Burning in new build 3570k + Z77-UD5H

[drdeathx]

Originally Posted by Jack1n

Thats pretty much the temps you would be gettings with the stock cooler,at stock speeds so hes fine.

No he is not. It is over max Tcase. Those temps will degredate the chip.

[drdeathx]

Originally Posted by XL-R8R

Just.... no?










See "Jacks" post for a similar line of thought to myself.

I would research max Tcase which is 67. The sensors will read about 10 degrees higher than Tcase which is about 77. I will leave it at that.

[Binge]

Sooo many double posts. Forum etiquette 101 dictates that if you have more to add to a post that you edit your previous post

Sasqui! This is awesome! My faith in humanity was restored and everything just by reading this thread. You are my hero for the holidays with your fellowship microcenter-run and awesome overclocking results

[XL-R8R]

Originally Posted by drdeathx

I would research max Tcase which is 67. The sensors will read about 10 degrees higher than Tcase which is about 77. I will leave it at that.

OK?

The TCase is a number established by Intel® as a point of reference in order to understand what could be expected as per normal processor temperature.

When the processor is stressed out meaning that you are running heavy processor applications that take control of the CPU or uses it at 100% the temperature will go beyond the TCase. It can perfectly reach 80 to 85 degrees and the processor will still be OK. The cooling fan is in charge to keep that temperature there.

Also....

Guest: At what temperature i start degrading my processor ?
Daniel: there is no such temperature, processors do not degrade since they are designed to work at high temperatures.
Guest: ok , then why does the processor thermal throttle at a certain temperature ?
Daniel : Please provide a detail description of the issue you are experiencing.
Guest: I am not having an issue , i am trying to avoid damaging my $1000 processor.
Guest: That is why i am asking to know about temperatures.
Daniel : To confirm, processors are designed to work at high temperatures so if there is any issue let us know.
Guest: Are those temperatures beyond 1000 c ?
Daniel : the processor will automatically shut down when reaching 100C to prevent damage.

A quick Google search showed this information, that you should already have seen. Both come from Intel sources, the first being the Intel site its self, the second being Live Chat with an Intel employee.


I don't actually see your point..... care to provide any links to ACTUAL evidence of your claims... or just spread FUD???


His temps are fine and within normal operating range of the stock cooler... voltage, THEN finally heat, degrades a chip.

[LightningJR]

Originally Posted by Sasqui

4.5Ghz, @ 1.25v in BIOS, Peak 72c, ran Prime95 OVERNIGHT.

This seems to be the sweet spot under air, will try for 4.6Ghz tonight.

http://img.techpowerup.org/121119/Pr...5_Ghz_125v.png

I feel pretty happy about my 2500K since it's also able to reach 4.5Ghz at 1.25 with ~6C lower temps. Nice chip

[Sasqui]

Originally Posted by drdeathx

Those temps are about 10 degrees past safe.

I'm sure if I put it back it's box, and stuck it in a freezer, it'd last a lot longer.

Originally Posted by PatoRodrigues

Sasqui, you're having a good OC experience with Z77X-UD5H? Easy to use?

Recently bought the parts for a new rig and besides the review made on TPU, i did not ask to any person about the OC potential this board has. I'll OC a 3770K with a H100... so i'll probably get better temps, but that does not change the OC experience with the board (i guess).

It's a fantastic board, I couldn't be happier. And that is coming off the last best boards I've encountered, the ASUS Maximus and Rampage Formula. The BIOS is a no-brainer, but mastering the voltages takes some time. With all voltages set to Auto, up to 4.3 Ghz is one setting away in the BIOS - the CPU multiplier.

Yes, you will definitely see better temps with water.

[Tatty_One]

Nice job M8 , Just received my CPU today, motherboard arrives tomorrow hopefully, also a UD5 so this thread will help me this weekend start tinkering, I have one of the new Corsair Hydro H80i coolers to hopefully keep the temps in check. Last weekend I got given a freebie i7 930 which get a bit toasty once you go over 4.2gig, this cooler runs the thing at 73C max load at 4.2gig in Prime so I am hoping it can do a bit with IB.

