Running out of ideas to fix this problem - Page 2

MattMilne94 · Dec 7, 2012, 12:12 PM

no more replies :S

TC-man · Dec 7, 2012, 01:25 PM

Have you tried underclocking and/or loosing up the timings of the ram? Try that first if you haven't.

As for memtest, how did you test the ram modules? one by one or all at the same time? If you already test them one by one at a time, then it's okay. Otherwise you need to retest them, one by one at a time. And how many sticks/ram modules do you have? 2x 4GB or 4x 2GB sticks? If it's 4 sticks you may need to set the northbridge voltage setting a little higher (test with small increments, just to be safe).

FordGT90Concept · Dec 7, 2012, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Try underclocking it (perhaps to stock)? You can do it via ATI Overdrive in the Catalyst Control Center. Reference clocks for HD 7850 are 860 MHz GPU and 1200 MHz VRAM.

The games crash to desktop, correct? The computer isn't restarting itself?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Disable automatic restarting on system failure. Instructions here:
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/window...-windows-7.htm

After you do that, instead of restarting, the computer will show a Blue Screen of Death. Take note of the filename (e.g. nv4disp.sys) and the STOP code (e.g. 0x0000000A).

Do both of these.

Jetster · Dec 7, 2012, 02:11 PM

Did you try what I suggested?

MattMilne94 · Dec 14, 2012, 10:05 PM

Sorry - it worked for 3 days fine but it crashed again.

When i turned it back on I got this message on a black screen:

"Checking file system on C
Type of file system is NTFS

One of your disks need to be checked for consistency, you may cancel the disk check but it is strongly recommended that you continue."

It then restarted my computer and all was well again

Could this mean that it has been my hard drive the whole time?

Sorry for slow replies

If this is the case - that it is the hard drive making the crashes happen what we would be a reliable HDD which is good for gaming?

MattMilne94 · Dec 16, 2012, 11:49 AM

anyone ?

Crap Daddy · Dec 16, 2012, 12:21 PM

What HDD you have and how old is it? Have you checked the event viewer, it might give you a clue of what caused the crash.

MattMilne94 · Dec 16, 2012, 09:17 PM

I Have a ST500DM002-1BD142[500GB] (seagate) performed HD TUNE and got these results :

http://s1172.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=3

http://s1172.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=2

http://s1172.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=1

MattMilne94 · Dec 16, 2012, 09:22 PM

and its only like 2 months old

natr0n · Dec 16, 2012, 09:34 PM

Play some games with your side panel door removed to see if heat is an issue. Don't overclock anything.

If that doesn't work try another hard drive.

If that doesn't work could be PSU.

Do all your tests with the case door off though.

MattMilne94 · Dec 16, 2012, 09:35 PM

I have played games with the side panel off before and it still crashes

natr0n · Dec 16, 2012, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattMilne94

I have played games with the side panel off before and it still crashes

what are your ram timings ?

MattMilne94 · Dec 16, 2012, 10:00 PM

how do i check those?

natr0n · Dec 16, 2012, 10:01 PM

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattMilne94

how do i check those?

use the memory tab to see

MattMilne94 · Dec 16, 2012, 10:19 PM

Here is the memory tab:

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps01048f2a.png

natr0n · Dec 16, 2012, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattMilne94

Here is the memory tab:

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps01048f2a.png

command rate in the bottom 1T

change that to 2T in the bios settings.

natr0n · Dec 16, 2012, 10:40 PM

located here in your bios

dram timing control

MattMilne94 · Dec 16, 2012, 10:42 PM

what does that dO?

natr0n · Dec 16, 2012, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattMilne94

what does that dO?

That memory timing can cause crashes and issues like you are having when set to 1.

2 is usually always stable.

MattMilne94 · Dec 17, 2012, 08:57 PM

I've been reading on some other sites that that doesn't actually do anything...

Jetster · Dec 17, 2012, 10:58 PM

If he ran memtest overnight with no errors then its not the memory.

cadaveca · Dec 17, 2012, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetster

If he ran memtest overnight with no errors then its not the memory.

I do not agree. In fact, I can get any kit memtestx86 stable, and still have it crash in OS under just light load.

drdeathx · Dec 17, 2012, 11:26 PM

For Pete's sake, will you report the exact temps of the system and the card?

itsakjt · Dec 18, 2012, 02:23 AM

These types of random blue screens signifies problem with RAM or the memory controller. I have these when my system memory section is heavily overclocked and I test stability.

natr0n · Dec 18, 2012, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattMilne94

I've been reading on some other sites that that doesn't actually do anything...

