3930k to 3770k ? - Page 2

Fourstaff · Dec 10, 2012, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by EarthDog

This.

LOE to make the change is too much to me... The power savings is laughable if one does the math (again assuming he is not f@H or something with 24/7 use).

If you stay in Soviet Britain its going to cost you quite a lot of money, about £1/watt-year. Not laughing matter if you run your rigs 24/7, its easily tens of pounds better spent on other things. Of course, if you can afford 3930K to begin with that is completely different matter. Other than that, hot rooms in summer.

james888 · Dec 10, 2012, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquinus

Really?

I went an italicized it to make it clear I was not being serious. I guess it was not clear.

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

At 4.6 GHz, my 3770K pulls ~75W. My 3820 drew more than that at stock. My first 3960X...oh boy. 155W at stock.

When comparing the i7 3820, i7 2600K, and i7 3770K, the 3770K wins, every time, in my books.

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

At 4.6 GHz, my 3770K pulls ~75W. My 3820 drew more than that at stock. My first 3960X...oh boy. 155W at stock.

For up to two GPUs, IVB seems to perform better, to me, especially if you get a board with the PLX PEX8747 chip that actually uses the chip the right way, like the Gigabyte Z77X-UP7.

When comparing the i7 3820, i7 2600K, and i7 3770K, the 3770K wins, every time, in my books.

Yes, he'll lose two cores...so unless you actually have something that uses those cores...there's nothing to be lost, performance-wise. Probably 95% of people do not use the full potential of their CPU.

NOw, if you're a cruncher, sure, X79 is best, or is you run 3-4 cards, but two or less...I find it hard to ignore IVB, in such a way that my 3960x that can do 5 GHz on air...sits on my part shelf.

Personally, I think my perspective here is different because I actively use all the current platforms. Not many do.

Yes, he'll lose two cores...so unless you actually have something that uses those cores...there's nothing to be lost, performance-wise. Probably 95% of people do not use the full potential of their CPU.

NOw, if you're a cruncher, sure, X79 is best, or is you run 3-4 cards, but two or less...I find it hard to ignore IVB, in such a way that my 3960x that can do 5 GHz on air...sits on my part shelf.

Personally, I think my perspective here is different because I actively use all the current platforms. Not many do.

You really do have a good a better perspective from that experience. I look at sb-e and think its a monster performer if clocked the same as my 2500k.

EarthDog · Dec 10, 2012, 07:55 PM

Thats enough for a dinner if my conversion rate is right (and assuming your math is). Then you have the time it takes to remove everything, but new, and reinstall.. My time is worth way more PER HOUR than dinner....and a movie.

Live OR Die · Dec 16, 2012, 07:28 AM

Sorry guys i forgot about this thread been really flat out at work, My GF's rig i built her has a 3770K on a ASUS P8Z77-I DELUXE and the little thing is a beast, It boot faster than mine also seem windows fast start up works on Z77 when it doesn't on X79, Also been having a few annoying problems with my board when i have external usb hdds plugged in, Also X79 i have to use a modded bios for TRIM it just seem like X79 gets no love and is less refined than Z77, Also i don't care about power saving :P.

james888 · Dec 16, 2012, 07:46 AM

Looks like you made a decision... Yes?

Naito · Dec 16, 2012, 07:51 AM

Hold out for Haswell

Live OR Die · Dec 16, 2012, 07:54 AM

Whens Haswell due out?

Naito · Dec 16, 2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Live OR Die

Whens Haswell due out?

I'd say around April for the performance variants.

Live OR Die · Dec 16, 2012, 08:03 AM

OK thanks it may pay to wait then i want to see how these chips do.

HammerON · Dec 16, 2012, 08:20 AM

I am waiting to upgrade my i7 970 with Hawell. Play as you will

You already have a great CPU and (in my opinion) should wait.

Naito · Dec 16, 2012, 08:30 AM

In case you hadn't already read it; Anand has a good article on the Haswell architecture here. Has good specification/architecture comparisons between Sandy Bridge and Nehalem. Probably the most interesting section for me, was the execution engine area.

Lionheart · Dec 16, 2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HammerON

I am waiting to upgrade my i7 970 with Hawell. Play as you will

You already have a great CPU and (in my opinion) should wait.

