Asus crosshair v formula club

[gmastra100]

Sorry , I just noted you have a 8120 on your rig, do you think there could be a compatibility issue with vishera ?

[os2wiz]

AMD Turbo must be disabled

Originally Posted by gmastra100

Still struggling
Settings I have
Extreme Tweaker:
Ai Overclock - Manual
CPU level up - Cancel
CPU Ratio - 21
AMD Turbo - tried both Enabled/ Disabled
CPU bus - 200
PCIe - Auto
Mem freq - 1333MHz ( set by system)
CPU Spread spectrum - Disabled
PCIe spread spectrum - Disabled
EPU Power saving - Disabled
Extreame tweaking - tried both Enabled/ disabled
Cool n Quit - Alaways disabled
APM - Disabled
I cant think of anything else

I have left a message on the ASUS forum.

but really starting to think its not finger problems

CPUz 1404MHz , multiplier x7

[Super XP]

Originally Posted by gmastra100

Sorry , I just noted you have a 8120 on your rig, do you think there could be a compatibility issue with vishera ?

I also have the 8350. Just didn't update my sig. Done now

My 8120 is great, with very little CPU Voltage increase I gained on all 8-Core 1,300MHz over its default speed. Could not ask for anything better. I'll be putting her up for sale in due time.
The Crosshair V loves Bulldozer/Piledriver.

I wish I had the time to further study my Bios settings so I may further assist you? Tell you what, let me see what I can do

OK found a PM I sent someone to assist him with his settings.

Extreme Overclocking Settings:
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Level Up = Cancel
CPU Ratio = 22.0
AMD Turbo Core Tech. = Auto
CPU Bus/Peg Freq. = 200
PCIE Freq. = 110
Memory Freq. = DDR3-2133
CPU/NB Freq. = 2400 MHz
HT Link Freq. = 2600 MHz
Xtreme Tweaking = Enabled
Extreme OC = Enabled
CPU & CPU/NB Volt Mode = Manual Mode
CPU Volts = 1.375v
CPU/NB Volts = 1.25v
CPU VDDA Volts = Auto
NB Volts = 1.15v
HT Volts = 1.25v

Advanced Settings:
ASUS Core Unlocker = Enabled
CPU Core Activation = Auto

Originally Posted by os2wiz

AMD Turbo must be disabled

Interesting, I always thought leaving this disabled hinders your ability for a high OC. In my opinion, I interpret this as sort of fooling the CPU to run higher clocks but with all 8-Cores. Never really tried disabling it interestingly.

[os2wiz]

Originally Posted by gmastra100

Sorry , I just noted you have a 8120 on your rig, do you think there could be a compatibility issue with vishera ?

Your core activation should be set on manual not auto that may be the problem.

[os2wiz]

Originally Posted by Super XP

I also have the 8350. Just didn't update my sig. Done now

My 8120 is great, with very little CPU Voltage increase I gained on all 8-Core 1,300MHz over its default speed. Could not ask for anything better. I'll be putting her up for sale in due time.
The Crosshair V loves Bulldozer/Piledriver.

I wish I had the time to further study my Bios settings so I may further assist you? Tell you what, let me see what I can do

OK found a PM I sent someone to assist him with his settings.

,
Interesting, I always thought leaving this disabled hinders your ability for a high OC. In my opinion, I interpret this as sort of fooling the CPU to run higher clocks but with all 8-Cores. Never really tried disabling it interestingly.

Maybe you are right

[os2wiz]

I changed the bios to turbo core enabled. I notice no higher overlcok on my preset bios , actuaslly the bios GHZ on bootup is a little higher but in cinebench 64 it reads my cpu speed as what it would be normally 4.66 GHZ the boot up showed 4.724 GHZ. An intersting finding is that the OPEN GL score is about 2 FPS higher with Turbocore enabled. The cpu benchmark is the same as expected at 4.66 GHZ. Can't figure what that is all about. So you leave it on auto, not enabled?? And should I strart the overclock procedure all over again with turbo core on auto and see if I achieve a higher ghz on o.c.???

Originally Posted by Super XP

I also have the 8350. Just didn't update my sig. Done now

My 8120 is great, with very little CPU Voltage increase I gained on all 8-Core 1,300MHz over its default speed. Could not ask for anything better. I'll be putting her up for sale in due time.
The Crosshair V loves Bulldozer/Piledriver.

I wish I had the time to further study my Bios settings so I may further assist you? Tell you what, let me see what I can do

OK found a PM I sent someone to assist him with his settings.


Interesting, I always thought leaving this disabled hinders your ability for a high OC. In my opinion, I interpret this as sort of fooling the CPU to run higher clocks but with all 8-Cores. Never really tried disabling it interestingly.

