XBMC client box

Killer_Rubber_Ducky · Jan 1, 2013, 05:32 PM

Hi guys.
Im trying to put together a few inexpensive xbmc client boxes. Id like to stay less than 100 if possible. They need to be wireless and handle 1080p smoothly. Any suggestions?

Guitarrassdeamor · Jan 1, 2013, 06:31 PM

Android phones with HDMI out.

TRWOV · Jan 1, 2013, 06:36 PM

http://www.raspberrypi.org/

+

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cyntech-Rasp...item416eb31c5c

=

Profit?

EDIT: scratch that. Didn't read the wireless requirement.

Guitarrassdeamor · Jan 2, 2013, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRWOV

http://www.raspberrypi.org/

+

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cyntech-Rasp...item416eb31c5c

=

Profit?

EDIT: scratch that. Didn't read the wireless requirement.

http://adafruit.com/products/814?gcl...FQ2znQodMmUA2A

Done. I thought of the Pi but wasn't sure if it would run XBMC well, but I guess it does.

TRWOV · Jan 2, 2013, 02:43 PM

The latest RC build works on the Pi. How well is the question.

Killer_Rubber_Ducky · Jan 2, 2013, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guitarrassdeamor

http://adafruit.com/products/814?gcl...FQ2znQodMmUA2A

Done. I thought of the Pi but wasn't sure if it would run XBMC well, but I guess it does.

what about the actual performance. Im building this for a guy. Im building his server running XBMC that will store his 800+ Movies and TV shows. It will then serve them up to his 5 or so TVs in HD. So, I need to make sure it is cost effective and reasonable.

Jetster · Jan 2, 2013, 03:44 PM

Personally I would rather have something a bit more substantial. Also Wireless 1080 is a challenge

Raspbmc RC5 Review! - YouTube

Guitarrassdeamor · Jan 2, 2013, 03:48 PM

I don't know, check out: http://forum.xbmc.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=166
But if someone is streaming content to 5 HDTVs regularly, I wouldn't think cost would be a huge issue...

silkstone · Jan 2, 2013, 04:07 PM

Do you have an idea of a price in mind?

TRWOV · Jan 2, 2013, 05:14 PM

1080p wireless would be fine with a n network I think. Maybe you could buy a Pi + wireless module for testimg?

newtekie1 · Jan 2, 2013, 06:13 PM

I use a Pivos Xios DS, it runs Android ICS natively with the XBMC app. However, you can flash it to native XBMC, which is what I did since XBMC for android isn't as nice as native XBMC.

Pivos ULTRA SLIM XIOS DS HD Wi-Fi Media Player w/ ...

It is just out of your price range, but I think it is the best solution for what you want.

Easy Rhino · Jan 2, 2013, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

I use a Pivos Xios DS, it runs Android ICS natively with the XBMC app. However, you can flash it to native XBMC, which is what I did since XBMC for android isn't as nice as native XBMC.

Pivos ULTRA SLIM XIOS DS HD Wi-Fi Media Player w/ ...

It is just out of your price range, but I think it is the best solution for what you want.

wow, i have never seen that before.

interesting though they excluded a 10/100/1000 connection. you won't get a solid 1080p video stream without the ability to hit 150mbit/s. or you could compress it down to piss making it pointless at 1080p.

newtekie1 · Jan 2, 2013, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

wow, i have never seen that before.

interesting though they excluded a 10/100/1000 connection. you won't get a solid 1080p video stream without the ability to hit 150mbit/s. or you could compress it down to piss making it pointless at 1080p.

I've never had a problem with 1080p X264 over 100M.

Easy Rhino · Jan 2, 2013, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

I've never had a problem with 1080p X264 over 100M.

really? i must be doing something wrong then because i always had buffering issues.

TRWOV · Jan 2, 2013, 07:45 PM

Blu-ray uses 36Mbit/s IIRC, 100M should be enough unless you're using extremely high bitrates.

Guitarrassdeamor · Jan 2, 2013, 07:49 PM

Yeah I was wondering about that...I mean unless you're streaming completely uncompressed Blu-ray, and even then, I think you'd be fine.

Easy Rhino · Jan 2, 2013, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRWOV

Blu-ray uses 36Mbit/s IIRC, 100M should be enough unless you're using extremely high bitrates.

36mbit/s is record rate not read rate. max a/v rate is 48mbit/s.

yes, that is still obviously under 100mbit/s. i must have some strange overhead on my routers or something is broken on the 100mbit port i had

Jetster · Jan 2, 2013, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

36mbit/s is record rate not read rate. max a/v rate is 48mbit/s.

yes, that is still obviously under 100mbit/s. i must have some strange overhead on my routers or something is broken on the 100mbit port i had

There are a lot of variables that come into play

Killer_Rubber_Ducky · Jan 2, 2013, 10:59 PM

well, my plan is to build an AMD A10 media server with ~8-16GB of DDR3 and running XMBCLive or XBMCbuntu on an 8GB SSD with several WD Red drives for the Storage. IIRC XMBC has a streaming Media Server uPnP DLNA thing right? I know it can read those servers. It will go through a good router running wifi-N. The idea is that each TV would be able to watch a separate movie/show from all the others. At the same time. I don't know if I need to build the guy a 4core PfSense router as well or not. It will all be wireless except that the Server will be wired to the router via Gigabit. They guy said that the price is not important. Just that the working reliable system is. I also have to train him how to use it.

Killer_Rubber_Ducky · Mar 15, 2013, 04:02 PM

So, I have simplified the method to this: MediaServr

I am going with all WD products for simplicity unless someone can provide a better setup that is cost effective. It would be great if WD could do XBMC

CJCerny · Mar 15, 2013, 04:21 PM

New Roku 3 box is worth a look before you launch on this project.

Killer_Rubber_Ducky · Apr 5, 2013, 03:06 AM

looking for a cheap but reliable xbmc box. ~100USD. with wifi. Looking to get one for my dad's BDay.

chinmi · Apr 5, 2013, 03:12 AM

The ouya looks like a viable option

Killer_Rubber_Ducky · Apr 5, 2013, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinmi

The ouya looks like a viable option

The Ouya is a game console

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