I just got an i7 970 and I love it, won't be changing any time soon

HammerON · Dec 16, 2012, 09:09 AM

I agree. I have a 2700K that I haven't played around with yet. However when it comes to my main gaming rig, I have not felt the need to upgrade yet...
Haswell may make me change my mind.

Pehla · Dec 16, 2012, 09:31 AM

i cant belive that ppl think going from extreme edition cpu to mainstream cpu is upgrade?!?!i dont think he is bothered by electrical bills,if so he wouldnt buy that config at first place..
i agree with someone who say that you can easily wait for broadwell to be released!! u will not see any botleneckyng by ur cpu in next few years!! i mean come on...3930k!!! i wouldnt replace it at least for 6 years of life time!!!

Naito · Dec 16, 2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HammerON

However when it comes to my main gaming rig, I have not felt the need to upgrade yet...

I think anything post-Core architecture (ie C2D, C2Q), would still be ample for most games. My mate has a rig with a W3580 @ 3.84GHz coupled with 1866MHz DDR3, that still chews up games. I myself try to go every 'Tick' since my Penryn (except Westmere as it was either dual-core or expensive hex-core). Currently on Ivy Bridge, waiting for Broadwell.

Live OR Die · Dec 16, 2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pehla

i cant belive that ppl think going from extreme edition cpu to mainstream cpu is upgrade?!?!i dont think he is bothered by electrical bills,if so he wouldnt buy that config at first place..
i agree with someone who say that you can easily wait for broadwell to be released!! u will not see any botleneckyng by ur cpu in next few years!! i mean come on...3930k!!! i wouldnt replace it at least for 6 years of life time!!!

Just wanted a higher OC with less heat don't really want to go water to much work also i move my system around a lot.

BarbaricSoul · Dec 16, 2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Live OR Die

Just wanted a higher OC with less heat don't really want to go water to much work also i move my system around a lot.

Sandy Bridge 2600k or 2700k would be better suited for that.

Aquinus · Dec 16, 2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Live OR Die

Just wanted a higher OC with less heat don't really want to go water to much work also i move my system around a lot.

You know, regardless of what CPU you would end up replacing your 3930k with, you're not going to see any performance difference. It's just a waste of money. I find little difference in my games between running at 4Ghz and 4.75Ghz. I wouldn't replace it just because it doesn't clock as high at a quad-core with less heat. You have a 6-core machine. It can handle anything, so why would you care if your clocks are higher or not if the chip you would be getting has 2 fewer cores?

The question of upgrading from a 3930k isn't a question that really should be getting asked yet, because whatever you get will be just as good or worse.

reverze · Dec 16, 2012, 03:10 PM

if you are willing to donate the chip, would be a huge upgrade for me. ( never hurts to ask )

Aquinus · Dec 16, 2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by reverze

if you are willing to donate the chip, would be a huge upgrade for me. ( never hurts to ask )

I don't suspect he will be "donating" a 600 USD CPU. I suspect if he were to change CPUs (which I still think would be a dumb idea,) he would most likely sell it since he could at least get 450 USD for it.

claylomax · Dec 16, 2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Live OR Die

Just wanted a higher OC with less heat don't really want to go water to much work also i move my system around a lot.

Then get a 3820. You lose cache but it can do 4750mhz easily or 4300mhz undervolted; it runs really cool.

Live OR Die · Dec 16, 2012, 11:29 PM

If i do buy a new 2011 chip would be a ivy-e but seeing that Haswell isn't to far away im guessing it will get a new socket, Also you are wrong i get a bottleneck from my CPU in boarderlands 2 but i don't play that any more but just saying :P.

LAN_deRf_HA · Dec 16, 2012, 11:50 PM

I can't believe there's still people so ill informed of 2011s uselessness. If you want to game you use the faster 1155, if you want a workstation use server parts.

I mean really, it's not like any of this is new news here people http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Produ....342.343.63.64

Radically higher cost, higher power consumption, and for worse performance. A total dud, and when it finally gets IVY Haswell will keep the mainstream ahead yet again. If this is your gaming platform I PITTY THE FOOL!

Aquinus · Dec 17, 2012, 12:04 AM

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