouse / speakers / os

I need help because it is my first time doing this and I do not have a clue as to what is compatible with what.

Is 8 gb ram enough ? And will a nvidia gtx 660ti 2gb graphics card be enough to get me through high end gaming for the next few years.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated

with a 2000 budget you could get a GTX680 or HD7970.

Heres a good build:

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turb...
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UP4 TH LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SA...
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR...
GTX680: EVGA SuperClocked+ 02G-P4-2684-KR GeForce GTX 680 ...
or
HD7970: SAPPHIRE 100351SR Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5...
CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2...
For OS: SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB SATA...
For Games: Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB...
CPU Cooler: CORSAIR Hydro Series H80i Water Cooler

Ill let you chose a case. Any mid tower or full tower will do. Comes down to personal preference on the looks.

[cdawall]

For $2000 you can have one heck of a PC.

COOLER MASTER HAF 932
Rosewill LIGHTNING-1300
CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i
SAMSUNG 830 Series 128GB 2 of these
Seagate Barracuda STBD2000101 2TB
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz
Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) (2 of these)
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0
EVGA 04G-P4-2686-KR GeForce GTX 680 4GB

Comes out to $1855 total. I could probably play around with the case and SSD's to squeeze in a second GTX680 if you really wanted one.

Here you go comes out to $2075.89, but has $65 in rebates so almost $2000 on the nose!

COUGAR Evolution Black
Rosewill LIGHTNING-1300
CORSAIR Hydro Series H55
ADATA Premier Pro SP900 128GB
Seagate Barracuda STBD2000101 2TB
AMD FX-8320 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.0GHz Turbo)
Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) (2 of these)
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0
EVGA 04G-P4-2686-KR GeForce GTX 680 4GB (2 of these)

Had to drop down a model on the CPU, but considering both clock about the same not really any loss in that one. The ram chosen is Samsung HYK0 based which clocks quite well (2400+) and the Powersupply is recommended by JohnnyGuru as its a great unit built by SuperFlower.

[Caspase]

Originally Posted by cdawall

For $2000 you can have one heck of a PC.

COOLER MASTER HAF 932
Rosewill LIGHTNING-1300
CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i
SAMSUNG 830 Series 128GB 2 of these
Seagate Barracuda STBD2000101 2TB
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz
Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) (2 of these)
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0
EVGA 04G-P4-2686-KR GeForce GTX 680 4GB

Comes out to $1855 total. I could probably play around with the case and SSD's to squeeze in a second GTX680 if you really wanted one.

Here you go comes out to $2075.89, but has $65 in rebates so almost $2000 on the nose!

COUGAR Evolution Black
Rosewill LIGHTNING-1300
CORSAIR Hydro Series H55
ADATA Premier Pro SP900 128GB
Seagate Barracuda STBD2000101 2TB
AMD FX-8320 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.0GHz Turbo)
Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) (2 of these)
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0
EVGA 04G-P4-2686-KR GeForce GTX 680 4GB (2 of these)

Had to drop down a model on the CPU, but considering both clock about the same not really any loss in that one. The ram chosen is Samsung HYK0 based which clocks quite well (2400+) and the Powersupply is recommended by JohnnyGuru as its a great unit built by SuperFlower.

I wouldn't go AMD with a 2000 budget... For gaming at least. Why did you go with Vishera way?

[Jack1n]

Originally Posted by Caspase

I wouldn't go AMD with a 2000 budget... For gaming at least. Why did you go with Vishera way?

I agree he should get atleast a 3570k for that budget.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by Caspase

I wouldn't go AMD with a 2000 budget... For gaming at least. Why did you go with Vishera way?

The newer games are multithreaded a lot better than before bf3 in its own shows zero performance difference and from the looks of it crysis 3 will be the same. With the less expensive fx 8320 there is wiggle room to run a second GTX 680 which will make more of a realistic difference in games than a single GTX 680 and 3770k. I am sure you could play with an Intel build to get it to work but it's really simple with AMD.

