3930k to 3770k ?

[Live OR Die]

I'm thinking of moving to a 3770K is it worth it i would like a higher overclock as well.

[qubit]

I don't think you'll see any difference in your games. Save your money.

[Jack1n]

No.

[Protagonist]

No need, if anything Just save your cash, and if you need a change wait for Intel's Haswell

[Jack1n]

Wait until ATLEAST broadwell if not more.

[BarbaricSoul]

You want to go from a 6c/12t 3.8 ghz CPU to a 4c/8t 3.9 ghz CPU, and replace motherboards as well? Unless your just wanting to downgrade, why would you do that? You would actually loose computing power. Plus add the heat issues IB has because of Intel's bullshit sloppy thermal paste they used under the IHS instead of a proper thermal pad(which is exactly why I would never replace my 2600k with a 3770k).

[Aquinus]

Don't do it, it is a downgrade. If you really want to upgrade, wait for IVB-E but even then your boost will be marginal. I see absolutely no reason for you to replace the processor/motherboard and to do so would be asinine IMHO.

[Jack1n]

Originally Posted by BarbaricSoul

You want to go from a 6c/12t 3.8 ghz CPU to a 4c/8t 3.9 ghz CPU, and replace motherboards as well? Unless your just wanting to downgrade, why would you do that? You would actually loose computing power. Plus add the heat issues IB has because of Intel's bullshit sloppy thermal paste they used under the IHS instead of a proper thermal pad(which is exactly why I would never replace my 2600k with a 3770k).

IB produces less Heat,it runs at higher temperature.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by Live OR Die

I'm thinking of moving to a 3770K is it worth it i would like a higher overclock as well.

Classical syndrome of "I want new toys to play with, nevermind if its downgrade or not"

[radrok]

Originally Posted by BarbaricSoul

You want to go from a 6c/12t 3.8 ghz CPU to a 4c/8t 3.9 ghz CPU, and replace motherboards as well? Unless your just wanting to downgrade, why would you do that? You would actually loose computing power. Plus add the heat issues IB has because of Intel's bullshit sloppy thermal paste they used under the IHS instead of a proper thermal pad(which is exactly why I would never replace my 2600k with a 3770k).

Grow some nuts and delid it :P

To OP

If you are having doubts between a 6 core and 4 core then you have no use for a 6 core cpu and it doesn't make any sense anyway to switch to a 3770k.

[n-ster]

you'd loose too much money doing the downgrade, don't do it

[cadaveca]

I think you've had your X79 rig for nearly a year now, right?


Moving to IVB will save you on power consumption, and performance will be much the same, if not a wee bit better, if you have multiple GPUs, and use the right motherboard.

The loss on the parts ,to me, is adequate considering the time you've had that rig. Sell it off, get the new lower-power platform, and save on your power bill. You'll probably sell your 3930K for $300 or so, board for the cost of the new board...you'll lose nothing, and get new hardware to play with.


Lots of fun to be had with memory overclocking on 1155, too. sticks that did 2000 MHz on P55/X58 can do 2600, sometimes.

And as usual, I have a different perspective than most.


As to the higher overclocking..that might not happen.

[james888]

Have you thought about getting a killer water cooling loop, as in better than your h100, so you can overclock further. Maybe turn off two cores if you don't need them and see how far you can overclock without them.

[SaltyFish]

Is there a particular reason you want to go from a 3930K to a 3770K? The power-saving won't pay off if you plan on changing hardware again later in a short period of time.

If I had the money to pick up such a costly sidegrade without good reason, I'd save it for a fancy server Haswell CPU and DDR4 RAM (which isn't likely to be cheap since it won't be mainstream until 2015's Skylake).

[Caspase]

I have no idea why would you want to do such a blasphemous deed... LGA 2011 is awesome with multi GPUs, the bad thing about it is price (which you have already taken care of). With good cooling that 3930k will actually OC better than an IVY and your epeen will definetly be bigger with said 3930k.
If you want to upgrade something that doens't necessarily need upgrading why not the h100 to h100i? Or real WC?

