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Old Dec 10, 2012, 02:32 PM   #26
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you are such a troll

oh, you own apple products but find them inferior.

oh, you own dayz but wont install it because you heard you would get a virus

oh, you still write in cursive because you are insane
1. My job pays for them. Not me.
2. It does infect your computer. Two people I know have been hit.
3. Cursive is also FASTER to write in.

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Thats why people wear glasses, read maps and write letters
If the shit ever hits the fan, this generation under me is SO SCREWED.
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If you read the legal information on Apple's new maps, you will see that their Map information is provided by Tom Tom. So the benefit of having a Tom Tom vs iPhone is... what again?

I do have a Garmin in the car and my iPhone as backup.
Tom Tom's map data doesn't do routing, Apple's software does. Tom Tom's software is far better than Apple's.
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1. My job pays for them. Not me.
2. It does infect your computer. Two people I know have been hit.
3. Cursive is also FASTER to write in.



If the shit ever hits the fan, this generation under me is SO SCREWED.
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2. you bought a game you believe infects your computer?

3. typing is faster than writing cursive
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2. you bought a game you believe infects your computer?

3. typing is faster than writing cursive
2. I didn't buy it. It was gifted to me by a kind sir.

3. Not everything should be typed. (letter to your father for example)
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Lol, way to throw the gift back in his face.
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Lol, way to throw the gift back in his face.
Naaaa I'm gonna buy him the stand alone when it comes out to pay him back. I'm not ungrateful like that man.
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You may not. But I sure do and if they go down I aint sharing. Knowing the old ways has paid off more then once.

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Life without the internet is very simple and BILLIONS of people survive just fine without it.
I should've said I meant the people of the wealthier, western nations.

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If the shit ever hits the fan, this generation under me is SO SCREWED.[/QUOTE]

Not only their generation, but most of your generation too. And a lot of other people. Pretty much everyone actually.

I should also say i agree with you on some things. Like maps and compasses and basic fire making skills (with lighters or matches, it's not the stone ages), those are excellent things to know, and I know quite a lot about that sort of thing for being in my generation. But the thing is everything in this world builds on promises: We promise you that dollar is worth a dollar, we promise we can lend you these moneys, we promise this car will work, we promise the world will work kinda the same tomorrow. And that is what we have to work with. If we want to live and function in this world we have to make gambles, we have to work with and rely on computers, and people react to their surroundings. Why should a modern 20-something kid from Stockholm care about where milk comes from, or how to read maps without his iPhone? He has lived his entire life there, with the ubiquitous Internet constantly at his fingertips. He carries it with it, as do most people here. It is his lover, his joy, his sorrow and his life.

A lot of people (including you and me) live sheltered lives and do the best we can with what we have. That goes for everyone, and as technology and them Digitals burrow deeper and deeper into our lives we become more and more dependant on them. Will shit hit the fan? Oh yes it will, and I'm pretty convinced it'll happen sooner than later. But that doesn't give me the right to belittle people for trusting things they've been taught to trust.

tl;dr "herp derp people are people, also what are we talking about?"
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I should've said I meant the people of the wealthier, western nations.
Not only their generation, but most of your generation too. And a lot of other people. Pretty much everyone actually.

I should also say i agree with you on some things. Like maps and compasses and basic fire making skills (with lighters or matches, it's not the stone ages), those are excellent things to know, and I know quite a lot about that sort of thing for being in my generation. But the thing is everything in this world builds on promises: We promise you that dollar is worth a dollar, we promise we can lend you these moneys, we promise this car will work, we promise the world will work kinda the same tomorrow. And that is what we have to work with. If we want to live and function in this world we have to make gambles, we have to work with and rely on computers, and people react to their surroundings. Why should a modern 20-something kid from Stockholm care about where milk comes from, or how to read maps without his iPhone? He has lived his entire life there, with the ubiquitous Internet constantly at his fingertips. He carries it with it, as do most people here. It is his lover, his joy, his sorrow and his life.

