Looking to replace my graphics card

BurekMaker · Jan 14, 2013, 09:06 PM

My old card is slowly dying, Gigabyte 560ti OC edition and i`m looking for a good replacement. I`m willing to spend from around 300-400€. There is so much to choose out there, that i`m having a hard time doing it myself, so i am asking for help. Most of the time i˙m generally gaming, a little 3d modeling on the side sometimes. I have a phenom x4 955 processor, don`t wonna bottleneck things, so cards like GTX 680 or Radeon 7970 are probably out of the question right, would loose too much performance ? And i`m not in any camps, so could go with either Ati or Nvidia.

EarthDog · Jan 14, 2013, 09:08 PM

Nothing gets loose on the GPU's (ok the heatsink maybe?

), but you could lose performance.

All grammar jokes aside, What resolution do you game at? Assuming 1920x1080 or greater, just grab a 7950 3GB and call it a day.

BurekMaker · Jan 14, 2013, 09:32 PM

Yeah i am gaming at 1920x1080, correct. You say i should go with ATI, why not Nvidia ?
So something like this should be good: http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N660T...=Specification Nvidia, or http://www.msi.com/product/vga/R7950...r-3GD5-OC.html ATI

EarthDog · Jan 14, 2013, 09:45 PM

AMD has the best performance for your dollar, for the most part, at this time. Look up benchmark numbers and watch the 660 get beat, again for the most part, by a 7950.

Frag Maniac · Jan 14, 2013, 09:51 PM

The 7970 is still the best deal of those cards. Got my Sapphire OC for only $330 USD. I would imagine in Europe there's similar deals going from time to time.

Melvis · Jan 19, 2013, 06:43 AM

660 Ti or 7870 would be my choices

Vertrucio · Jan 19, 2013, 08:37 AM

I was just checking prices and saw the 660 Ti was about $20 cheaper, enough to consider it?

There's also a PNY card for $250 with a $30 rebate at Fry's, but I'm not sure why it's so low in price.

BarbaricSoul · Jan 19, 2013, 11:09 AM

If you don't run any programs for number crunching like Bionic, with it being $20 less, I'd choose the GTX 660ti over the HD7950. If you do plan on running number crunching software, even for $20 more, the 7950 is a much better card.

Don't worry too much about bottlenecking your new video card as it is a part you can potentially use in your next build. Buy the best video card you can afford.

DarkOCean · Jan 19, 2013, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vertrucio

I was just checking prices and saw the 660 Ti was about $20 cheaper, enough to consider it?

There's also a PNY card for $250 with a $30 rebate at Fry's, but I'm not sure why it's so low in price.

that card was $199 around cristmas time but now i would go for a 7950.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarbaricSoul

If you don't run any programs for number crunching like Bionic, with it being $20 less, I'd choose the GTX 660ti over the HD7950. If you do plan on running number crunching software, even for $20 more, the 7950 is a much better card.

Don't worry too much about bottlenecking your new video card as it is a part you can potentially use in your next build. Buy the best video card you can afford.

Even the 1gb of vram more on the 7950 its worth the extra $20.

TommyT · Jan 19, 2013, 12:27 PM

I thinl its better to go with the 660 ti

and also dont forgot the drivers isuse with the radeon card and the moment.

BarbaricSoul · Jan 19, 2013, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkOCean

Even the 1gb of vram more on the 7950 its worth the extra $20.

According to Wizz's review, the GTX 660 ti matches the 7950 at the OP's resolution, extra RAM or not. So why not go with the less expensive?

TommyT · Jan 19, 2013, 12:37 PM

after a look and the prices at newegg. my opinion stay with the 660 ti its less expensive by a metter of 20$ and has a better drivers and psyx so...

just 660 ti

Tatty_One · Jan 19, 2013, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyT

I thinl its better to go with the 660 ti

and also dont forgot the drivers isuse with the radeon card and the moment.

Driver issues? Have not had any...... none..... not a smidgeon....... not for a few releases...... maybe I am lucky? Now I had a 560Ti up until 2 months ago and it was a great card but the last couple of driver releases were causing in game crashes.... happens to the best of them on occasions.

Jack1n · Jan 19, 2013, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarbaricSoul

According to Wizz's review, the GTX 660 ti matches the 7950 at the OP's resolution, extra RAM or not. So why not go with the less expensive?

Because most 7950 can be OCed to match a 7970GHZ.

DarkOCean · Jan 20, 2013, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarbaricSoul

According to Wizz's review, the GTX 660 ti matches the 7950 at the OP's resolution, extra RAM or not. So why not go with the less expensive?

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Palit/GeFo...rfrel_1680.gif http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Palit/GeFo...rfrel_1920.gif

...a little bit of future proof.
and if you are concerned about money there is the 7870 myst edition (1536Sp) wich is cheaper than 660ti while having the same amount of ram 2gb and matching performance.
PowerColor PCS+ AX7870 2GBD5-2DHPPV3E Radeon HD 78... but i would still get the 7950.
btw barbaricSoul thats radeon with the old drivers not even the 12.11.

remember always use the latest review for perf. comparison guys.

pdimar1 · Jan 20, 2013, 02:21 AM

grab one of these, i have one and its amazing

HIS IceQ Turbo H785QT2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-b...

