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Old Nov 28, 2012, 05:17 AM   #20451
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Guys how much of a difference does l2 cache have on ppd?
I have sitting here an athlon ii x2 220 and a x2 240
Both have a stock vcore of 1.4v and both hit 3.5ghz easy on stock volts.
Price for both are the same. I borrowed both from 2 different frieneds. They told me I can use them,overclock them and test them out and see which I like better before I pay them.
Both seem to run the same temps,both overclock the same for 24/7 use.
So the question goes back to, how big of a difference does l2 cache make?


BTW upping the clock speed from 2.8ghz to 3.5ghz took ~30mins off of the time it takes per-task to get done. Does that seem right? (this is on the X2 220)
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 07:01 AM   #20452
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Got the new 7770 installed:


Only problem I have with the two HIS 7770 GPU's is that for some reason I cannot monitor their temps. The cards stay nice and cool by touch, not like the two 580's which are pretty hot...
Don't know why I can't see their temps though...
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Maybe HIS uses different sensors than the stock and Sapphire cards? Try GPU-Z or HWMonitor. Or CCC.
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Tried GPU-Z, AfterBurner, Trixx, and Precision with no luck. I will try HWMonitor...
CCC doesn't have the Performance option for some reason...
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Yeah. I am begining to think there may be a conflict. I am just happy to be able to run all 4 GPU's in the same system

And I made a mistake. They are VisionTek cards....

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"For comparison: The record before the double image packaging was 1,357,710 (Nov.12) single image results. The projected double image validations for today, Nov.27, is 830,224 or 1,660,448 single images, an up by 22% over the old record... so sorry, but based on what I knew, that's leaving 65 days (The this morning adjusted algo result)

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Guys how much of a difference does l2 cache have on ppd?
I have sitting here an athlon ii x2 220 and a x2 240
Both have a stock vcore of 1.4v and both hit 3.5ghz easy on stock volts.
Price for both are the same. I borrowed both from 2 different frieneds. They told me I can use them,overclock them and test them out and see which I like better before I pay them.
Both seem to run the same temps,both overclock the same for 24/7 use.
So the question goes back to, how big of a difference does l2 cache make?


BTW upping the clock speed from 2.8ghz to 3.5ghz took ~30mins off of the time it takes per-task to get done. Does that seem right? (this is on the X2 220)
I'm honestly not sure ATM. I've been trying to do some tests on my HPs and older laptops, but I have confounding variables that's making it hard (namely, some run Vista, some run 7, and some run Ubuntu). I'll look at my numbers and see what info I can dredge up
And as far as the time difference goes--what sort of percentage increase is this? Because HCC completes far, far faster than CEP2.
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Only problem I have with the two HIS 7770 GPU's is that for some reason I cannot monitor their temps. The cards stay nice and cool by touch, not like the two 580's which are pretty hot...
Don't know why I can't see their temps though...
That's awesome!
And it's not like the GTX580s are that hot...they're sure running cooler than the GTX470s I have
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"For comparison: The record before the double image packaging was 1,357,710 (Nov.12) single image results. The projected double image validations for today, Nov.27, is 830,224 or 1,660,448 single images, an up by 22% over the old record... so sorry, but based on what I knew, that's leaving 65 days (The this morning adjusted algo result)

Crunch On, (and you better hurry if you had any serious badge level in mind "

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Thank you for keeping us updated! It's awesome to see how much time the GPU applications have chopped off of this-but it is a shame that our cards will be idled in two months
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Well the 6950's are back online this morning. For now my network connection issues have been fixed. I got a router from Edward and it works great until you start downloading heavily (large files like steam games). It would boot loop once it had over loaded and I would have to unplug it and wait about 2 minutes then connect it back and it would be fine until I started downloading again. My boss brought me a nice access point that he used in his home last year so I took it and a Pentium 4 combo loaded with IPfire and created a custom firewall/DHCP server. I downloaded most of the games I have in my steam collection and it ran 2.5-3.2mbps strong the WHOLE TIME even while I browsed the web with no slow downs or disconnects. I am planning on building a silent cooled ITX system to serve and my router 24/7 but for now I have a mATX MB tray with this P4 combo in it.
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My bad Brandon. I checked it before I shipped it out to you, guess I should have checked it better than I did.
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My bad Brandon. I checked it before I shipped it out to you, guess I should have checked it better than I did.
its ok man, I think it was just getting too hot at heavy loads, I bet if I modded the top with one of those slim 80mm fans that was on the cooler you sent me, it would be fine. When I would have to reboot it, It was quite warm to the touch.
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Yea that should work. I have a family member that needs a router though so I will probably "Pay it forward" and gift it to her. She is a good person and I would like to help her out cause I was helped when I was in need

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Great---WCG is shut down for maintenance again
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By now I think we all got used to it and hence have a small buffer. At least this time I'm good for 1-2 hours. When I run the app_info file my estimate time for one GPU unit goes up to around 2 hours (is 5-6 min) so even if I set the minimum buffer to a high number I never have more then 100 at any given time.
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I picked up two more of the HP SFFs tonight and a bunch of HDDs. I'm installing Vista on one HP later, and if I can get my laptop to properly create a Win7 flash drive I'll set up the Atom after this.
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Finally got BOINC fixed on the machines I was having problems with. It wasn't an issue with permissions at all, but rather the client (7.0.27) seems to think by default that the computer is always being used and it won't do anything until you dig up the menu and tell it to always do work and network communication.

So, that means I got my other 939 X2 system going, but I also readded my Pentium M laptop, Turion64 ML-37 laptop and a single core s754 Athlon64 3500+. With those three I can probably get about 1200-1500 PPD I think.
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So, that means I got my other 939 X2 system going, but I also readded my Pentium M laptop, Turion64 ML-37 laptop and a single core s754 Athlon64 3500+. With those three I can probably get about 1200-1500 PPD I think.
Ooh, single cores

I draw the line at anything older than a C2D or AMD X2. To me, a Pentium D, P4, or AMD A64 just isn't worth the size and effort it takes. But that extra PPD sounds great
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If I paid for the electricity, it would be a different story. Threw them up to see if WCG will finish off their lives as they are pretty much useless for anything else I do.
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I understand entirely. It's free electricity that lets me run all of these HPs. But for me, space really is the bigger concern--there just isn't that much space available in a standard college dorm room
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Took a little time tonight to hopefully rid my main PC of some overclocking bugs. Going to let it run WCG on the CPU and GPU and see what the status is in the morning- should have me back on my 8-12hr minimum daily average run time.

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I know we usually celebrate BOINC milestones--but I saw this in WCG this morning and was just too thrilled not to share it:


All six of the HPs are up and crunching right now:

As is the Atom, which blows chunks for crunching. I have literally not seen a system this slow for WCG. At least it runs sub-50C even with no fan and doesn't draw enough electricity to turn on the PSU fan.
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Thanks to GPU WU's though, I was closer than ever before at nearly 1/3 of it's output (maybe more today?)


PPD craze has bit me, so this was a small moment of joy.
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