Microsoft Security Essentials Fails AV-Test Certification - Page 2

trickson · Nov 30, 2012, 04:09 PM

Another thing I found is that with MSE you do not need mallwarebits. This is just another + for me. I had kept it in for one year and after that found no need for it at all. I have yet to be infected by a thing!

Jstn7477 · Nov 30, 2012, 04:17 PM

I would be more than happy to install Avast on friends computers, but the email protection recently kept crashing Outlook 2013 on my mom's Windows 7 machine, and they still have you do that stupid 1 year licensing crap and I bet 99% of people I fix computers for wouldn't even re-activate it. I still use MSE/Win8 Defender + Malwarebytes on all my machines but I have avoided being attacked for quite a while. Avast found rootkits and blocked them from phoning home when MSE didn't acknowledge their existence.

Melvis · Nov 30, 2012, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

And you were wrong there too.

Yea i recommended Kaspersky and Bitdiffender and said how crap MSE is, and funny enough so did this review

I can totally see how i was wrong

trickson · Nov 30, 2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Melvis

Yea i recommended Kaspersky and Bitdiffender and said how crap MSE is, and funny enough so did this review

I can totally see how i was wrong

You are still wrong.

acerace · Nov 30, 2012, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trickson

You are still wrong.

You're the only one that's right here.

trickson · Nov 30, 2012, 05:10 PM

And how much are they payed to do these tests? money talks and maybe Microsoft wasn't going to pay them for a good ratting! I mean just because this one German company ran this test on it does that mean it is bad? You are still wrong.

Frick · Nov 30, 2012, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trickson

And how much are they payed to do these tests? money talks and maybe Microsoft wasn't going to pay them for a good ratting! I mean just because this one German company ran this test on it does that mean it is bad? You are still wrong.

You can say the same about TPU. I'm not even sure what you're talking about but you're wrong by default.

trickson · Nov 30, 2012, 05:22 PM

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archive/vendor?id=70

Maybe you should look at this!

TheMailMan78 · Nov 30, 2012, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trickson

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archive/vendor?id=70

Maybe you should look at this!

By thier chart Avast failed last December......doesnt make avast a bad scanner does it because it failed one month?........no. People are looking WAY to far into this.

brandonwh64 · Nov 30, 2012, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trickson

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archive/vendor?id=70

Maybe you should look at this!

From that same site. MSE had only 5 good passes out of 12 while AVG has 10 passes out of 12...

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archiv...e?id=70&id2=10

TheMailMan78 · Nov 30, 2012, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

From that same site. MSE had only 5 good passes out of 12 while AVG has 10 passes out of 12...

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archiv...e?id=70&id2=10

FYI they only tested it 5 times.

The rest they didn't even test it.

brandonwh64 · Nov 30, 2012, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

FYI they only tested it 5 times.

Why did they miss the other times? It just proves that this site is not reliable to show which one is or is not a good AV

TheMailMan78 · Nov 30, 2012, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Why did they miss the other times? It just proves that this site is not reliable to show which one is or is not a good AV

They only test them on engine revisions AFAIK. MSE is every other month. And that is a VERY good site.

trickson · Nov 30, 2012, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

From that same site. MSE had only 5 good passes out of 12 while AVG has 10 passes out of 12...

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archiv...e?id=70&id2=10

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archiv...e?id=70&id2=10

And 2 fails for AVG!

TheMailMan78 · Nov 30, 2012, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trickson

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archiv...e?id=70&id2=10

And 2 fails!

False postive is not a fail.

Widjaja · Nov 30, 2012, 05:31 PM

I guess it depends on how prone you are to getting PC infections.
MSE has been fine so far.
Moved from AVG since I found it was getting more and more system heavy.
Also AVG registered false positives often.

brandonwh64 · Nov 30, 2012, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

False postive is not a fail.

You can't argue with trickson, he is always right... This type of conversations should make you happy that you do not go onto the general nonsense forum anymore

trickson · Nov 30, 2012, 05:34 PM

http://forums.avg.com/us-en/avg-foru...show&id=215767

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/foru...onfiguring-AVG

Yeah AVG rocks!