A lot of people (including you and me) live sheltered lives and do the best we can with what we have. That goes for everyone, and as technology and them Digitals burrow deeper and deeper into our lives we become more and more dependant on them. Will shit hit the fan? Oh yes it will, and I'm pretty convinced it'll happen sooner than later. But that doesn't give me the right to belittle people for trusting things they've been taught to trust.

tl;dr "herp derp people are people, also what are we talking about?"
Ive lived under marshall law man. Ive looted, I've shot over peoples head to defend my stuff, Ive lived without electricity for 6+ months and Ive poached deer for fresh meat when the all powerful government has failed (like they always do). I don't rely on anything in my life for my life I cannot control or destroy. If people wanna rely on little bits of silicon for food and direction that's their choice......but its gonna be epic lulz when the "grid" goes down. I am no dooms day follower. I'm just a typical southern boy in the U.S. Ill use the latest toys sure. But I can MORE then survive without them and honestly I THRIVE in that scenario.
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Ive lived under marshall law man. Ive looted, I've shot over peoples head to defend my stuff, Ive lived without electricity for 6+ months and Ive poached deer for fresh meat when the all powerful government has failed (like they always do). I don't rely on anything in my life for my life I cannot control or destroy. If people wanna rely on little bits of silicon for food and direction that's their choice......but its gonna be epic lulz when the "grid" goes down. I am no dooms day follower. I'm just a typical southern boy in the U.S. Ill use the latest toys sure. But I can MORE then survive without them and honestly I THRIVE in that scenario.
Yeah I know that (and I knew you were gonna say what you've done you cool cool man) but now you're sheltered and you do depent on the silicone, one way or the other.

But speaking on topic, couldn't it just be a fluke in the map software? Because most GPS's I've seen bug out sometimes and require a reset.
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Yeah I know that (and I knew you were gonna say what you've done you cool cool man) but now you're sheltered and you do depent on the silicone, one way or the other.

But speaking on topic, couldn't it just be a fluke in the map software? Because most GPS's I've seen bug out sometimes and require a reset.
Thats just it man. I'm not dependent. A GPS would never put me in danger. I don't even own a smart phone! My cell is just a normal flip phone with a old school keypad.
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Yeah, I got a Sextan too. Thats right, Celestial Navigation brother.
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A company that released mapping software 3 months ago doesn't have the most reliable navigation? Wow, thanks for letting me know that captain obvious.
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This IS Apple's fault. They still had a years contract for Google Maps, and decided to release their maps app immaturely. they could have easily refined it until the contract finished and launched it with iOS 7, but iOS6 didn't really bring anything new to the table and maps was really the only new feature.
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This IS Apple's fault. They still had a years contract for Google Maps, and decided to release their maps app immaturely. they could have easily refined it until the contract finished and launched it with iOS 7, but iOS6 didn't really bring anything new to the table and maps was really the only new feature.
What are you trying to tell us? Who else's fault could it be? Lol...

Lol, iOS 6 didn't bring anythin new to the table? Get your facts straight and come back again.
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What are you trying to tell us? Who else's fault could it be? Lol... What are you tryings to tell us...

Lol, iOS 6 didn't bring anythin new to the table? Get your facts straight and come back again.
Bringing something new to the table does not equal bringing something good to the table. I think the iPhone and iOS are excellent products. They are just heavily overpriced.
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Its ok 3870x2, They will be wishing that they took a land nav course and learned to read a compass.
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Its ok 3870x2, They will be wishing that they took a land nav course and learned to read a compass.
Kids today will never have to kill and eat a goat because they have a week left but only two MREs
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This has been an issue with GPS devices since they first started hitting the market. I remember stories of GPS devices leading truckers down roads that were to narrow, or had bridges that were too low. Or leading motorists down train tracks or bike paths.

It just comes down to people needing to pay attention and not following the devices instructions without using basic common sense.
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What about these 200 features isn't good?
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I don't need "only two" MRE's left to kill and eat a goat
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"Only have two MRE's left...." Enough shit paper to last the rest of the FTX!!!
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Nonsense.

Warnings being given to motorists that iOS maps can kill you? Frankly, you probably need a shock or two to snap you out of your stupidity. Apple maps don't kill you - stupid ignorance will.
Have to side with MM here. I may have unfettered access to google maps navigation but i still like to look at a map before any trip. I don't rely on sat nav, I actually rarely use it. I use a map and plan a route. Sat Nav is back up only. Ironically i use my phones compass a lot when i'm out in new places. I can use my watch bezel as well though.

And as for writing in cursive - i thought we all still did. Can't stand text talk (though i may occasionally use 'lol')

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What are you trying to tell us? Who else's fault could it be? Lol...

Lol, iOS 6 didn't bring anythin new to the table? Get your facts straight and come back again.
Maps was one of the main features. anyway what i was trying to say that it was stupid of them to ditch google when they still had a year of service left.

but like other people are mentioning. it is true that you have to be a real dumb nut to rely 100% on the app and not look at whats right in front of you.
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