[Sasqui]

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

Nice job M8 , Just received my CPU today, motherboard arrives tomorrow hopefully, also a UD5 so this thread will help me this weekend start tinkering, I have one of the new Corsair Hydro H80i coolers to hopefully keep the temps in check. Last weekend I got given a freebie i7 930 which get a bit toasty once you go over 4.2gig, this cooler runs the thing at 73C max load at 4.2gig in Prime so I am hoping it can do a bit with IB.

What IB chip? Start another burn-in thread

One differnence I notices with Prime95... Core2 vs Ivy. When Prime95 fails on the Core2, I'd get a calculation error. With Ivy, Prime95 crashes and dissapears from the desktop rather quickly.

[Tatty_One]

Originally Posted by Sasqui

What IB chip? Start another burn-in thread

One differnence I notices with Prime95... Core2 vs Ivy. When Prime95 fails on the Core2, I'd get a calculation error. With Ivy, Prime95 crashes and dissapears from the desktop rather quickly.

3570k too

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by Sasqui

What IB chip? Start another burn-in thread

One differnence I notices with Prime95... Core2 vs Ivy. When Prime95 fails on the Core2, I'd get a calculation error. With Ivy, Prime95 crashes and dissapears from the desktop rather quickly.

You're just a wee bit further from stability then. Usually, I find that crashes like that might just be memory controller voltage, not CPU voltage.

And then, sometimes rounding errors are memory controller...and sometimes they are CPU. rounding errors on more than one thread usually = IMC, one thread = CPU.

[Sasqui]

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

3570k too

Welcome to the club!

Originally Posted by cadaveca

You're just a wee bit further from stability then. Usually, I find that crashes like that might just be memory controller voltage, not CPU voltage.

Not sure. It was doing the same thing when I had the memory at 1600 C10 and pushed the CPU too far. Also, when doing Prime95 on the Core2 it was in XP. Now I'm on Win7 64. That could be the difference, I'm not sure.

[drdeathx]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

not THAT hot, because max temp is 105c...still got 20C to go.

that said, 4.6 GHz would be my choice. All my Intel chips hit that, actually. I need 1.35 V for that with my 3570K though.

NoNo. Max Tcase is 67.4 degrees. 105 will take the chip past max Tcase. Pushing the 3770k past 80 will surely degrgate the chip. You can generally add about 10 degrees to Tcase and that is max for a processor(about 77 degrees). This was learned by many with Bloomfield. I saw many degredate their bloomfield processors by going this high......I push my chips beyond and have seen a few of mine degredate and do not overclock as good anymore. Taking it to 80-85 may be acceptable but just saying, that is pushing it.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by drdeathx

NoNo. Max Tcase is 67.4 degrees. 105 will take the chip past max Tcase. Pushing the 3770k past 80 will surely degrgate the chip. You can generally add about 10 degrees to Tcase and that is max for a processor(about 77 degrees). This was learned by many with Bloomfield. I saw many degredate their bloomfield processors by going this high......I push my chips beyond and have seen a few of mine degredate and do not overclock as good anymore. Taking it to 80-85 may be acceptable but just saying, that is pushing it.

Um, we don't use TCase. We use TJMax, which for IVB, is 105 C. This is info from Intel Whitepapers, you can check for yourself.


Very different figures. I hit 85c on TJmax, and TCase is just 45C, so I hear where you are coming from, but what the guys here are talking about, and what you are talking about, are two totally different readings, from two totally different sensors.

[Sasqui]

Core Temp reads Tjunction, not TCase, as far as I know.

Here's a read on Tj vs. TC from intels website:
http://www.intel.com/support/process.../cs-033342.htm

[XL-R8R]

Hey Sasqui... can you post up some MaxxMem results please?


Would be interested to see what I'm missing out on with this smaller board and slower RAM. :P


This is what I benched with... though it appears to have a bit of an issue reading the correct values of hardware... not that it matters at all.


Thanks.