Intel Updates CPU Launch Roadmap for Q1 2013

[btarunr]

With the dawn of 2013, and no catastrophes in sight, Intel is going ahead with its usual business of phasing out old processor models, and making way for new ones. By the end of 2012, Intel will stop taking orders for several processor models mostly based on the older 32 nm "Sandy Bridge" silicon. These include chips such as the Core i7-2700K, Core i5-2310, Core i3-2105, Pentium G440, and surprisingly, an early demise of the 22 nm Core i5-3450, which is cannibalized by the Core i5-3470 at the same price point. Pentium G870, G645 and G645T as well as Celeron G555, G550 and G550T are the other chips on the chopping block.

Come 2013, Intel will release Pentium and Celeron series processors based on its 22 nm "Ivy Bridge" micro-architecture. These include the Pentium G2130, G2020 and G2020T and Celeron G1620, G1610 and G1610T. In the mobile (notebook) CPU sphere, Intel will launch dual-core "Ivy Bridge" chips to layer out its Ultrabook product segment. These include the Core i7-3687, Core i5-3437U, Celeron 1037U, 1007U, 1020M and 1000M. In March, the company is expected to launch its 4th generation Core "Haswell" line of processors.

An interesting piece of statistics show that the 32 nm "Sandy Bridge" silicon still makes up for 60 percent of Intel's CPU shipments, followed by 22 nm "Ivy bridge" at 34 percent, the various Atom derivatives at 4 percent, and "Sandy Bridge-E" at a respectable 2 percent. The proportion of "Ivy Bridge" processors is expected to rise to over 70 percent by mid-2013. In the second half, the company will launch its "Ivy Bridge-E" HEDT processors.

In related news, Intel will launch its new SSD 530 line of high-performance client SSDs.

Source: DigiTimes

[Mark]

a sad day, just a year ago i bought my Legendary 2700K just to see him go so quick>>????
well, i'll just wait for Broadwell then,,,cause from what i heard 3770K is 99.9 identical to my 2700K and haswell isnt going to be a revolutionary cpu either.,, well maybe the gpu unit yes, but not the cpu. my 2700k at 4.5ghz hope will be as fast as haswell .... so im fine

[T4C Fantasy]

Originally Posted by Mark

a sad day, just a year ago i bought my Legendary 2700K just to see him go so quick>>????
well, i'll just wait for Broadwell then,,,cause from what i heard 3770K is 99.9 identical to my 2700K and haswell isnt going to be a revolutionary cpu either.,, well maybe the gpu unit yes, but not the cpu. my 2700k at 4.5ghz hope will be as fast as haswell .... so im fine

you heard wrong then, the 3770k has a smaller process size uses intels new "10 year in the making" 3d transistor technology, its about 20% faster clock for clock and the intergrated gpu is about 20 - 50% faster

[Mark]

Originally Posted by T4C Fantasy

you heard wrong then, the 3770k has a smaller process size uses intels new "10 year in the making" 3d transistor technology, its about 20% faster clock for clock and the intergrated gpu is about 20 - 50% faster

see im a gamer, and in demanding cpu taxing games such as Supreme Commander or GTA4
between 2700K and 3770k is only 1 FPS diffrence just ONE ok? thats not 20% diffrence thats called IDENTICAL PERFORMANCE , go ahead tell me you're gonna see that 1 fps diffrence when u play..

[PatoRodrigues]

Imagine the heat that Ivy Bridge-E will generate...

If 3770K's already that hot, i don't even want to see the requirements to keep a 6-Core Ivy Bridge under 70ºC @ Load.

[T4C Fantasy]

Originally Posted by Mark

see im a gamer, and in demanding cpu taxing games such as Supreme Commander or GTA4
between 2700K and 3770k is only 1 FPS diffrence just ONE ok? thats not 20% diffrence thats called IDENTICAL PERFORMANCE , go ahead tell me you're gonna see that 1 fps diffrence when u play..

I don't know why you will use intel hd 3000/4000 to game on gta 4 but you will be guaranteed to get more than a 1 fps improvement, you are not enabling the gpu correctly

[Mark]

Originally Posted by T4C Fantasy

I don't know why you will use intel hd 3000/4000 to game on gta 4 but you will be guaranteed to get more than a 1 fps improvement, you are not enabling the gpu correctly

no no no what i meant 1fps thats the raw cpu performance not the integrated gpu bullcrap that intel puts in there,,,
as for the gpu im running 2 7970 MSI Xfire so im good with graphics department thank you

[Frick]

Heh I like this Mark fellow. He's hostile.

Anyway that they remove the 3450 isn't very surprising at all as it doesn't have the features of the 3470. It never made much sense.

[Naito]

Originally Posted by Mark

...and haswell isnt going to be a revolutionary cpu either.,,

Haswell is the next 'tock' (native 22nm microarchitecture), so will be more revolutionary than Broadwell (pretty much Haswell die shrink), I'd imagine. Having said that though, an i7 Sandy Bridge should carry you into 2014.

[repman244]

Originally Posted by PatoRodrigues

Imagine the heat that Ivy Bridge-E will generate...

If 3770K's already that hot, i don't even want to see the requirements to keep a 6-Core Ivy Bridge under 70ºC @ Load.

3770k outputs LESS heat, but it runs at higher temperatures because Intel didn't solder the die to the IHS.
Don't confuse temperature and heat, it's not the same.

