Need help, budget gaming PC

Btimmy · Dec 27, 2012, 06:19 PM

Hello tech superiors,
I am a computer illiterate person (basically) who uses a laptop at the very lowest settings to play games. I would like to buy a computer that can run games such as league of legends and Guild Wars 2 at high graphics and steady framerates, as i hear they are pretty. I have a price range of 500$-600$ so keeping the total price around 550$ would be awesome. Heres the horrible part guys: I don't have a monitor

can you guys please recommend the best build for my money or do I need to save up some more before making this purchase? Many thanks!!

drdeathx · Dec 27, 2012, 06:20 PM

Your best bet is Trinity at your price point. Look at the A10-5800 crossfired with a Radeon 6670. You could probably hit a build around $600 with no monitor. Pick up a cheapy on ebay or craigslist for the monitor IMO.

Crap Daddy · Dec 27, 2012, 06:55 PM

Intel Core i3-3220 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 55W ...

ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6...

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR...

SAPPHIRE 100355-1GOCL Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit G...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 P...

BitFenix Merc Alpha USB 3.0 BFC-MRC-100-KKX1-U3 Bl...

Around $490. Grab fast a Windows 8 upgrade for 40$ (install first Release Preview which is free).
This list that I put together for you will give you a good machine at a very reasonable price so you can try and find some more money for a decent monitor.

Btimmy · Dec 27, 2012, 07:08 PM

I have a friend who can get me windows, I'm just concerned about the frame rates and its ability to play games on high settings, because my laptop struggles with the even the very lowest settings, and this tends to damper the video game experience.

drdeathx · Dec 27, 2012, 07:30 PM

Trinity A10-5800K is better than Intel's 3220K. You will barely game with some games with Intel with a lot of choppyness....... I hate to bust your bubble but you will not be able to play on high settings with any $500-$600 budget build.

Crap Daddy · Dec 27, 2012, 07:37 PM

My list has a hd7850. 3220 is not k. That setup runs circles around an APU.

drdeathx · Dec 27, 2012, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

My list has a hd7850. 3220 is not k. That setup runs circles around an APU.

He will be over budget with your build. It does not run circles, I tested both and they trade blows. Multi threaded the Trinity is better than the 3220. I run the 3220 and the A10-5800K at home along with a 3770K and 3930K... LOL. The A10-5800K is better than the 3820K IMO.

Jetster · Dec 27, 2012, 08:14 PM

I really hate to say it but he is probably better off getting a used phenom 2 x4 with a 9650 and a monitor. He should be able to get the whole thing and stay under budget. If he finds the right packaged deal

Crap Daddy · Dec 27, 2012, 08:17 PM

Do you understand he wants to game? Do you know the difference between the integrated GPU on the A10 and a 7850? This is not about CPU syntethic benchmarks, this is about gaming. I have given him the choice to play on high settings just about any game out there for a few bucks more.

drdeathx · Dec 27, 2012, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Do you understand he wants to game? Do you know the difference between the integrated GPU on the A10 and a 7850? This is not about CPU syntethic benchmarks, this is about gaming. I have given him the choice to play on high settings just about any game out there for a few bucks more.

UMMMM, stop it. Your BUILD with the 7850 will put him over budget. Can you read? He also can use a 7850 with Trinity but that WILL PUT HIM OVER BUDGET. sheesh.......

The best bang for the buck is Trinity BTimmy.

MxPhenom 216 · Dec 27, 2012, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

UMMMM, stop it. Your BUILD with the 7850 will put him over budget. Can you read? He also can use a 7850 with Trinity but that WILL PUT HIM OVER BUDGET. sheesh.......

The best bang for the buck is Trinity BTimmy.

It doesnt put him over budget LMAO. his budget max its $600. Crap Daddy said that his build is around 490. $490 < $600

But thats without a monitor.

drdeathx · Dec 27, 2012, 08:22 PM

with monitor? LOL OK, whatever........ Quit editing pls..

