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Old Dec 22, 2012, 04:21 AM   #1
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Intel Old BIOS To New VISUAL BIOS Modification?

Is there anyone in the forum with the skills and knowledge of BIOS codding, modification, basically the BIOS creation skills, I have no clue how its done, If i had the knowledge I would do it my self.

I'm using a screen shot for DZ68BC as example for old BIOS, and a screen shot for DZ77GA-70K as the VISUAL BIOS.

If anyone can please modify for me the DZ68BC BIOS to look like and function like the DZ77GA-70K VISUAL BIOS. and even if bugs are detected please don't hesitate to correct them if you find them in the BIOS code.

BIOS for Intel DZ68BC Latest:
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For those with the skills and up for the task, I would like the modified BIOS for DZ68BC in the BIO form.
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Old Dec 27, 2012, 05:16 PM   #2
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Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you're asking for is really feasible. The boards themselves are going to have significantly different chips and features, which is the first obstacle I see. The BIOSes are built to interpret the readings they receive from the various chips specific to the different boards. While theoretically/imaginatively it would make sense that you should be able to copy the hardware settings/readings from the Z68 board's BIOS into the framework of the Z77 board's BIOS, it's unfortunately not that easy. I have a feeling that the BIOSes themselves are obfuscated (scrambled), encrypted, or otherwise encoded so they can't be modified. It'd be somewhat akin to asking someone to add Yahoo Messenger functionality to Microsoft Word. All the person would have to work with is the .dll and .exe files of both programs. If you open those up in Notepad, you'll see what I mean.

I, too, wish I could get my Intel board a UEFI BIOS. It'd look a lot better than the white text on black background that it currently has, even better still than the blue background an earlier revision had.
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Old Dec 27, 2012, 05:35 PM   #3
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Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you're asking for is really feasible. The boards themselves are going to have significantly different chips and features, which is the first obstacle I see.
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If anyone can please modify for me the DZ68BC BIOS to look like and function like the DZ77GA-70K VISUAL BIOS.
^ Is what I'm asking if your not sure what I'm asking.
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^ Is what I'm asking if your not sure what I'm asking.
Differences in the types of BIOS there. First picture was of a standard BIOS from the good-old days. Newer motherboards have an uEFI BIOS installed on the ROM chip. uEFI is very different than an original BIOS, and usually the two are not compatible. It's likely your motherboard would not support a uEFI BIOS if it did not come with one installed from the factory.

If you can find an example of a higher budget board in the lineup of your make/model motherboard that HAS an uEFI BIOS and has the same ROM chips on board, you MAY be able to make this happen, but it's likely that it won't be completely stable.
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Differences in the types of BIOS there. First picture was of a standard BIOS from the good-old days. Newer motherboards have an uEFI BIOS installed on the ROM chip. uEFI is very different than an original BIOS, and usually the two are not compatible. It's likely your motherboard would not support a uEFI BIOS if it did not come with one installed from the factory.

If you can find an example of a higher budget board in the lineup of your make/model motherboard that HAS an uEFI BIOS and has the same ROM chips on board, you MAY be able to make this happen, but it's likely that it won't be completely stable.
What do you mean UEFI? My motherboard has the UEFI in the BIOS i can enable or disable it, that's why I refer to the new BIOS as they call it VISUAL BIOS

I just need the interface changed to look like the VISUAL BIOS
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We know what you want. We're just suggesting it's extremely unlikely.
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We know what you want. We're just suggesting it's extremely unlikely.
Do you know of a tool i can use to read the Intel BIOS and allow editing/changing of values in the Intel BIO File? if you know please point me to where i can get the software/tool
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Do you know of a tool i can use to read the Intel BIOS and allow editing/changing of values in the Intel BIO File? if you know please point me to where i can get the software/tool
Not likely that there is one. Certain sectors of a BIOS boot ROM are usually protected.
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ask here http://bios-mods.com/ if they give it the thumbs down your SOL
site is down for service try later
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No one is going to modify a bios for you. the new bios is built for the z77 board. If you want that BIOS get that board.
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Meh UEFI is overrated anyway.

A serious question: Why?
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ask here http://bios-mods.com/ if they give it the thumbs down your SOL
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Meh UEFI is overrated anyway.

A serious question: Why?
The visual aspect is overrated its true, I prefer to call it Visual as Intel calls it coz my Z68 BIOS is UEFI any way.

The why? Its coz i just feel it can be done, and I'm already tired of the board I'll probably be getting Haswell and 8 Series next year. So i want the board to look lively before i ditch it for something new in the not so distant future, at list i will have achieved something that is not commonly done if it all works out
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uEFI and BIOS are one of those things where the axiom "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is more than true. You've been living with a text based BIOS for how many product generations now? And you want to potentially brick the motherboard just because you want to see shiny objects on your screen for the very small fraction of time you spend adjusting BIOS settings before your machine boots?
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Meh UEFI is overrated anyway.

