Natural Selection 2 (NS2) - FPS/RTS with depth

[james888]

I am over 400 hours right now. Played 3 hours tonight scrimming.

Originally Posted by alucard13mmfmj

I dunno. I had fun having a chance on the losing team to turn things around... or ninja hives with siege/shotguns.

Those all exist. You just havn't seen them yet. They don't happen in pubs very often either because they require coordination. In semicompetitive games you see more stuff like that. In pubs you can come back but in competitive games your one mistake is often your last. Give the game more hours. You will start to see some awesome games.

If you want ns1 with better graphics check this out. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ns2c

[AphexDreamer]

I cannot get my mic to work in game for the life of me.

Love this game, but lack of mic is killing me, literally in game.

Mic works everywhere else but NS2.

[james888]

I've had a problem before where my mic would not work in ns2 but a quick restart fixed the problem. Glad to see another TPUer playing NS2.

[AphexDreamer]

I've restarted... and just in the spirit. I'll restart once more.

[james888]

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

I've restarted... and just in the spirit. I'll restart once more.

Lol. Most problems are easy enough to be fixed with a simple restart. The worst ones arn't.

I would point you to the NS2 technical forums but it looks like you are already there. RobSpewack? This is the thread. If it is not you this guy has a similar problem.

[Eternalchaos]

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

I've restarted... and just in the spirit. I'll restart once more.

If it is still not working you try looking on the UWE forum http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/for...?showforum=108

[AphexDreamer]

I'm on there in two discussions (As Nonlin). One being the one you linked. No help from there or the steam forums. So I turned here as a last resort.

I'm playing but not entirely with content.

[james888]

Ya. Ns2 is a team game and you almost need a mic to communicate effectively. If you feel like playing with some more competitive players let me know. I am in a clan but we don't scrim much.

[AphexDreamer]

Originally Posted by james888

Ya. Ns2 is a team game and you almost need a mic to communicate effectively. If you feel like playing with some more competitive players let me know. I am in a clan but we don't scrim much.

As soon as I get my mic working XD.

I think the game fails to pick up sound because its set to accept feed when its 20db. The current drivers for the Ps3 eye don't let you adjust the mic volume and windows recognizes it as 0.00dB. If the game reads that then it might think my mic has no volume. Complete guess though.

So any other USB mic that is the same way would have to suffer from this. Aux mics wouldn't have this problem.

[james888]

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

As soon as I get my mic working XD.

I think the game fails to pick up sound because its set to accept feed when its 20db. The current drivers for the Ps3 eye don't let you adjust the mic volume and windows recognizes it as 0.00dB. If the game reads that then it might think my mic has no volume. Complete guess though.

So any other USB mic that is the same way would have to suffer from this. Aux mics wouldn't have this problem.

I use my usb webcam for a mic and I don't have any problems really. My clan also has a ts3 channel we are usually on instead.

[AphexDreamer]

Originally Posted by james888

I use my usb webcam for a mic and I don't have any problems really. My clan also has a ts3 channel we are usually on instead.

It would be of great help to me if you could tell me what your USB mics volume is?

And yeah I'll play via teamspeak.

[catnipkiller]

Played it once and uninstalled it. You either roll the other team or get rolled and i don't see how they can fix it.

[james888]

Originally Posted by catnipkiller

Played it once and uninstalled it. You either roll the other team or get rolled and i don't see how they can fix it.

That does happen from time to time. When I am just playing by myself I often go from server to server till I find one that works for me. I really like very balanced games, even more than my team rolling the other, so I look for that. Thats why I try to play with the same people if I can so I know it will be better.

Playing a game once makes a person have a great opinion. Just saying...

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

It would be of great help to me if you could tell me what your USB mics volume is?

And yeah I'll play via teamspeak.

In windows->sound->Microphone properties it says the microphone is set at +45db. If there is an ns2 setting for mic volume I can not find it.