[skellattarr]

Originally Posted by gmastra100

well am back home
tried disabling all the things I could in bios, but still the clock speed falls to 1400MHz ( 200*7)
any other thoughts, Motherboard ?

go into the bios and go to the advance tab then cpu configuration and disable core c6 state that should do the trick.

[gmastra100]

Few more settings
Core Unlocker Disabled
CPU activation Manual
C6 disabled
IOMMU disabled
Initiate Graphic adapter Tried both PEG/PCI and PCI/PEG
HPET Enabled

( monitoring Core Voltage = 0.912V)

May be connected, but I not that when I switch the computer on and am in bios the graphics card fan is slow ( cant hear it ) and this is the case until I boot up, can be 10s of minutes.
When I am in windows, I quickly start up CPUz and it shows the proessor as running at 4.2GHz ( as expected) but after about 20sec I notice that the GPU fan becomes more audible ( ie speeding up ) and its at this point that the CPU clock drops to 1400MHz .
I monitor the GPU , and its not hot .
I dont think its the PSU as its a good make ( XFX 750W ( seasonic ))
Wondering about the CFV voltage settings could there be a link ?

[os2wiz]

The core voltage of .912 volts is way too low. I assume that is when the cpu speed is dropped down. Sure seems your psu is defective. How old is the seasonic? If thr power connectors are all solidly connected for the graphics card and to motherboard. Are all your cpu fans or coolers connected properly to the correct motherboard connectors? If all connection are solid then check that psu.

Originally Posted by gmastra100

Few more settings
Core Unlocker Disabled
CPU activation Manual
C6 disabled
IOMMU disabled
Initiate Graphic adapter Tried both PEG/PCI and PCI/PEG
HPET Enabled

( monitoring Core Voltage = 0.912V)

May be connected, but I not that when I switch the computer on and am in bios the graphics card fan is slow ( cant hear it ) and this is the case until I boot up, can be 10s of minutes.
When I am in windows, I quickly start up CPUz and it shows the proessor as running at 4.2GHz ( as expected) but after about 20sec I notice that the GPU fan becomes more audible ( ie speeding up ) and its at this point that the CPU clock drops to 1400MHz .
I monitor the GPU , and its not hot .
I dont think its the PSU as its a good make ( XFX 750W ( seasonic ))
Wondering about the CFV voltage settings could there be a link ?

Are you sure you have both power connectors for the graphics card connected properly? I would test that psu
if all is connected properly.

[gmastra100]

Success

Ok after all the advice of the epu was engaged . It seems it was.
Not in bios, I had all the settings disabled. But when I was looking for voltage monitors in the AII suite under tools there was the EPU panel and it was set to max power saving.
( OK Sorry I didn't know it was there)
Anyway changing the setting to high performance did the trick.
I went from 1400MHz to 4000MHz.
I ran the wei rating and it went from 6.0 to 6.5
So went into bios and enabled all cores. Re-run the test and wei went to 7.6
so thought I would try a little O/C so I hit the fast button
Computer duly restarted this time at 4.45GHz.
I ran the wei rating and it went to 7.8
However I was running core temp and it was telling me I was hitting 80 deg on full load. So I have decided to hold back pressing the extreme OC until I get a better cooling kit.
So pleased it was not a hardware problem
But I do get warnings , like SB voltage 0V, Dram voltage 0V. temporarily , so I think they are hic cups.

Thank you for all your thoughts and help.

[os2wiz]

Originally Posted by gmastra100

Success

Ok after all the advice of the epu was engaged . It seems it was.
Not in bios, I had all the settings disabled. But when I was looking for voltage monitors in the AII suite under tools there was the EPU panel and it was set to max power saving.
( OK Sorry I didn't know it was there)
Anyway changing the setting to high performance did the trick.
I went from 1400MHz to 4000MHz.
I ran the wei rating and it went from 6.0 to 6.5
So went into bios and enabled all cores. Re-run the test and wei went to 7.6
so thought I would try a little O/C so I hit the fast button
Computer duly restarted this time at 4.45GHz.
I ran the wei rating and it went to 7.8
However I was running core temp and it was telling me I was hitting 80 deg on full load. So I have decided to hold back pressing the extreme OC until I get a better cooling kit.
So pleased it was not a hardware problem
But I do get warnings , like SB voltage 0V, Dram voltage 0V. temporarily , so I think they are hic cups.

Thank you for all your thoughts and help.

They are hiccups. By the way what kind of cooling do you have?? Just the stock fan that AMD supplied or something more elaborate? That 80degrees was the socket or core temp?? In any case it is too high and you need an H80 or preferably H100 Corsair if you want to do more extensive overclocking.
I am so happy that you were able to discover the problem. It is so easy on a computer to do something very basic wrong and not discover it until after hours of hair pulling. I know it has happened to me on several occasions. Enjoy your new setup and keep in touch.