TheMailMan78 · Nov 30, 2012, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

You can't argue with trickson, he is always right... This type of conversations should make you happy that you do not go onto the general nonsense forum anymore

Its just funny these things. Some of the guys on TPU havent used a virus checker in YEARS and sometimes do a scan.......they always come out clean. Why? Because they are not retards when it comes to downloading and installing everything under the sun. I only use one for a little peice of mind. Not because its really, REALLY needed with my browsing habits.

trickson · Nov 30, 2012, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

You can't argue with trickson, he is always right... This type of conversations should make you happy that you do not go onto the general nonsense forum anymore

So now this is all about me? I am pointing out different things that are out there and you make this about me? I post you attack?

brandonwh64 · Nov 30, 2012, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Its just funny these things. Some of the guys on TPU havent used a virus checker in YEARS and sometimes do a scan.......they always come out clean. Why? Because they are not retards when it comes to downloading and installing everything under the sun. I only use one for a little peice of mind. Not because its really, REALLY needed with my browsing habits.

I have used AVG for about 3 years now and its never gave me any trouble. Before that I had kaspersky and when my subscription ran out I got cheap and didn't want to pay it anymore.

TheMailMan78 · Nov 30, 2012, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

I have used AVG for about 3 years now and its never gave me any trouble. Before that I had kaspersky and when my subscription ran out I got cheap and didn't want to pay it anymore.

Yeah of course. Its no big deal. Just use whatever works for you. I use a MSE+Malwarebytes and Ive been good for a while now (knocks on wood). Doesnt matter what you use. Its all in your browsing habits. Most infections are from java or people installing bootleg crap.

trickson · Nov 30, 2012, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Yeah of course. Its no big deal. Just use whatever works for you. I use a MSE+Malwarebytes and Ive been good for a while now (knocks on wood). Doesnt matter what you use. Its all in your browsing habits. Most infections are from java or people installing bootleg crap.

I know . I am not saying that AVG sucks or is bad or not to use it. But some here think or read into it that I am.

so you don't get false positives regularly under avg? Really? you don't ever have Internet/game related issues with avg at all?

Funny with all the easy to find reports of problems with avg with various games.....that avg refuse to fix instead forcing users to find work a rounds or just get a different security suit.

brandonwh64 · Nov 30, 2012, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

I have used AVG for about 3 years now and its never gave me any trouble. Before that I had kaspersky and when my subscription ran out I got cheap and didn't want to pay it anymore.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trickson

You are still wrong.

No trickson but comments like above are the same thing you do over at GN as well and they are mainly just instigating comments. Then you do whatever you can to prove your decision to argue with someone.

trickson · Nov 30, 2012, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

No trickson but comments like above are the same thing you do over at GN as well and they are mainly just instigating comments. Then you do whatever you can to prove your decision to argue with someone.

How about you keep ME out of this and keep this thread on track? I do not want to make this a flame war just want to inform people that there are other places that test software as well yet they are not getting the same results or bashing MSE.

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Nov 30, 2012, 04:09 PM	#26
trickson OH, I have such a headache Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Planet Earth. Posts: 6,154 (1.97/day) Thanks: 1,947 Thanked 922 Times in 757 Posts System Specs	Another thing I found is that with MSE you do not need mallwarebits. This is just another + for me. I had kept it in for one year and after that found no need for it at all. I have yet to be infected by a thing!

Nov 30, 2012, 05:10 PM	#31
trickson OH, I have such a headache Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Planet Earth. Posts: 6,154 (1.97/day) Thanks: 1,947 Thanked 922 Times in 757 Posts System Specs	And how much are they payed to do these tests? money talks and maybe Microsoft wasn't going to pay them for a good ratting! I mean just because this one German company ran this test on it does that mean it is bad? You are still wrong.

Nov 30, 2012, 05:22 PM	#33
trickson OH, I have such a headache Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Planet Earth. Posts: 6,154 (1.97/day) Thanks: 1,947 Thanked 922 Times in 757 Posts System Specs	http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archive/vendor?id=70 Maybe you should look at this!

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Nov 30, 2012, 05:31 PM	#41
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Nov 30, 2012, 05:34 PM	#43
trickson OH, I have such a headache Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Planet Earth. Posts: 6,154 (1.97/day) Thanks: 1,947 Thanked 922 Times in 757 Posts System Specs	http://forums.avg.com/us-en/avg-foru...show&id=215767 https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/foru...onfiguring-AVG Yeah AVG rocks!

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