A serious question: Why?
Frick is right. Gigabyte tried to release the UEFI bios for some of its Z68 boards and it killed some features. I had to downgrade back to the regular bios cause it was the most stable. I would not worry about it and just leave it how it is.
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This can't be modded in reasonable time. Unless Intel releases a BIOS update your best bet is to just buy a new board.
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The why? Its coz i just feel it can be done, and I'm already tired of the board I'll probably be getting Haswell and 8 Series next year. So i want the board to look lively before i ditch it for something new in the not so distant future, at list i will have achieved something that is not commonly done if it all works out
A good enough reason.
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This can't be modded in reasonable time. Unless Intel releases a BIOS update your best bet is to just buy a new board.
I'm not in a hurry with this BIOS mod if it can be done let who ever can do it take his time even if i will have changed the motherboard by the time someone manages to mod one for me I will be more than happy to try it on the DZ68BC mobo if i will still be having it.

The Intel part of releasing a Visual Bios update, i have heard several rumors that they are working on a VISUAL BIOS for 6 series mobos mostly the Z68 & Z67 ones plus 7 series X79 ones, but i guess its just a rumor, anyway one time on a chat with an Intel tech rep who told me that they've had of such an update in the works, that was like 5 months ago.
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no way no how
not possible
not gonna happen ... ever
not feasible
can not be done
CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU ?
the flashrom on that motherboard is to small and no intel is not working on any sort of UEFI update for there older boards it would be a waste of time for absolutely no gain
also bugs in a bios usually lead to a expensive brick
feel free to try and flash or MOD that z77 bios then you can promptly throw the motherboard in the trash a buy a UEFI board
if you feel it can be done then do it your self its your board you can brick it if you want to

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Don't waste your time. It's never going to happen. Plus, what is the point? The UEFI visual BIOS doesn't offer any more options than the BIOS you have now. Your last concern should be how your BIOS looks and you should focus on how it works and on how well it does its job. What you have works perfectly fine. Don't go doing something stupid because it's not pretty enough.

All in all, don't mess with it and if you don't like it, just replace the board or deal with it.
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no way no how
not possible
not gonna happen ... ever
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CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU ?
the flashrom on that motherboard is to small and no intel is not working on any sort of UEFI update for there older boards it would be a waste of time for absolutely no gain
also bugs in a bios usually lead to a expensive brick
feel free to try and flash or MOD that z77 bios then you can promptly throw the motherboard in the trash a buy a UEFI board
if you feel it can be done then do it your self its your board you can brick it if you want to

I have stated it before and i will say it again, IF I KNEW HOW TO MOD THE BIOS ON MY OWN i would gladly do it on my own with no ones help. And my BIOS is currently UEFI its just not Visual BIOS. I'm smart enough to know that the BIOS ROM size for Z77 & Z68 Intel Boards are same size, so size/capacity is not the issue
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I have stated it before and i will say it again, IF I KNEW HOW TO MOD THE BIOS ON MY OWN i would gladly do it on my own with no ones help. And my BIOS is currently UEFI its just not Visual BIOS.
you can state it as many-times as you like nobody here is gonna be stupid enough to help you break your motherboard
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you can state it as many-times as you like nobody here is gonna be stupid enough to help you break your motherboard
No one is calling any one stupid, Watch your words coz i dint say that
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Having a visual interface for the BIOS is not nearly as compelling as you might think. My current motherboard has one, and while it was a nifty novelty at first, after two weeks I wasn't even noticing it anymore. Truth be told I haven't looked at it more than once in the past three months.

The differences that REALLY matter are all under the hood anyway.
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Having a visual interface for the BIOS is not nearly as compelling as you might think. My current motherboard has one, and while it was a nifty novelty at first, after two weeks I wasn't even noticing it anymore. Truth be told I haven't looked at it more than once in the past three months.

The differences that REALLY matter are all under the hood anyway.
I hate mine I would gladly trade it for one with a simple interface its a pain the the ass most of the time
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Having a visual interface for the BIOS is not nearly as compelling as you might think. My current motherboard has one, and while it was a nifty novelty at first, after two weeks I wasn't even noticing it anymore. Truth be told I haven't looked at it more than once in the past three months.

The differences that REALLY matter are all under the hood anyway.
True, I wanted it just for the sake of wanting something different to what I'm used to. I totally get your point, coz i have a different PC with ASUS P8Z77-V Pro Board that has a Visual Bios the pc is not my main rig and I only went to BIOS the first time while setting it up i was setting memory to 1600 that was it never checked the BIOS again i barely even use the PC, coz i prefer my Intel Board over the ASUS one.

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I hate mine I would gladly trade it for one with a simple interface its a pain the the ass most of the time
They can be pain at times, Just to let you know on Intel Boards that have VISUAL BIOS you can switch it to Classic text style if you want, a very cool feature that is handy partly why I want a Visual Bios mainly the Intel one
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