[MetalRacer]

Since you already have a great setup just upgrade you’re cooling to improve your overclock and I think you will be happy.

I currently have both setups and would pick the 3930k over the 3770k.

[radrok]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

And as usual, I have a different perspective than most.

And we love you for that

[n-ster]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

I think you've had your X79 rig for nearly a year now, right?


Moving to IVB will save you on power consumption, and performance will be much the same, if not a wee bit better, if you have multiple GPUs, and use the right motherboard.

The loss on the parts ,to me, is adequate considering the time you've had that rig. Sell it off, get the new lower-power platform, and save on your power bill. You'll probably sell your 3930K for $300 or so, board for the cost of the new board...you'll lose nothing, and get new hardware to play with.


Lots of fun to be had with memory overclocking on 1155, too. sticks that did 2000 MHz on P55/X58 can do 2600, sometimes.

And as usual, I have a different perspective than most.


As to the higher overclocking..that might not happen.

3930k for 300? i would buy 10

[Aquinus]

If you have the money to consider getting an IVB over a SB-E, why don't you just build a new machine so you can have both? It isn't outside the realm of possibility to say that if you want to upgrade that often that you have the money to do so, is it?

[james888]

Guys guys... He is right. He needs something less that SB-e...

I wouldn't get ivy, but instead sandy. Sandy is soldered and you wouldn't have to delid your cpu to get the best temps.. It just so happens I have a 2500k.. I propose a strait up trade my motherboard and cpu for yours.. You will have your higher clocked processor and I will give your poor 3930k a loving home.. .... joking

Seriously though. Your rig is great. I think the best option is to go to higher up watercooling. Maybe even get a second rig with ivy in it. Try and do something different with it, like maybe an matx board. Its your money and your decision. Whatever makes you happiest is what you should go for.

[Lionheart]

Don't do it bro, but sell me one of your GTX 680's

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by james888

Guys guys... He is right. He needs something less that SB-e...

Really? I can't take this seriously because I've never heard a worse recommendation. This is almost as bad as a guy who thinks he/she can run SB-E without a cooler because the CPU didn't come with one.

That doesn't mean he has to get something that is less powerful. He shouldn't do anything and let his SB-E live out its life because it will suit his needs more than IVB will (and for longer). There are no problems with it and the only reason is to save power and the money you would be investing in new parts would make that point worthless. Either way he will take a loss, be it performance or money if he replaces his SB-E rig with IVB or SB. It's a bad move no matter what way you look at it.

Do not replace your 3930k or you might regret it, or at the very least you will be short enough money to have invested in an Extreme Edition instead, let me put it that way. skt2011 also has IVB-E on the way, so I see even less reason for ditching SB-E for IVB when IVB-E will be coming around before we know it.

[cadaveca]

I don't exactly agree that it's slower to move to IVB.


At 4.6 GHz, my 3770K pulls ~75W. My 3820 drew more than that at stock. My first 3960X...oh boy. 155W at stock.

For up to two GPUs, IVB seems to perform better, to me, especially if you get a board with the PLX PEX8747 chip that actually uses the chip the right way, like the Gigabyte Z77X-UP7.

When comparing the i7 3820, i7 2600K, and i7 3770K, the 3770K wins, every time, in my books.


Yes, he'll lose two cores...so unless you actually have something that uses those cores...there's nothing to be lost, performance-wise. Probably 95% of people do not use the full potential of their CPU.


NOw, if you're a cruncher, sure, X79 is best, or is you run 3-4 cards, but two or less...I find it hard to ignore IVB, in such a way that my 3960x that can do 5 GHz on air...sits on my part shelf.




Personally, I think my perspective here is different because I actively use all the current platforms. Not many do.

[n-ster]

Unless he cares about power consumption etc, keep the 3930K, seriously

[EarthDog]

Originally Posted by n-ster

Unless he cares about power consumption etc, keep the 3930K, seriously

This.

LOE to make the change is too much to me... The power savings is laughable if one does the math (again assuming he is not f@H or something with 24/7 use).