[Naito]

Originally Posted by Mark

not the integrated gpu bullcrap that intel puts in there,,,

The Intel 'HD Graphics' IGPs aren't half bad; much better than previous generations. Not saying you'll be doing any serious gaming on them, but for the mobile platform, or budget desktop (not doing anything more than movies, internet browsing, word processing, etc), they are sufficient.

Originally Posted by Mark

as for the gpu im running 2 7970 MSI Xfire so im good with graphics department thank you

That's all well and good, but please fill out your System Specs, so we can really see how long your e-peen is...

[Morgoth]

how com intel stil names its cpu's intel pentium ?

[Naito]

Originally Posted by Mark

how com intel stil names its cpu's intel pentium ?

They kept it to slot in another budget tier. AFAIK, it took over the roll of the Celeron, thus pushing the Celeron further down

[repman244]

Originally Posted by T4C Fantasy

the 3770k has a smaller process size uses intels new "10 year in the making" 3d transistor technology, its about 20% faster clock for clock

Compared to Sandy?



3D gating doesn't impact performance much, it's mostly for lowering voltage IIRC, the performance comes from a slight increase in transistor count and maybe some other tweaks.

[boogerlad]

Originally Posted by T4C Fantasy

you heard wrong then, the 3770k has a smaller process size uses intels new "10 year in the making" 3d transistor technology, its about 20% faster clock for clock and the intergrated gpu is about 20 - 50% faster

You may be right about the gpu, but there's no way that the cpu is 20% clock for clock faster. Closer to 4%.

[PatoRodrigues]

Originally Posted by repman244

3770k outputs LESS heat, but it runs at higher temperatures because Intel didn't solder the die to the IHS.
Don't confuse temperature and heat, it's not the same.

Yeah it makes sense.

More heat concentrated > higher temps

[repman244]

Originally Posted by PatoRodrigues

Yeah it makes sense.

More heat concentrated > higher temps

No, higher temperature is due to lower heat transfer from the die to the IHS (and the cooler) because Intel didn't solder it. (Temperature is only a number it's not the energy itself)
The TDP for Ivy is lower, the power consumption is lower. And that's clear when you look at laptops which Ivy CPU's which have direct contact to die, they don't have any issues with high temperatures.



Google difference between temperature and heat.

[Dj-ElectriC]

Intel's IVB CPU's heat isnt all about the IHS, they are naturally a bit hotter per area

[repman244]

Originally Posted by Dj-ElectriC

Intel's IVB CPU's heat isnt all about the IHS, they are naturally a bit hotter per area

That is true, but IMO that doesn't contribute that much (look at the mobile CPU's). Seeing all those threads about de-lidding and ~10C drops seems to indicate that it really is the TIM that they used.
Will be interesting to see how IVB-E will turn out and if they will use solder this time.

[EarthDog]

Originally Posted by T4C Fantasy

you heard wrong then, the 3770k has a smaller process size uses intels new "10 year in the making" 3d transistor technology, its about 20% faster clock for clock and the intergrated gpu is about 20 - 50% faster

Have you read the review of that CPU from anywhere? Perhaps in a test it may be that faster, but otherwise, it rests around 5-7% faster...

Originally Posted by repman244

That is true, but IMO that doesn't contribute that much (look at the mobile CPU's). Seeing all those threads about de-lidding and ~10C drops seems to indicate that it really is the TIM that they used.
Will be interesting to see how IVB-E will turn out and if they will use solder this time.

TIM is part of it.. but not the whole story...

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost...&postcount=570

[thunderising]

Man I would still be happy with a Core i7 i920 till now, best CPU ever. No reason to upgrade whatsoever. Undervolt, and use with first gen HD5870 undervolted and enjoy performance/efficiency through the years with ZERO upgrade cost.

The next upgrade makes sense when 8 core CPUs come for $299 and DX12 or whatever comes out (or DX11 games take the position tht DX9 holds). Seeing competition (AMD), the CPU dream might take a long while.

[T4C Fantasy]

Originally Posted by EarthDog

Have you read the review of that CPU from anywhere? Perhaps in a test it may be that faster, but otherwise, it rests around 5-7% faster...

TIM is part of it.. but not the whole story...

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost...&postcount=570

yea but mark was making it seem like there was no difference, I doubt he has ever had a 3770k and 2x 7970s but its possible, but I know my 3770k kicks his 2700k's ass

[EarthDog]

I love that last part.

What is really comical is it went from minimizing gains to blowing them out of proportion. Thank god repman came in to save the day!

[Ninjachopstixx]

Originally Posted by Mark

see im a gamer, and in demanding cpu taxing games such as Supreme Commander or GTA4
between 2700K and 3770k is only 1 FPS diffrence just ONE ok? thats not 20% diffrence thats called IDENTICAL PERFORMANCE , go ahead tell me you're gonna see that 1 fps diffrence when u play..

Well played dude have to agree, also a gamer don't see much performance increase coming from Intel's new chips

[fusionblu]

Originally Posted by EarthDog

TIM is part of it.. but not the whole story...

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost...&postcount=570

Unfortunately what one must consider is that this is an example of how Intel is slowly leaving the desktop market and being a little shoddy with the Ivybridge Series of CPUs for the apparent reason of saving costs which really is because they can get away with selling a flawed product and also because maintaining top-quality would appear to no longer be necessary with the desktop market too.