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Old Nov 27, 2012, 12:51 PM   #1
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Apple iMac Available on November 30th

Apple today announced the all-new iMac will be available on Friday, November 30. Featuring a stunning design, brilliant display with reduced reflection, faster processors and an innovative new storage option called Fusion Drive, the new iMac is the most advanced desktop Apple has ever made. The 21.5-inch iMac will be available through the Apple Online Store (www.apple.com), Apple's retail stores and select Apple Authorized Resellers. The 27-inch iMac will be available for order through the Apple Online Store and will begin shipping in December.





Redesigned from the inside out, the new iMac packs high performance technology into an aluminum and glass enclosure that measures just 5 mm thin at its edge and features a reengineered display that reduces reflection by 75 percent. The new iMac includes 8 GB of 1600 MHz memory, a 1 TB hard drive, third generation quad-core Intel Core i5 processors that can be upgraded to Core i7, and the latest NVIDIA GeForce graphics processors that deliver up to 60 percent faster performance. Fusion Drive is an innovative new storage option that gives customers the performance of flash and the capacity of a hard drive by combining 128 GB of flash with a standard hard drive to create a single storage volume that intelligently manages files to optimize read and write performance.

The 21.5-inch iMac is available with a 2.7 GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 with Turbo Boost speeds up to 3.2 GHz and NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M for a suggested retail price of $1,299 (US); and with a 2.9 GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 with Turbo Boost speeds up to 3.6 GHz and NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M for a suggested retail price of $1,499 (US). The 27-inch iMac is available with a 2.9 GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 with Turbo Boost speeds up to 3.6 GHz and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M for a suggested retail price of $1,799 (US); and with a 3.2 GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 with Turbo Boost speeds up to 3.6 GHz and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX for a suggested retail price of $1,999 (US).
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Woohoo! Desktops, laptops..
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incredible. apple keeps pushing forward while the other pc vendors try to keep up.
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Woohoo! Desktops, laptops..
Only the graphics is notebook level, although most of those chips are found in desktop cards as well...
Not that I'd my an iMac, but hey...
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Only the graphics is notebook level, although most of those chips are found in desktop cards as well...
Not that I'd my an iMac, but hey...
I know that... That's why I said Desktop,laptop.. It's a little of both..
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 01:51 PM   #6
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So apple releases its desktop 21.5” All-In-One iMac desktop systems with Intel Ivy Bridge processors starting November 30 (the last day of November) and the 27” variation on an unspecified day in December.

This is the first versions of Apple desktops running Ivy Bridge and it is ridiculously tardy to the party. It’s a prime example of how non-mobile systems are being overlooked, neglected and marginalized (either by the consumer or manufacturer or both). The Mac Pro is another example albeit more extreme,....

Compare that to the iPad that went from its 3rd generation to its 4th generation in the space of 7 months.
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The iMac comes with this 2560 x 1440 pixel.

Now that is pushing the consumer envelope.

It doesnt need the fastest CPU. That is for "PC enthusiasts". But it brings high resolution desktop to the consumer.

Why are PC OEMs lagging here? And still forcing 1080 down our throats. We do not want yesteryear resolutions. We want tomorrows resolutions, today.
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incredible. apple keeps pushing forward while the other pc vendors try to keep up.
I could buy a more powerful laptop and a 21.5" monitor for less than $1300. Just add Linux and you have a better system with mobility.

The only thing good in the Apple department is their marketing. Without them being able to hypnotize the casual buyer, they would be the retarded stepchild of the industry.
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incredible. apple keeps pushing forward while the other pc vendors try to keep up.
Huh? Apple only has two models of laptops and three of desktops. Look at any modest PC manufacturer and you'll find at least double that. Then for a comparison of computers that ship with Mac OS X, you need to compare to the entire arsenal of computers that ship with Windows: five compared to hundreds.

What's the last standard Apple introduced that had wide market acceptance? I'd say Firewire (IEEE1394) but that doesn't exactly qualify for "wide." I would say Ultrabook but it's Intel that made that possible, not Apple. Hmm...


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Why are PC OEMs lagging here? And still forcing 1080 down our throats. We do not want yesteryear resolutions. We want tomorrows resolutions, today.
Because the largest volume of PCs that sell are those $600 and less. When it really comes down to it, most people are unwilling to shell out $1000+ for a pretty screen they'll gawk at for a minute and then get straight to internet browsing.

And...because of the above, those high resolution monitors become a luxary item instead of the norm so they slap their highest markups on them.
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All I want to see is the promised overhaul of itunes. Those imacs look nice but i could never have old specs in a pretty package.
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By "innovative" and "new" they mean "its been in use in other computers on the market for months now and we're finally getting around to using it".
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So apple releases its desktop 21.5” All-In-One iMac desktop systems with Intel Ivy Bridge processors starting November 30 (the last day of November) and the 27” variation on an unspecified day in December.

This is the first versions of Apple desktops running Ivy Bridge and it is ridiculously tardy to the party. It’s a prime example of how non-mobile systems are being overlooked, neglected and marginalized (either by the consumer or manufacturer or both). The Mac Pro is another example albeit more extreme,....