I also would never recommend a 3570k over an fx 8320/50. Any game it shows a performance gain in shows he same gain with a highly clocked I3. Now I don't see any recommendation for an I3 in here so why recommend a cheapy quad core that isn't going to last with the new games coming out that are more and more multithreaded. Remember the new PlayStation is based off of a piledriver chip...don't think that won't influence game design...

[helpme]

Originally Posted by Novulux

I'll assume you are from the United States.
What resolution is the monitor you plan on gaming on?
Yes, 8 GB of ram is enough for purely gaming.
While the GTX 660Ti is a good card, your budget looks like it'll provide for so much more, and I don't even know how to suggest a single card build that will make use of all of that.
Are you opposed to getting an GTX 690 or crossfire (2x) HD 7970s?

I am from australia.
My current screen resolution is 1920 - 1080
What do you mean by pure gaming?
No, not opposed, I am open to all suggestions !

[ALMOSTunseen]

Originally Posted by helpme

I am from australia.
My current screen resolution is 1920 - 1080
What do you mean by pure gaming?
No, not opposed, I am open to all suggestions !

I would recommend you go with pccasegear.com
By pure gaming, he means it is enough if gaming is the thing you mainly want to focus on. If you are doing CAD, or rendering, you would want more.

[helpme]

Originally Posted by cdawall

For $2000 you can have one heck of a PC.

COOLER MASTER HAF 932
Rosewill LIGHTNING-1300
CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i
SAMSUNG 830 Series 128GB 2 of these
Seagate Barracuda STBD2000101 2TB
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz
Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) (2 of these)
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0
EVGA 04G-P4-2686-KR GeForce GTX 680 4GB

Comes out to $1855 total. I could probably play around with the case and SSD's to squeeze in a second GTX680 if you really wanted one.

Here you go comes out to $2075.89, but has $65 in rebates so almost $2000 on the nose!

COUGAR Evolution Black
Rosewill LIGHTNING-1300
CORSAIR Hydro Series H55
ADATA Premier Pro SP900 128GB
Seagate Barracuda STBD2000101 2TB
AMD FX-8320 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.0GHz Turbo)
Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) (2 of these)
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0
EVGA 04G-P4-2686-KR GeForce GTX 680 4GB (2 of these)

Had to drop down a model on the CPU, but considering both clock about the same not really any loss in that one. The ram chosen is Samsung HYK0 based which clocks quite well (2400+) and the Powersupply is recommended by JohnnyGuru as its a great unit built by SuperFlower.

Ive heard that two graphics cards can burden eachother. Any knowledge on this?

[Jack1n]

Originally Posted by cdawall

The newer games are multithreaded a lot better than before bf3 in its own shows zero performance difference and from the looks of it crysis 3 will be the same. With the less expensive fx 8320 there is wiggle room to run a second GTX 680 which will make more of a realistic difference in games than a single GTX 680 and 3770k. I am sure you could play with an Intel build to get it to work but it's really simple with AMD.

I also would never recommend a 3570k over an fx 8320/50. Any game it shows a performance gain in shows he same gain with a highly clocked I3. Now I don't see any recommendation for an I3 in here so why recommend a cheapy quad core that isn't going to last with the new games coming out that are more and more multithreaded. Remember the new PlayStation is based off of a piledriver chip...don't think that won't influence game design...

I strongly disagree,goings from a phenom 2 to an ivy bridge sky rocketed my FPS in BF3 even when the 3570k was clocked at stock speeds which puts it at the same clock speeds as the phenom.(saw no fps gain from overlocking since i only have one 7950)

[ALMOSTunseen]

Originally Posted by helpme

Ive heard that two graphics cards can burden eachother. Any knowledge on this?

Some games can have issues with dual Graphics cards, though not that many nowadays, they are ironing out most driver issues.

[helpme]

Would an Ivy Bridge Intel core i7 3770K3.5GHz Overclocked to 4.2-4.4 GHz be a good cpu and within my budget with some of the builds posted.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by helpme

Ive heard that two graphics cards can burden eachother. Any knowledge on this?

