all getting lower fps then older set

Jirokarja17 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:45 AM

old set up:

AMD A8 3850
MSI A75ma-g55
discrete 6670 xtx 2g for duel graphic mode
16g ram
2 TB
window 7

New set up:

AMD a10 5800k
gigabyte f2a85x-up4
6670 xtx 2g for duel grahics
same ram
same TB
window 8

(IN DUEL GRAPHICS MODE )
on my older set up i would play borderlands 2 in 1280x720 and get 40 frames while moving shooting etc etc.
But on my new set same resolution and im only get 33 frames. And there are time were when im turning i get a spike goes down to like 22 frame for a split second . goes away for a long time then random but not because of large scale shooting I don't understand at all.

same for skyrim but im putting the setting lower on skyrim??? im playing skyrim in 1920x1080 was at 45 to 50 frame on old setup. im getting the same kind of frame on slightly lower setting but when turning or moving i get s spike as well. but its once for skyrim then goes away.

i have not tired out plantside yet but i probably dont need to lol.

All so. will me buying the AMD 7850 be even worth it. Ive seen some review being held with that card. i know the 7850 is bad ass but with the processor.

eidairaman1 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:06 AM

With Windows 8 in Infancy- that might be a issue. Remember however between FM1 and FM2 the design of the CPU changed internally- FM1 was a Stars Core where as FM2 is Pile Driver Based. Overclocking the A10 might fix your gripe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jirokarja17

old set up:

AMD A8 3850
MSI A75ma-g55
discrete 6670 xtx 2g for duel graphic mode
16g ram
2 TB
window 7

New set up:

AMD a10 5800k
gigabyte f2a85x-up4
6670 xtx 2g for duel grahics
same ram
same TB
window 8

(IN DUEL GRAPHICS MODE )
on my older set up i would play borderlands 2 in 1280x720 and get 40 frames while moving shooting etc etc.
But on my new set same resolution and im only get 33 frames. And there are time were when im turning i get a spike goes down to like 22 frame for a split second . goes away for a long time then random but not because of large scale shooting I don't understand at all.

same for skyrim but im putting the setting lower on skyrim??? im playing skyrim in 1920x1080 was at 45 to 50 frame on old setup. im getting the same kind of frame on slightly lower setting but when turning or moving i get s spike as well. but its once for skyrim then goes away.

i have not tired out plantside yet but i probably dont need to lol.

All so. will me buying the AMD 7850 be even worth it. Ive seen some review being held with that card. i know the 7850 is bad ass but with the processor.

Tatty_One · Jan 7, 2013, 07:42 AM

Can you upload a screenshot of CPU-Z and GPU-Z please.

Jirokarja17 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:20 PM

I had to attach the cpu-z info.

The second cup-z file is one for when im in activate game mode i guess. but it keeps going back and forth showing me the core speed. it just keeps switches from 1300 to 4100 and im not playing any games.

eidairaman1 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jirokarja17

I had to attach the cpu-z info.

The second cup-z file is one for when im in activate game mode i guess. but it keeps going back and forth showing me the core speed. it just keeps switches from 1300 to 4100 and im not playing any games.

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/13/01/07/bk7.png

disable any power saving functions in windows itself, they tend to mess with todays systems.

Update The Motherboard Bios.

Jirokarja17 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:36 PM

ok ill cut the power save off.... my mother is up to date, well there is a beta but its a beta that doesnt have all features...

All what say everyone about getting the 7850 no one has anwser that part of my question

3870x2 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:37 PM

Is an a8 to an a10 really an upgrade? Haven't been keeping up with these processors.

You would probably be happy with a 7850, they are great for their price.

Jirokarja17 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:39 PM

oh wait dame near all power save option are turned off alrdy.

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jirokarja17

oh wait dame near all power save option are turned off alrdy.

Would you be able to test under windows 7 to rule out windows 8 being an issue?

eidairaman1 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:41 PM

ya that require a Format

Jirokarja17 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:41 PM

Dont know what you mean Brandonwh64

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

ya that require a Format

Yes

but would find out if windows 8 is the issue restricting the FPS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jirokarja17

Dont know what you mean Brandonwh64

Could you format and reinstall windows 7 WITH the new A10?

Jirokarja17 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:44 PM

oh no these are OME version

eidairaman1 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Yes

but would find out if windows 8 is the issue restricting the FPS

Well First off, I should have asked but did you test this with the A8 under windows 8?

Hey man not trying to undermine you- just think he wouldnt want to have to do that but Ya its very plausible because of how young windows 8 is compared to Windows 7.