Jetster · Dec 27, 2012, 08:22 PM

There is no doubt that A10-5800K is the bast bang for the buck. But it wont give him "High end graphics or high framrates" This is why I suggested used system

And stop bickering. Help the guy

drdeathx · Dec 27, 2012, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetster

there is no doubt that a10-5800k is the bast bang for the buck. But it wont give him "high end graphics or high framrates" this is why i suggested used system

+1. He will not get high settings with new at that price.

Jack1n · Dec 27, 2012, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Intel Core i3-3220 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 55W ...

ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6...

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR...

SAPPHIRE 100355-1GOCL Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit G...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 P...

BitFenix Merc Alpha USB 3.0 BFC-MRC-100-KKX1-U3 Bl...

Around $490. Grab fast a Windows 8 upgrade for 40$ (install first Release Preview which is free).
This list that I put together for you will give you a good machine at a very reasonable price so you can try and find some more money for a decent monitor.

Looks like the best option,the only thing i would change is swap that 7850 for one of these:
EVGA 02G-P4-2660-KR GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GD...

drdeathx · Dec 27, 2012, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Btimmy

Hello tech superiors,
I am a computer illiterate person (basically) who uses a laptop at the very lowest settings to play games. I would like to buy a computer that can run games such as league of legends and Guild Wars 2 at high graphics and steady framerates, as i hear they are pretty. I have a price range of 500$-600$ so keeping the total price around 550$ would be awesome. Heres the horrible part guys: I don't have a monitor

can you guys please recommend the best build for my money or do I need to save up some more before making this purchase? Many thanks!!

Only way he can hit $550 is with Trinity or a used system. Trinity will not allow high settings unfortunately.

drdeathx · Dec 27, 2012, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack1n

Looks like the best option,the only thing i would change is swap that 7850 for one of these:
EVGA 02G-P4-2660-KR GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GD...

Where is the hard drive?

Crap Daddy · Dec 27, 2012, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

UMMMM, stop it. Your BUILD with the 7850 will put him over budget. Can you read? He also can use a 7850 with Trinity but that WILL PUT HIM OVER BUDGET. sheesh.......

The best bang for the buck is Trinity BTimmy.

In my opinion Trinity is a waste of money. It gives laptop gaming performance.
He said his budget is 500-600. I provided a choice. Take your time if you want to help and
show us how much a Trinity machine will cost him. Then tell him he will play on low/medium although he said that he wants to see the beauty of a PC game in high settings.

The option of a second hand/ Phenom 2 x4 is... well an option.

drdeathx · Dec 27, 2012, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

In my opinion Trinity is a waste of money. It gives laptop gaming performance.
He said his budget is 500-600. I provided a choice. Take your time if you want to help and
show us how much a Trinity machine will cost him. Then tell him he will play on low/medium although he said that he wants to see the beauty of a PC game in high settings.

Have you tested Trinity?

Your price is over $550. There is no hard drive. Trinity and 3220 will game equally with 7850. Trinity provides better all around performance. Trinity excels in multi threading for his other tasks.

Crap Daddy · Dec 27, 2012, 08:34 PM

No. I don't have to. Countless reviews have done it. In GAMING overall the CPU is worse than an i3 and the IGP, while the best out of all crap integrated GPUs out there is miles away from a midrange discrete card.

And yes, I forgot the hard drive.

drdeathx · Dec 27, 2012, 08:55 PM

Rosewill FBM-02 Dual Fans MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case

Western Digital WD Blue WD2500AAKX 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Acer G236HLBbd Black 23" 5ms Widescreen LED Monitor

ASUS HD7770-DC-1GD5-V2 Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video ...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1339DS1S00

BIOSTAR TA75MH2 FM2 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

AMD A6-5400K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 65W Dual-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon ...

$570.92 with HDD and Monitor.

drdeathx · Dec 27, 2012, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

No. I don't have to. Countless reviews have done it. In GAMING overall the CPU is worse than an i3 and the IGP, while the best out of all crap integrated GPUs out there is miles away from a midrange discrete card.

And yes, I forgot the hard drive.