Compare that to the iPad that went from its 3rd generation to its 4th generation in the space of 7 months.
You can't seriously compare tablets with PC's (including Macs there). ARM is racing forward WAY WAY faster than traditional chipts, for good reason.
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Not really. There's a reason why Microsoft is launching a Surface and a Surface Pro. ARM is advancing according to Moore's Law, just as x86 is.
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The iMac comes with this 2560 x 1440 pixel.

Now that is pushing the consumer envelope.

It doesnt need the fastest CPU. That is for "PC enthusiasts". But it brings high resolution desktop to the consumer.

Why are PC OEMs lagging here? And still forcing 1080 down our throats. We do not want yesteryear resolutions. We want tomorrows resolutions, today.
This iMac just uses the classic 2560x1440 CinemaDisplay panel and afaik it's not new and for that price you could build a desktop and pair it with a 27 inch Dell or one of those korean monitors.

2560x1400/2560x1600 resolutions have been around for a good amount of time, heck let's say for too much, I've been on 2560x1600 for years.

What manufacturers need to do is to decrease prices on high resolution panels, shift high res onto smaller panels and increase resolution for 27-30 inch panels.
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What's the last standard Apple introduced that had wide market acceptance?
Mini DisplayPort? Apple introduced it and VESA later made it standard.
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2560x1400/2560x1600 resolutions have been around for a good amount of time, heck let's say for too much, I've been on 2560x1600 for years.
We all know that 2560x1600 has been around for donkeys years. BUT at the enthusiast end. What is an important shift for us to recognise here, is that Apple is bring this to CONSUMER. I like that. If it makes hi resolutions mainstream then it will bring down prices and push up what we want: higher resolution, higher pixel density.
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DisplayPort was made by VESA. Apple miniaturized it but when it wasn't earning them money they licenced it free. After a year or so VESA picked it back up.
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We all know that 2560x1600 has been around for donkeys years. BUT at the enthusiast end. What is an important shift for us to recognise here, is that Apple is bring this to CONSUMER. I like that. If it makes hi resolutions mainstream then it will bring down prices and push up what we want: higher resolution, higher pixel density.
Unfortunately, manufacturers are not listening and keep pumping out crappy 1080p resolutions on 24-27 monitors.
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We all know that 2560x1600 has been around for donkeys years. BUT at the enthusiast end. What is an important shift for us to recognise here, is that Apple is bring this to CONSUMER. I like that. If it makes hi resolutions mainstream then it will bring down prices and push up what we want: higher resolution, higher pixel density.
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The 27-inch iMac is available with a 2.9 GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 with Turbo Boost speeds up to 3.6 GHz and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M for a suggested retail price of $1,799 (US); and with a 3.2 GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 with Turbo Boost speeds up to 3.6 GHz and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX for a suggested retail price of $1,999 (US).

The "cheapest" 27inch 2560x1440 starts at 1,799 USD, if you consider that mainstream then I'm sorry but you are just off.
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The 21.5-inch iMac is available with a 2.7 GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 with Turbo Boost speeds up to 3.2 GHz and NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M for a suggested retail price of $1,299 (US); and with a 2.9 GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 with Turbo Boost speeds up to 3.6 GHz and NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M for a suggested retail price of $1,499 (US).
It costs you $200 to go from 2.7 to 2.9 GHz and from a 640M to a 650M?
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incredible. apple keeps pushing forward while the other pc vendors try to keep up.
What is pushing forward? The price? In deed. Tech? pfff...I can clearly see how they push forward with 640M on 1440p screens. Good luck gaming on that other than Crazy Birds or Zumma.
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I could buy a more powerful laptop and a 21.5" monitor for less than $1300. Just add Linux and you have a better system with mobility.

The only thing good in the Apple department is their marketing. Without them being able to hypnotize the casual buyer, they would be the retarded stepchild of the industry.
show me a desktop PC with those specs/dimensions and that kind of build quality.

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What's the last standard Apple introduced that had wide market acceptance? I'd say Firewire (IEEE1394) but that doesn't exactly qualify for "wide." I would say Ultrabook but it's Intel that made that possible, not Apple. Hmm...
not a single pc desktop manufacturer can come close to pushing those specs in a body like that. apple products are underpriced and that has been pushing down the price of pc desktops as well since they cannot compete.

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What is pushing forward? The price? In deed. Tech? pfff...I can clearly see how they push forward with 640M on 1440p screens. Good luck gaming on that other than Crazy Birds or Zumma.
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All I want out of this is cheaper 2560 monitors. I could care less about an iMac, but I like how they are pushing pixel density. Hate them all you want but at least they got that right.

I have a similarly priced PC and couldn't imagine buying a 2560 monitor at current prices. Likewise there are people who don't need the gaming power but could use the higher-res displays. Apple has done a lot of boundary pushing in the last couple of years, ignoring it won't change the fact that a lot of manufacturers have blatantly ripped off their design using the pretext that the technology was already available, yet somehow they came late and copied.

That's just from a design (hardware and software) perspective. Recently they have lost their pace and all they are busy with is patent trolling. I hope they change their tactics and compete with products instead.
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apple products are underpriced and that has been pushing down the price of pc desktops as well since they cannot compete.
I love how you justify the price.

I think I'll leave this thread alone for a few hours, come back with some popcorn and just sit here and read.
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