[gmastra100]

Hi I will friend
at present I have the basic stock cooler as I sold my last one with my old motherboard. My case limits the height of an air cooler to 150mm ( without removing the cool side fan)
I was thinking if I went air cooler then Nochua-C14
but my heart wants to water cooling. But something I can slowly improve on. Not too much of a fan of AIO.
Take care and I will keep in touch

[os2wiz]

Originally Posted by gmastra100

Hi I will friend
at present I have the basic stock cooler as I sold my last one with my old motherboard. My case limits the height of an air cooler to 150mm ( without removing the cool side fan)
I was thinking if I went air cooler then Nochua-C14
but my heart wants to water cooling. But something I can slowly improve on. Not too much of a fan of AIO.
Take care and I will keep in touch

When you can afford it, a large mid-tower or full-tower case will defintiely aid in keeping thew cpu cooler. the good ones have large 230mm fans on top and side and better cable management. I have a Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra full tower case. It had two 230,mm fans on top and one side 230mm fan , 4 140pmm fans for hard drives or ssd, and a rear 140mm fan. I had to remove the 2 top fans to accomodate the 240mm radiator for the Corsair H100 liquid cooler. These things can add up fast to a lot of money, so take it one step at a time, and sell off whatever you replace so you have a down payment towards the new hardware. I spent TOO much money this year- about $1400 for the case, Radeon 7950 Graphics card, Fx-8350 cpu, hi-speed 16gb of G Skill memory, one 512GB ssd, a128GB ssd, and of course the Corsair H100. I am retired so I have no iincome other than my social security and a pension from 30 years as a hospital technologist. This stuff is fun but it can become an addiction. No matter how fast your computer is you always want it faster and you start to covet more and more expensive latest and greatest hardware. I really should pay a little more attention to the productivity applications I have and get more use out of them. We are in a global depression and it's going to last for years to come and things will be getting worse with more unemployment, wage cuts, wars for oil companies to profit, racism galore, etc etc etc. The hobby is fine but I try to keep myself grounded so that I can aid in the struggle to free ourselves from capitalist tyranny.
It's been fun helping you with your problem, I always learn something new here and most of us are humble enough that we like to give back some of what we learn.

[nt300]

Originally Posted by gmastra100

Hi I will friend
at present I have the basic stock cooler as I sold my last one with my old motherboard. My case limits the height of an air cooler to 150mm ( without removing the cool side fan)
I was thinking if I went air cooler then Nochua-C14
but my heart wants to water cooling. But something I can slowly improve on. Not too much of a fan of AIO.
Take care and I will keep in touch

You got a very nice gameing pc.

[skellattarr]

Originally Posted by gmastra100

Success

Ok after all the advice of the epu was engaged . It seems it was.
Not in bios, I had all the settings disabled. But when I was looking for voltage monitors in the AII suite under tools there was the EPU panel and it was set to max power saving.
( OK Sorry I didn't know it was there)
Anyway changing the setting to high performance did the trick.
I went from 1400MHz to 4000MHz.
I ran the wei rating and it went from 6.0 to 6.5
So went into bios and enabled all cores. Re-run the test and wei went to 7.6
so thought I would try a little O/C so I hit the fast button
Computer duly restarted this time at 4.45GHz.
I ran the wei rating and it went to 7.8
However I was running core temp and it was telling me I was hitting 80 deg on full load. So I have decided to hold back pressing the extreme OC until I get a better cooling kit.
So pleased it was not a hardware problem
But I do get warnings , like SB voltage 0V, Dram voltage 0V. temporarily , so I think they are hic cups.

Thank you for all your thoughts and help.

for your warnings on the voltages if you run ai suite and cpu-z or any aether monitoring software at the same time it will do that.

[nt300]

Originally Posted by os2wiz

The core voltage of .912 volts is way too low. I assume that is when the cpu speed is dropped down. Sure seems your psu is defective. How old is the seasonic? If thr power connectors are all solidly connected for the graphics card and to motherboard. Are all your cpu fans or coolers connected properly to the correct motherboard connectors? If all connection are solid then check that psu.

Are you sure you have both power connectors for the graphics card connected properly? I would test that psu
if all is connected properly.

Oh how doesnt the Crosshair V need two power connectors to power the CPU?