Great we established I did and that usually means a lot with hands on experience...... Sorry to be point......The above build is the ONLY NEW build that will get him in budget. I am $20 over......

jboydgolfer · Dec 27, 2012, 09:17 PM

OP, whichever way you Go, If you DO go with cList or eBay. Please take your time, and DO NOT buy before your ready. Check the Monitor, or whatever out, and don't be shy to tell the seller your NOT interested. Some good deals CAN e had, although on the other hand MANY terrible ones are waiting as well. If you lived near Me, I'd gladly donate an old Dell CRT, which is in Decent shape. Are you near Massachusetts?

BTW,,,,Deja vu anyone?lol

Crap Daddy · Dec 27, 2012, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

Rosewill FBM-02 Dual Fans MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case

Western Digital WD Blue WD2500AAKX 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Acer G236HLBbd Black 23" 5ms Widescreen LED Monitor

ASUS HD7770-DC-1GD5-V2 Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video ...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1339DS1S00

BIOSTAR TA75MH2 FM2 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

AMD A6-5400K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 65W Dual-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon ...

$570.92 with HDD and Monitor.

Fair enough. Even if I don't see the links, if I throw in your monitor and the HDD the i3 build will go to around $660 for 30% more performance.

You propose a dual core Trinity for gaming?

drdeathx · Dec 27, 2012, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

Great we established I did and that usually means a lot with hands on experience...... Sorry to be point......The above build is the ONLY NEW build that will get him in budget. I am $20 over......

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Fair enough. Even if I don't see the links, if I throw in your monitor and the HDD the i3 build will go to around $660.

You propose a dual core Trinity for gaming?

Its all New Egg. It is the Budget Crap daddy. All one can pull off new........He could go A10-5800K with a Radeon 6670 crossfired but the 7770 will get him better graphics. Don't think a dual core will affect his gaming.... The other option is look for a 955 or 965 cheap and a cheap 970 motherboard.... If he lives by a Micro center, they have x 3 Athlons for $29 to $39.......

Dec 27, 2012, 06:19 PM	#1
Btimmy Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 4 (0.02/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Need help, budget gaming PC Hello tech superiors, I am a computer illiterate person (basically) who uses a laptop at the very lowest settings to play games. I would like to buy a computer that can run games such as league of legends and Guild Wars 2 at high graphics and steady framerates, as i hear they are pretty. I have a price range of 500$-600$ so keeping the total price around 550$ would be awesome. Heres the horrible part guys: I don't have a monitor can you guys please recommend the best build for my money or do I need to save up some more before making this purchase? Many thanks!!

System Name:	Halloween Boo!
Processor:	Intel Core i7 3770K
Motherboard:	Gigabyte Z77-Up7
Cooling:	Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240
Memory:	16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz
Video Card:	3 x Radeon 7970
Hard Disk:	OCZ Revo Drive 240G
Optical Drive:	Asus
CRT/LCD Model:	24 inch Viewsonic
Case:	Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench
PSU:	Nexus 1100 watt

System Name:	Dusty/Rusty
Processor:	i5-2500K/E8400
Motherboard:	ASRock P67Extreme4/ASRock 4core1600P35
Cooling:	CM Hyper TX3/Intel stock
Memory:	4x2GB Kingston HyperX/2x2GB DDR2
Video Card:	EVGA GTX570SC/Palit GTX560SE
Hard Disk:	WD BlueCaviar 500GB/Spinpoint F3 1TB/Seagate Barracuda 500 GB
Optical Drive:	LG/Asus
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung SyncMaster T220/Samsung 32" LCD TV
Case:	Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced/El Cheapo
Sound Card:	Asus Xonar D1/Denon PMA500AE/Senn HD518/Sony SSB1000
PSU:	Corsair TX650/Corsair TX650M
Software:	Windows 7/Windows 8 Pro

System Name:	Halloween Boo!
Processor:	Intel Core i7 3770K
Motherboard:	Gigabyte Z77-Up7
Cooling:	Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240
Memory:	16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz
Video Card:	3 x Radeon 7970
Hard Disk:	OCZ Revo Drive 240G
Optical Drive:	Asus
CRT/LCD Model:	24 inch Viewsonic
Case:	Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench
PSU:	Nexus 1100 watt