OEM disk versions are full versions- not upgrade versions. Meaning You can wipe a HDD using Killdisk or even the WIndows DIsk and put the fresh OS on.

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Hey man not trying to undermine you- just think he wouldnt want to have to do that but Ya its very plausible because of how young windows 8 is compared to Windows 7.

No worries man, I just expressing my pain of the whole format issue. Yea it sucks but it would get the full prospective on how well the A10 preforms on both OS's

Jirokarja17 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:47 PM

So should sick with the duel grahpics mode or try and get the 7850 with the a10

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jirokarja17

So should sick with the duel grahpics mode or try and get the 7850 with the a10

In the long run I believe the 7850 would perform better than the 6670 hybrid Xfired.

Jirokarja17 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

In the long run I believe the 7850 would perform better than the 6670 hybrid Xfired.

i dont think you can hybrid the 6670 and the 7850 can you??

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jirokarja17

i dont think you can hybrid the 6670 and the 7850 can you??

No it has to be a similar card base. 7850/70 can xfire together.

Crap Daddy · Jan 7, 2013, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jirokarja17

i dont think you can hybrid the 6670 and the 7850 can you??

No. Anyway Hybrid crossfire is a gamble, some games work some perform worse. Get yourself a decent card and be done. 7850 is good enough.

Jirokarja17 · Jan 7, 2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

No. Anyway Hybrid crossfire is a gamble, some games work some perform worse. Get yourself a decent card and be done. 7850 is good enough.

ok and ill just over clock the a10 with the 7850. casue i know ppl would complain about combining the a10 with the 7850

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:00 PM

A10 really isnt that bad of a CPU when used with a discrete GPU. Dave has had quite the luck with OCing these chips and some have seen close to 5Ghz in benching. Get this thing to around 4.2Ghz and leave it and it should be perfect with a newer card such as a 7850.

Jirokarja17 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

A10 really isnt that bad of a CPU when used with a discrete GPU. Dave has had quite the luck with OCing these chips and some have seen close to 5Ghz in benching. Get this thing to around 4.2Ghz and leave it and it should be perfect with a newer card such as a 7850.

oh cool i got it to around 4.5 but that was with AMD vison conrtol cnter. i know it would be better to do OCing from the BIOS

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jirokarja17

oh cool i got it to around 4.5 but that was with AMD vison conrtol cnter. i know it would be better to do OCing from the BIOS

Yep just keep an eye on the temps and voltages and you should be fine as long as it passes stability tests. Good luck with the new rig!

Jirokarja17 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:06 PM

cool ill get the xtx 7850 start saving up now... thanks everyone for your advise, ill just play my game on med to low setting until then casue i still get 40 to 60 frame doing that. so thanks again

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Jirokarja17 Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 32 (0.19/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	all getting lower fps then older set old set up: AMD A8 3850 MSI A75ma-g55 discrete 6670 xtx 2g for duel graphic mode 16g ram 2 TB window 7 New set up: AMD a10 5800k gigabyte f2a85x-up4 6670 xtx 2g for duel grahics same ram same TB window 8 (IN DUEL GRAPHICS MODE ) on my older set up i would play borderlands 2 in 1280x720 and get 40 frames while moving shooting etc etc. But on my new set same resolution and im only get 33 frames. And there are time were when im turning i get a spike goes down to like 22 frame for a split second . goes away for a long time then random but not because of large scale shooting I don't understand at all. same for skyrim but im putting the setting lower on skyrim??? im playing skyrim in 1920x1080 was at 45 to 50 frame on old setup. im getting the same kind of frame on slightly lower setting but when turning or moving i get s spike as well. but its once for skyrim then goes away. i have not tired out plantside yet but i probably dont need to lol. All so. will me buying the AMD 7850 be even worth it. Ive seen some review being held with that card. i know the 7850 is bad ass but with the processor. Last edited by Jirokarja17; Jan 7, 2013 at 06:52 AM.

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Jirokarja17 Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 32 (0.19/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I had to attach the cpu-z info. The second cup-z file is one for when im in activate game mode i guess. but it keeps going back and forth showing me the core speed. it just keeps switches from 1300 to 4100 and im not playing any games. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Jirokarja17; Jan 7, 2013 at 06:26 PM.

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Jirokarja17 Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 32 (0.19/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok ill cut the power save off.... my mother is up to date, well there is a beta but its a beta that doesnt have all features... All what say everyone about getting the 7850 no one has anwser that part of my question

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Jirokarja17 Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 32 (0.19/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	cool ill get the xtx 7850 start saving up now... thanks everyone for your advise, ill just play my game on med to low setting until then casue i still get 40 to 60 frame doing that. so thanks again

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