Nope. If a game lacks an sli profile you can force sli or disable it. They will never cause worse performance.

Originally Posted by Jack1n

I strongly disagree,goings from a phenom 2 to an ivy bridge sky rocketed my FPS in BF3 even when the 3570k was clocked at stock speeds which puts it at the same clock speeds as the phenom.(saw no fps gain from overlocking since i only have one 7950)

Well considering actual websites agree with me and have benchmarks showing the fx8350 outperforming the 3770k as well as 3570k I fail to see your point in plugging know the 100% different phenom II architecture.

[Caspase]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pLoU

2 graphic cards will make each other hotter as they throw hot air into the case, but that won't be a problem as long as you have decent cooling and air circulation.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by helpme

Would an Ivy Bridge Intel core i7 3770K3.5GHz Overclocked to 4.2-4.4 GHz be a good cpu and within my budget with some of the builds posted.

Anything is within your budget just depends what you do or don't want. I can tell you it will be next to impossible to pull off a rig with dual GTX 680's and one.I can also tell you the games that show a single GTX 680 and 3770k beating an fx 8320 and pair of GTX 680's are beyond few and far between.

[ALMOSTunseen]

Pc case gear does an awesome build. Just the parts list as an idea. http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...ducts_id=21422
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Motherboard
Graphics: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 2GB Overclocked 1137MHz
Memory: Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
Solid State Drive: SanDisk Extreme Solid State Drive 120GB
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB SATA DVDRW
Case: Corsair Graphite 600T Special Edition White Case
Power supply: Silverstone Strider Plus 750W ST75F-P

[Caspase]

Originally Posted by cdawall

Anything is within your budget just depends what you do or don't want. I can tell you it will be next to impossible to pull off a rig with dual GTX 680's and one.I can also tell you the games that show a single GTX 680 and 3770k beating an fx 8320 and pair of GTX 680's are beyond few and far between.

I made you a list with a i7-3770k and 2 gtx 670. The gtx 680 is a waste of money IMO, the gtx 670 is so close and the price difference is 100, 200 with SLI, so I'd go dual gtx 670 and i7-3770k.

[helpme]

Originally Posted by Caspase

I made you a list with a i7-3770k and 2 gtx 670. The gtx 680 is a waste of money IMO, the gtx 670 is so close and the price difference is 100, 200 with SLI, so I'd go dual gtx 670 and i7-3770k.

I didn't see that lol, I thought it was a reference site to your info about dual graphics cards. Thanks, great build.

Alot of different power wattages have been suggested (by everyone). What is a base power wattage I should look at?

[helpme]

Originally Posted by silapakorn

Frankly 660 will not be suffice for the next few years.
I use two 670s in SLI and some games start to demand more than these cards can handle, e.g. AC3 and Hitman. I'm talking about max setting at full HD and 60+ fps, no compromise though.

RAM should not be a problem, because they are cheap like hell. Last week I just put in another 8GB of RAM at a cost cheaper than my internet monthly fee.

What would you recommend for me then?

[ALMOSTunseen]

Originally Posted by helpme

I didn't see that lol, I thought it was a reference site to your info about dual graphics cards. Thanks, great build.

Alot of different power wattages have been suggested (by everyone). What is a base power wattage I should look at?

Minimum 550. I'd recommend around 700 so you have room to upgrade.

[Caspase]

If you go with SLI I would say at least 800w. Crossfire 900W. But is is always best to have headroom because PSU start to be less efficient at their maximum capacity. With your budget you could get a modular one, from a respected brand, with 1000w, leaving room to upgrade easily.

[helpme]

If I Go with AMD CPU is it recommended to use amd Graphics or it doesnt make a difference?

[ALMOSTunseen]

Originally Posted by helpme

If I Go with AMD CPU is it recommended to use amd Graphics or it doesnt make a difference?

No difference that I know of.