System Name:	Dusty/Rusty
Processor:	i5-2500K/E8400
Motherboard:	ASRock P67Extreme4/ASRock 4core1600P35
Cooling:	CM Hyper TX3/Intel stock
Memory:	4x2GB Kingston HyperX/2x2GB DDR2
Video Card:	EVGA GTX570SC/Palit GTX560SE
Hard Disk:	WD BlueCaviar 500GB/Spinpoint F3 1TB/Seagate Barracuda 500 GB
Optical Drive:	LG/Asus
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung SyncMaster T220/Samsung 32" LCD TV
Case:	Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced/El Cheapo
Sound Card:	Asus Xonar D1/Denon PMA500AE/Senn HD518/Sony SSB1000
PSU:	Corsair TX650/Corsair TX650M
Software:	Windows 7/Windows 8 Pro

Dec 27, 2012, 06:20 PM	#2
drdeathx Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 1,776 (1.19/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 406 Times in 327 Posts System Specs	Your best bet is Trinity at your price point. Look at the A10-5800 crossfired with a Radeon 6670. You could probably hit a build around $600 with no monitor. Pick up a cheapy on ebay or craigslist for the monitor IMO.

Dec 27, 2012, 06:55 PM	#3
Crap Daddy Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,314 (2.40/day) Thanks: 966 Thanked 974 Times in 678 Posts System Specs	Intel Core i3-3220 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 55W ... ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6... G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR... SAPPHIRE 100355-1GOCL Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit G... CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 P... BitFenix Merc Alpha USB 3.0 BFC-MRC-100-KKX1-U3 Bl... Around $490. Grab fast a Windows 8 upgrade for 40$ (install first Release Preview which is free). This list that I put together for you will give you a good machine at a very reasonable price so you can try and find some more money for a decent monitor.

Dec 27, 2012, 07:08 PM	#4
Btimmy Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 4 (0.02/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have a friend who can get me windows, I'm just concerned about the frame rates and its ability to play games on high settings, because my laptop struggles with the even the very lowest settings, and this tends to damper the video game experience.

Dec 27, 2012, 07:30 PM	#5
drdeathx Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 1,776 (1.19/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 406 Times in 327 Posts System Specs	Trinity A10-5800K is better than Intel's 3220K. You will barely game with some games with Intel with a lot of choppyness....... I hate to bust your bubble but you will not be able to play on high settings with any $500-$600 budget build.

Dec 27, 2012, 07:37 PM	#6
Crap Daddy Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,314 (2.40/day) Thanks: 966 Thanked 974 Times in 678 Posts System Specs	My list has a hd7850. 3220 is not k. That setup runs circles around an APU.

Dec 27, 2012, 08:14 PM	#8
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,952 (2.36/day) Thanks: 979 Thanked 898 Times in 656 Posts System Specs	I really hate to say it but he is probably better off getting a used phenom 2 x4 with a 9650 and a monitor. He should be able to get the whole thing and stay under budget. If he finds the right packaged deal

System Name:	Delta // HTPC
Processor:	Intel i7 3770K // Intel i3 550 3.2Ghz
Motherboard:	ASRock Z77 Extreme6 // Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H Socket 1156
Cooling:	Corsair H100 // SILVERSTONE NT07-1156 90mm
Memory:	Corsair Vengeance 1866 16gb //Corsair DDR3 1600 4 Gb
Video Card:	HIS 7950 3 Gb //Sapphire 6670 1 Gb
Hard Disk:	Samsung 840 250 SSD, WD Caviar Blue 500// Corsair M4 64 Gb Solid State, SAMSUNG F4 2 Tb, WD 1 Tb
Optical Drive:	LG DVDR 24X // Lite on DVDR 24X
CRT/LCD Model:	HP 23xi IPS 1080p" // 50" Samsung Plasma 720p
Case:	Corsair Obsidian Series 550D // Silverstone Granada GD05
Sound Card:	ASUS Xonar DS // HDMI Bit Stream to Yamaha RX V571
PSU:	Seagate M12II 750 // Corsair CX 430
Software:	Windows 7 64bit // Windows 7 64bit with XBMC Eden
Benchmarks:	I scored P9327 in 3DMark 11

Dec 27, 2012, 08:17 PM	#9
Crap Daddy Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,314 (2.40/day) Thanks: 966 Thanked 974 Times in 678 Posts System Specs	Do you understand he wants to game? Do you know the difference between the integrated GPU on the A10 and a 7850? This is not about CPU syntethic benchmarks, this is about gaming. I have given him the choice to play on high settings just about any game out there for a few bucks more.