[AphexDreamer]

Originally Posted by james888

That does happen from time to time. When I am just playing by myself I often go from server to server till I find one that works for me. I really like very balanced games, even more than my team rolling the other, so I look for that. Thats why I try to play with the same people if I can so I know it will be better.

Playing a game once makes a person have a great opinion. Just saying...


In windows->sound->Microphone properties it says the microphone is set at +45db. If there is an ns2 setting for mic volume I can not find it.

Exactly my point. I believe those who have the mic issue are with USB's that have their mic volume value stuck at zero. I can't change mine, I think it would help but I can't. So the game should have such a restriction removed or fixed, assuming that is in fact the issue.

[james888]

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

Exactly my point. I believe those who have the mic issue are with USB's that have their mic volume value stuck at zero. I can't change mine, I think it would help but I can't. So the game should have such a restriction removed or fixed, assuming that is in fact the issue.

You could try to search the ini file or its ns2 equivalent for such a setting. Just use cntrl f to make it quick. If those threads brought you nothing, maybe pm a dev or a good modder and just shoot your theory.

[AphexDreamer]

I started something about it here.

https://getsatisfaction.com/unknownw...in_game-1g165i

[Eternalchaos]

Originally Posted by catnipkiller

Played it once and uninstalled it. You either roll the other team or get rolled and i don't see how they can fix it.

NS depends alot on the players knowing the maps and being able to follow the commander's suggestions/orders (if you have a good commander ) and player stacking is not new to the game.

You need to remember that this is was a HL1 mod before becoming a standalone game, plus balance and new feature are going to be added over time.

just give it a good 20 hours and you will enjoy it

[Velvet Wafer]

still no test weekend... if they want to stay alive, they rather make one...intesting game but pretty unfriendly regarding newcomers

[james888]

Originally Posted by Velvet Wafer

still no test weekend... if they want to stay alive, they rather make one...intesting game but pretty unfriendly regarding newcomers

There was the people in beta who most of them had already been ns1 players. Then there was the total biscuit video during beta that brought in soooo many more people. Then there was the games realease that brought in soooooooooo many more people. Just recently there was a holiday sale bringing the game below $10 that has brought in a big bunch of people. I would think the next thing to do would be a free weekend but that is just a guess. Just wait velvet, the devs said they would do it.

[james888]

Actually ns2 is still on sale until the 5th. 40% off. I apparently lied when I said the sale brought the game below $10... Heard that from another player.... My bad.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/4920/

[AphexDreamer]

So the game is complaining about my recording device.

Found this located in C:\Users\(Insert Name)\AppData\Roaming\Natural Selection 2

Render Device: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series (8.17.10.1169)
Error: Couldn't start recording (Unsupported file or audio format. )
Sound Device: Speakers (2- Creative SB X-Fi) 7.1
Record Device: Microphone (USB Camera-B4.09.24.1)
Error: 2 memory leaks in 'Sound' (136 bytes)


I think on the second line there that is due to my microphone having its sample rate and bitdepth fixed due to driver restrictions. The games won't except my 16bit 16000hz tape recorder quality.

[james888]

One step closer to getting your mic working.

[AphexDreamer]

Well I've done as much research as I can and other than me getting a different mic or the game being patched to accept my mics format there is nothing that can be done.

There are a few others that have had my issues but I've posted everywhere possible about this and commented on every thread with this issues and have heard no reply from anyone lol. Except here of course

[Zen_]

How long does this game take to learn if you have played competitive FPS's in the past, but not NS? How is the competitive community maturity wise?

[AphexDreamer]

Originally Posted by Zen_

How long does this game take to learn if you have played competitive FPS's in the past, but not NS? How is the competitive community maturity wise?

Well no matter how many FPS you've played your going to have to learn how to track down aliens and what their weaknesses are (Since aliens can cloak, walk on walls, gas you, etc...). That might take you a few rounds to figure out. Killing alone won't guarantee you a win, you need to be able to work with the team to push forward and having a commander who knows what he is doing is absolutely essential to win a game.

The game can get pretty competitive and its a matter of how serious you, your team and your commander are.