Blu Ray pixelation noise

[MxPhenom 216]

I just got one of the new Sony Blu Ray player. This one specifically http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BDP-S590-...blu+ray+player

And Im watching Hurt Locker and blu ray and there is a lot of pixelation noise. Has anyone else experienced this with blu ray?

[erocker]

Swapping the HDMI cable would be the first thing I try. If you're viewing it on a 1080p screen the picture should be crisp.

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by erocker

Swapping the HDMI cable would be the first thing I try. If you're viewing it on a 1080p screen the picture should be crisp.

yep. 1080p screen, and Im using a cheap $10 mediabridge HDMI cable. Ill try my Belkin that I use for xbox.

[LightningJR]

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

I just got one of the new Sony Blu Ray player. This one specifically http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BDP-S590-...blu+ray+player

And Im watching Hurt Locker and blu ray and there is a lot of pixelation noise. Has anyone else experienced this with blu ray?

If it's just a lot of noise then it's probably just the fact that it's an older movie that wasn't converted to blu ray well. I have seen old 70's movies remastered that look better than some movies from about 2000 - 2010..

If it's pixelization than it is probably the HDMI cable.

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by LightningJR

If it's just a lot of noise then it's probably just the fact that it's an older movie that wasn't converted to blu ray well. I have seen old 70's movies remastered that look better than some movies from about 2000 - 2010..

If it's pixelization than it is probably the HDMI cable.

Yeah, theres a lot of noise. Im going to try with my other Belkin PureAV HDMI cable and see if it reduces it at all. I will report back.

[m1dg3t]

The noise is mainly because HDMI is only 60Hz and the panel up's it to 120Hz, so I guess you could call it latency. Some titles are done better than others (as mentioned) & some panels have better electronics so you don't notice it as much. Techreport should go and fix HDMI now

I highly doubt a cable will "fix" this issue for you, if you were having "handshake" issues then Ok...

[Easy Rhino]

i saw hurt locker in the theater and it was a bit grainy. that was the look the director was going for. some studios when they transfer a film to bluray will use a procedure that removes like 99% of the noise. some people like it while others don't. you should try a different bluray and see what happens.

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by m1dg3t

The noise is mainly because HDMI is only 60Hz and the panel up's it to 120Hz, so I guess you could call it latency. Some titles are done better than others (as mentioned) & some panels have better electronics so you don't notice it as much. Techreport should go and fix HDMI now

I highly doubt a cable will "fix" this issue for you, if you were having "handshake" issues then Ok...

I have a Samsung 40" LCD 1080P panel that only does 60hz. I noticed with the blu ray it defaults to 24hz.

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

I have a Samsung 40" LCD 1080P panel that only does 60hz. I noticed with the blu ray it defaults to 24hz.

this is normal. look here

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/gene...ml#post2127492

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

this is normal. look here

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/gene...ml#post2127492

Yeah I searched that last night.

So new cable need change it much. Assuming its just the way the movie was encoding or compressed and put on the BD disc.

Try my Act of Valor blu ray copy and its quite a bit better. Must just be the way the movie it put onto the blu ray disc.

[Mussels]

if other movies are clear, then its just the movie.


1. try every HDMI port (turn the TV off between tests - just trust me on that). some TV's apply different optimisations to different ports, god knows why.

2. look for settings in the TV that might be screwing it up. turn on game mode/HTPC mode. turn off denoise, deblur, etc. write down the defaults and just fiddle with everything. (these should be independant per HDMI input, on the TV)

[m1dg3t]

You can try what Mussels sugested but I would also suggest trying with component cables. Resolution will be slightly less @ 1080i but pic will prolly be clear. I been using HDMI since it first came out, BBIIGG mistake I made jumping on the bandwagon.

DVI/DP needs to come to consumer TVs

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by m1dg3t

I been using HDMI since it first came out, BBIIGG mistake I made jumping on the bandwagon.

DVI/DP needs to come to consumer TVs

huh?

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

huh?

I was thinking the same thing since DVI is the same as HDMI and the only real main difference is HDMI carries audio.

[m1dg3t]

Wrong

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by m1dg3t

Wrong

good explanation

[Mussels]

sorry midget, but if your HDMI looked worse than analogue, then the problem is with your setup/config.


HDMI is literally DVI + audio. thats the entire standard. the other differences are purely because most HDTV's lack EDID as a cost saving measure, so devices tend to have manual config instead of automatic.

as i said earlier - you can fix that by adjusting the settings. changing to 30Hz interlaced component is a terrible way to get better image quality.

[Sinzia]

Hurt Locker has film grain in it, its not "noise" but its meant to look that way.
Some say it gives a more artsy feel to movies.

[m1dg3t]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

good explanation

You're welcome

Originally Posted by Mussels

sorry midget, but if your HDMI looked worse than analogue, then the problem is with your setup/config.


HDMI is literally DVI + audio. thats the entire standard. the other differences are purely because most HDTV's lack EDID as a cost saving measure, so devices tend to have manual config instead of automatic.

as i said earlier - you can fix that by adjusting the settings. changing to 30Hz interlaced component is a terrible way to get better image quality.

If you say so. I never said anything about the quality of my picture.

@ Sinzia: Theres is a difference between pixelation and grain, O/P said pixelation so...



HDMI is a half ass, cash grab interface. Designed mainly to keep people from copying their media using HDCP.

DVI/DVI-D (or DP) & optical is the way to go

[qubit]

Is that pixellation noise showing up as lots of white dots all over the screen? If so, changing the HDMI cable should fix it as this indicates corrupt data reaching the TV. You don't need an expensive HDMI cable either.

It's possible, but quite unlikely that your player or TV are faulty.

Does the problem go away when playing another disc?

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by qubit

Is that pixellation noise showing up as lots of white dots all over the screen? If so, changing the HDMI cable should fix it as this indicates corrupt data reaching the TV. You don't need an expensive HDMI cable either.

It's possible, but quite unlikely that your player or TV are faulty.

Does the problem go away when playing another disc?

Read earlier in the thread. I said Act of Valor does not have the pixellation. Its clear.

[qubit]

It's just the disc then.

[m1dg3t]

Originally Posted by qubit

It's just the disc then.

It was never pixelation to begin with then.

Out of curiosity mxphenom, did you try it with component cables? Just for shiggles if nothing else... Even if they are just "stock" cables.

[xorbe]

It's probably just the source material ... try another disc?

[qubit]

Originally Posted by m1dg3t

It was never pixelation to begin with then.

Out of curiosity mxphenom, did you try it with component cables? Just for shiggles if nothing else... Even if they are just "stock" cables.

Wut?