Did you actually try it or are you looking for ways to avoid a fix when YOU asked for help?

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Dec 14, 2012, 10:05 PM	#30
MattMilne94 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 100 (0.48/day) Thanks: 21 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Sorry - it worked for 3 days fine but it crashed again. When i turned it back on I got this message on a black screen: "Checking file system on C Type of file system is NTFS One of your disks need to be checked for consistency, you may cancel the disk check but it is strongly recommended that you continue." It then restarted my computer and all was well again Could this mean that it has been my hard drive the whole time? Sorry for slow replies If this is the case - that it is the hard drive making the crashes happen what we would be a reliable HDD which is good for gaming? Last edited by MattMilne94; Dec 15, 2012 at 01:13 PM. Reason: need to add more

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Dec 7, 2012, 12:12 PM	#26
MattMilne94 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 100 (0.48/day) Thanks: 21 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	no more replies :S

Dec 7, 2012, 01:25 PM	#27
TC-man Join Date: May 2011 Location: Netherlands Posts: 335 (0.44/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 113 Times in 100 Posts System Specs	Have you tried underclocking and/or loosing up the timings of the ram? Try that first if you haven't. As for memtest, how did you test the ram modules? one by one or all at the same time? If you already test them one by one at a time, then it's okay. Otherwise you need to retest them, one by one at a time. And how many sticks/ram modules do you have? 2x 4GB or 4x 2GB sticks? If it's 4 sticks you may need to set the northbridge voltage setting a little higher (test with small increments, just to be safe).

Dec 7, 2012, 02:11 PM	#29
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,950 (2.36/day) Thanks: 979 Thanked 896 Times in 654 Posts System Specs	Did you try what I suggested?

Dec 16, 2012, 11:49 AM	#31
MattMilne94 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 100 (0.48/day) Thanks: 21 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	anyone ?

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Crap Daddy Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,314 (2.40/day) Thanks: 966 Thanked 974 Times in 678 Posts System Specs	What HDD you have and how old is it? Have you checked the event viewer, it might give you a clue of what caused the crash.

Dec 16, 2012, 09:17 PM	#33
MattMilne94 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 100 (0.48/day) Thanks: 21 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I Have a ST500DM002-1BD142[500GB] (seagate) performed HD TUNE and got these results : http://s1172.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=3 http://s1172.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=2 http://s1172.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=1

Dec 16, 2012, 09:22 PM	#34
MattMilne94 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 100 (0.48/day) Thanks: 21 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	and its only like 2 months old

Dec 16, 2012, 09:34 PM	#35
natr0n Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FL,USA Posts: 1,172 (2.32/day) Thanks: 261 Thanked 597 Times in 311 Posts System Specs	Play some games with your side panel door removed to see if heat is an issue. Don't overclock anything. If that doesn't work try another hard drive. If that doesn't work could be PSU. Do all your tests with the case door off though. __________________ My Youtube Channel

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Dec 16, 2012, 09:35 PM	#36
MattMilne94 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 100 (0.48/day) Thanks: 21 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I have played games with the side panel off before and it still crashes

Dec 16, 2012, 10:00 PM	#38
MattMilne94 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 100 (0.48/day) Thanks: 21 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	how do i check those?

Dec 16, 2012, 10:19 PM	#40
MattMilne94 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 100 (0.48/day) Thanks: 21 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Here is the memory tab: http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps01048f2a.png

Dec 16, 2012, 10:40 PM	#42
natr0n Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FL,USA Posts: 1,172 (2.32/day) Thanks: 261 Thanked 597 Times in 311 Posts System Specs	located here in your bios dram timing control __________________ My Youtube Channel

Dec 16, 2012, 10:42 PM	#43
MattMilne94 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 100 (0.48/day) Thanks: 21 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	what does that dO?

Dec 17, 2012, 08:57 PM	#45
MattMilne94 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 100 (0.48/day) Thanks: 21 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I've been reading on some other sites that that doesn't actually do anything...

Dec 17, 2012, 10:58 PM	#46
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Dec 17, 2012, 11:26 PM	#48
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Dec 18, 2012, 02:23 AM	#49
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