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Old Dec 30, 2012, 11:54 PM   #1
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So recently my computer started freezing. Cool.
I'm not sure what it is yet, but sometimes my computer freezes when it's idle.
I have to then restart and sometimes my display doesn't turn on, or I receive a bluescreen (picture below).

I monitored my GPU and CPU temps when my comp froze, and they were both at normal, cool temps, so I'm not sure if it could be any of those components.

Have not tested my ram yet though.

But here is the recent windows error recovery msg:


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Old Dec 30, 2012, 11:58 PM   #2
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116 usually implys either a power fault or some other hard fault given that your psu is of a less then quality brand I would start there
the failure to reboot and or bsod after attempting to reboot and the locksups at idle strengthens this assumption
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 12:06 AM   #3
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116 usually implys either a power fault or some other hard fault given that your psu is of a less then quality brand I would start there
the failure to reboot and or bsod after attempting to reboot and the locksups at idle strengthens this assumption
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Is there anyway I can test it?
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 12:09 AM   #4
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you can try disconnecting all devices that draw power to see if that helps at all but its not really a reliable method I would replace the PSU with a something from quality vendor you can always return it if its not the problem
else you can down-clock the gpu/cpu and cut the voltages and see if that helps running a memtest overnight can't hurt either
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you can try disconnecting all devices that draw power to see if that helps at all but its not really a reliable method I would replace the PSU with a something from quality vendor you can always return it if its not the problem
else you can down-clock the gpu/cpu and cut the voltages and see if that helps running a memtest overnight can't hurt either
I'll still run memtest, but I am starting to look for some PSU's.
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I would download that 2500k to 1500Mhz Drop the voltage to 0.9 and then run memtest overnight to
if it is the psu we wanna take as much strain off it as we can so you can get a accurate result from memtest else if you don't know how to adjust those voltages pull the 6970 and run memtest using the onboard video
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I received BCCode 116 bluescreens as well as blank screen freezes when one of my GTX 460s died. Do 3D applications work alright or have you not tested those? Don't rule out anything because I said this; I'm just offering my findings when I got the BCCode 116 bluescreens on one of my rigs.
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I received BCCode 116 bluescreens as well as blank screen freezes when one of my GTX 460s died. Do 3D applications work alright or have you not tested those? Don't rule out anything because I said this; I'm just offering my findings when I got the BCCode 116 bluescreens on one of my rigs.
It could be the GPU but thats hard to tell without a reliable psu installed
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So what do you guys recommended doing?
Any sort of GPU test?
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So what do you guys recommended doing?
Any sort of GPU test?
stress testing the gpu won't do any good unless you can be SURE that the psu is not the problem FIRST
stress testing the system will make the power draw jump witch could make it look like the other compoents are is at fault when its not
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So I'm in a pickle! Awesome!
Wear to throw my money...lol
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So I'm in a pickle! Awesome!
Wear to throw my money...lol
this is why you WAIT FOR IT

NEVER SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY\
There is so much more to a PSU then what it claims to be rated for before you buy anything run it by someone that knows
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I'm just going to buy a new GPU and PSU and test using them both.
Is that a good idea?

Update: my PSU isnt a Kingston, but a Kingwin lol

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Update: my PSU isnt a Kingston, but a Kingwin lol
even worse lol
if its this one
KINGWIN Lazer Gold Series LZG-1000 1000W ATX 12V v...

looks like they fail after about a year
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even worse lol
if its this one
KINGWIN Lazer Gold Series LZG-1000 1000W ATX 12V v...

looks like they fail after about a year
Lol that's the higher wattage one and that's failing? Not good!

I have a MicroCenter near me and I'm going to go get a new PSU first thing tomorrow. What do you recommend for near $100?
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wrong paste nm shows there built quality non the less

if you would't mind pming your zip ill see what your local microcenter has in stock thats decent
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if you would't mind pming your zip ill see what your local microcenter has in stock thats decent
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if you wanna order online
http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...Supply_HCG-750
http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...r_Power_Supply
http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...X_Power_Supply

http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...r_Power_Supply
http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...r_Power_Supply
any one of those will do
AVOID the corsair CX series
in stock at that store in MI are
http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...X_Power_Supply
http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...X_Power_Supply
http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...r_Power_Supply
http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...r_Power_Supply
really tho you only _need_ about a 650 for that system

if it was my machine I would go with the PC power and cooling Silencer MKII PCpower make some of the better psu's on the market also good are the antec ones(the ones made by seasonic at least) thermaltake are Ok but there bit pricey for my pallet
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Might upgrade my GPU soon. Either when the 7xx or 8xxx comes out. So I want to have enough juice for those. And I will pay extra for a modular!

The help is amazing, thank you!
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750 should be enough for pretty much any gpu due out in the next 4 years lol
the rule I follow is this PSU's are rated for X Efficiency at X load (usually 90% load)
so in theory if your 750 psu is 80% Efficient @ 90% load then it will be closer to 85% Efficient at 70 or 80% load so you always buy a little more then you need the system I use has a 520Watt CONTINUOUS output psu meaning that it can putout its MAX wattage all the time most psu's can't do that for sustained periods

your entier system would probably be just fine on even a good quality 600Watt model
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your entier system would probably be just fine on even a good quality 600Watt model
I think I'll buy a 700-750ish modular
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