System Name:	My System
Processor:	Intel Core i5 2500k @ 4.5GHZ 1.36v
Motherboard:	AsRock Extreme4 Gen3 P67
Cooling:	EK Supremacy w/ Black Ice X-Flow 240
Memory:	Corsair Dominator Platinums 8GB 4GBx2 2133mhz 1.5v
Video Card:	EVGA Geforce GTX780 3GB
Hard Disk:	Samsung 830 128GB SSD, Corsair Neutron 240GB, Samsung F3 500GB
Optical Drive:	Asus 24x SATA DVD
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell U2412M IPS 24" 1920 x 1200
Case:	Corsair Carbide Series 500r w/ 2x Corsair AF120 fans
Sound Card:	HT Omega Striker 7.1
PSU:	Corsair HX850 Gen1 Silver
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1

Dec 27, 2012, 08:22 PM	#12
drdeathx Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 1,776 (1.19/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 406 Times in 327 Posts System Specs	with monitor? LOL OK, whatever........ Quit editing pls..

Processor:	Intel Core i5 3570K @ 4.5Ghz
Motherboard:	Gigabyte Z77X UD5H
Cooling:	Antec H20 920
Memory:	Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR3 2x4GB 2000mhz 9-11-10-24 CR-1
Video Card:	Gigabyte 7950 WF3 Rev2 1150/1450
Hard Disk:	WD Velociraptor 150GB/Hitachi Deskstar 7K3 2TB
Optical Drive:	Samsung DVD Writer
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung T220P 1920x1200
Case:	Coolermaster 690
Sound Card:	Creative X-FI Titanium + Sennheiser PC360
PSU:	Corsair TX850 (2009 version)
Software:	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1

Dec 27, 2012, 08:34 PM	#20
Crap Daddy Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,314 (2.40/day) Thanks: 966 Thanked 974 Times in 678 Posts System Specs	No. I don't have to. Countless reviews have done it. In GAMING overall the CPU is worse than an i3 and the IGP, while the best out of all crap integrated GPUs out there is miles away from a midrange discrete card. And yes, I forgot the hard drive.

Dec 27, 2012, 08:55 PM	#21
drdeathx Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 1,776 (1.19/day) Thanks: 45 Thanked 406 Times in 327 Posts System Specs	Rosewill FBM-02 Dual Fans MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case Western Digital WD Blue WD2500AAKX 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Acer G236HLBbd Black 23" 5ms Widescreen LED Monitor ASUS HD7770-DC-1GD5-V2 Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video ... CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1339DS1S00 BIOSTAR TA75MH2 FM2 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard AMD A6-5400K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 65W Dual-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon ... $570.92 with HDD and Monitor.

Dec 27, 2012, 09:17 PM	#23
jboydgolfer Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: ma Posts: 355 (1.45/day) Thanks: 55 Thanked 43 Times in 38 Posts System Specs	OP, whichever way you Go, If you DO go with cList or eBay. Please take your time, and DO NOT buy before your ready. Check the Monitor, or whatever out, and don't be shy to tell the seller your NOT interested. Some good deals CAN e had, although on the other hand MANY terrible ones are waiting as well. If you lived near Me, I'd gladly donate an old Dell CRT, which is in Decent shape. Are you near Massachusetts? BTW,,,,Deja vu anyone?lol

System Name:	Internet/Gaming/basement
Processor:	i5 2500k @stock
Motherboard:	Asrock Extreme 3 Gen 3
Cooling:	Corsair H-70
Memory:	16 Gb kingston Hyper X
Video Card:	Powercolor HD 6950
Hard Disk:	Seagate Flounder(barracuda)
Optical Drive:	Junk
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell Ultra Sharp Widescreen 24"
Case:	Thermaltake commander
Sound Card:	Realtech P.O.S Edition X1789,Ver2.78
PSU:	Corsair cx600
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