Originally Posted by os2wiz

When you can afford it, a large mid-tower or full-toer case will defintiely aid in keeping thew cpu cooler. the good ones have large 230mm fans on top and side and better cable management. I have a Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra fulltoer case. It had two 230,mm fans on top and one side 230mm fans , 4 140pmm fans for hard drives or ssd, and a rear 140mm fan. I had to remove the 2 top fans to accomodate the 240mm radiator for the Corsair H100 liquid cooler. These things can add up fast to a lot of money, so take it one step at a time, and sell off whatever you replace so you have a down payment towards the new hardware. I spent TOO much money this year- about $1400 for the case, Radeon 7950 Graphics card, Fx-8350 cpu, hi-speed 16gb of G Skill memory, and of course the Corsair H100. I am retired so I have no iincome other than my social security and a pension from 30 years as a hospital technologist. This stuff is fun but it can become an addiction. No matter how fast your computer is you always want it faster and you start to covet more and more expensive latest and greatest hardware. I really should pay a little more attention to the productivity applications I have and get more use out of them. We are in a global depression and it's going to last for years to come and things will be getting worse with more unemployment, wage cuts, wars for oil companies to profit, racism galore, etc etc etc. The hobby is fine but I try to keep myself grounded so that I can aid in the struggle to free ourselves from capitalist tyranny.
It's been fun helping you with your problem, I always learn something new here and most of us are humble enough that we like to give back some of what we learn.

If you cash straped I would recomend at least the H70 by Corsair.

[Super XP]

Originally Posted by gmastra100

Success

Ok after all the advice of the epu was engaged . It seems it was.
Not in bios, I had all the settings disabled. But when I was looking for voltage monitors in the AII suite under tools there was the EPU panel and it was set to max power saving.
( OK Sorry I didn't know it was there)
Anyway changing the setting to high performance did the trick.
I went from 1400MHz to 4000MHz.
I ran the wei rating and it went from 6.0 to 6.5
So went into bios and enabled all cores. Re-run the test and wei went to 7.6
so thought I would try a little O/C so I hit the fast button
Computer duly restarted this time at 4.45GHz.
I ran the wei rating and it went to 7.8
However I was running core temp and it was telling me I was hitting 80 deg on full load. So I have decided to hold back pressing the extreme OC until I get a better cooling kit.
So pleased it was not a hardware problem
But I do get warnings , like SB voltage 0V, Dram voltage 0V. temporarily , so I think they are hic cups.

Thank you for all your thoughts and help.

Looks like that program is not measuring the voltage properly.

[gmastra100]

Originally Posted by skellattarr

for your warnings on the voltages if you run ai suite and cpu-z or any aether monitoring software at the same time it will do that.

right again,
switched Cpuz off and messages have gone.
Soon be time to wish folks Happy Xmas, So here is to all your help, Xmas and a Happy New year. ( Well that is if the Mayans have got it wrong Again)

[Super XP]

Merry Christmas to you too and everybody on TechPowerUp.

Should have time next week to install my FX-8350. Going to pick up some Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by nt300

Oh how doesnt the Crosshair V need two power connectors to power the CPU?

Nope. It merely spreads out the power that is drawn over both EPS connectors, allowing for lower board temps and cable temps, since each will provide less overall. It'll also allow for more power when extreme clocking, but I doubt many will need it for 24/7 use.

[Super XP]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Nope. It merely spreads out the power that is drawn over both EPS connectors, allowing for lower board temps and cable temps, since each will provide less overall. It'll also allow for more power when extreme clocking, but I doubt many will need it for 24/7 use.

Speak for yourself

[os2wiz]

Originally Posted by Super XP

Merry Christmas to you too and everybody on TechPowerUp.

Should have time next week to install my FX-8350. Going to pick up some Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste.

Enjoy the holiday with your family. Speak to you again soon secret agent man!

[gmastra100]

what a bummer, water cooling is expensive !!!!
I though I could pick up parts on the cheap and assemble a good cooling option.
As they say in the UK:
Not on your nelly.
Then I thought about the All in ones. Don't really like them as they have mixed reviews.
So we go to air coolers ?
I see I can get a Noctua D-14 B grade for £30. It would mean removing the side fan. But I thought that could be my project. See how far I can overclock on load with an air cooler.
The stock cooler is not very good.
So What is my first goal 60deg C for a 30deg ambient at 4.5GHz ?
set me a realistic challenge

[Super XP]

Originally Posted by gmastra100

what a bummer, water cooling is expensive !!!!
I though I could pick up parts on the cheap and assemble a good cooling option.
As they say in the UK:
Not on your nelly.
Then I thought about the All in ones. Don't really like them as they have mixed reviews.
So we go to air coolers ?
I see I can get a Noctua D-14 B grade for £30. It would mean removing the side fan. But I thought that could be my project. See how far I can overclock on load with an air cooler.
The stock cooler is not very good.
So What is my first goal 60deg C for a 30deg ambient at 4.5GHz ?
set me a realistic challenge

Corsair's H100, 80, 70 & even 50 is a great choice. My H100 keeps my FX nice and cool

[claylomax]

Originally Posted by Super XP

Corsair's H100, 80, 70 & even 50 is a great choice. My H100 keeps my FX nice and cool

How's the noise on that thing?