HIS IceQ Turbo Radeon HD 7850 2GB

BarbaricSoul · Jan 20, 2013, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkOCean

...a little bit of future proof.

remember always use the latest review for perf. comparison guys.

Future proofing, how are you future proofing when the 2 cards in question have the same performance. 3% at a higher resolution than the OP runs is not a noticable difference.

Jan 15th review

Unless the OP is going to be crunching numbers, I see no reason to spend the extra $20. Granted, that is not a hugh difference is price, but $20 is $20.

...PACMAN... · Jan 20, 2013, 12:00 PM

Out of interest what power supply do you have BurekMaker?

DarkOCean · Jan 20, 2013, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarbaricSoul

Unless the OP is going to be crunching numbers, I see no reason to spend the extra $20. Granted, that is not a hugh difference is price, but $20 is $20.

that's why i recommend in geting the 7870 1536 sp wich is $30 cheaper than a 660ti and has virtualy the same performance. PowerColor PCS+ AX7870 2GBD5-2DHPPV3E Radeon HD 78... $50 saved...

edit: funny thing, i just saw on neweg that the cheapest 660ti 2gb and 7950 3gb are both $289 so whats with the $20 savings you mentioned ?

DarkOCean · Jan 20, 2013, 01:36 PM

bad post

BarbaricSoul · Jan 20, 2013, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkOCean

that's why i recommend in geting the 7870 1536 sp wich is $30 cheaper than a 660ti and has virtualy the same performance. PowerColor PCS+ AX7870 2GBD5-2DHPPV3E Radeon HD 78... $50 saved...

edit: funny thing, i just saw on neweg that the cheapest 660ti 2gb and 7950 3gb are both $289 so whats with the $20 savings you mentioned ?

Maybe the OP should look at the 7870 your mentioning then.

The $20 is from the prices the OP says he/she can get the cards for. Considering he/she said-

Quote:

I`m willing to spend from around 300-400€.

I doubt they are in the States. There goes buying from newegg.com

Jan 14, 2013, 09:06 PM	#1
BurekMaker Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2 (0.02/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looking to replace my graphics card My old card is slowly dying, Gigabyte 560ti OC edition and i`m looking for a good replacement. I`m willing to spend from around 300-400€. There is so much to choose out there, that i`m having a hard time doing it myself, so i am asking for help. Most of the time i˙m generally gaming, a little 3d modeling on the side sometimes. I have a phenom x4 955 processor, don`t wonna bottleneck things, so cards like GTX 680 or Radeon 7970 are probably out of the question right, would loose too much performance ? And i`m not in any camps, so could go with either Ati or Nvidia.

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Jan 14, 2013, 09:08 PM	#2
EarthDog Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,052 (1.66/day) Thanks: 246 Thanked 349 Times in 303 Posts System Specs	Nothing gets loose on the GPU's (ok the heatsink maybe? ), but you could lose performance. All grammar jokes aside, What resolution do you game at? Assuming 1920x1080 or greater, just grab a 7950 3GB and call it a day.

Jan 14, 2013, 09:32 PM	#3
BurekMaker Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2 (0.02/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah i am gaming at 1920x1080, correct. You say i should go with ATI, why not Nvidia ? So something like this should be good: http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N660T...=Specification Nvidia, or http://www.msi.com/product/vga/R7950...r-3GD5-OC.html ATI

Jan 14, 2013, 09:45 PM	#4
EarthDog Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,052 (1.66/day) Thanks: 246 Thanked 349 Times in 303 Posts System Specs	AMD has the best performance for your dollar, for the most part, at this time. Look up benchmark numbers and watch the 660 get beat, again for the most part, by a 7950.

Jan 14, 2013, 09:51 PM	#5
Frag Maniac Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,432 (1.55/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 242 Times in 209 Posts System Specs	The 7970 is still the best deal of those cards. Got my Sapphire OC for only $330 USD. I would imagine in Europe there's similar deals going from time to time.

Jan 19, 2013, 06:43 AM	#6
Melvis Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,929 (1.55/day) Thanks: 602 Thanked 459 Times in 381 Posts System Specs	660 Ti or 7870 would be my choices

Jan 19, 2013, 08:37 AM	#7
Vertrucio Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 27 (0.03/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts System Specs	I was just checking prices and saw the 660 Ti was about $20 cheaper, enough to consider it? There's also a PNY card for $250 with a $30 rebate at Fry's, but I'm not sure why it's so low in price.

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Jan 19, 2013, 11:09 AM	#8
BarbaricSoul Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeastern Virginia Posts: 3,735 (1.95/day) Thanks: 369 Thanked 1,082 Times in 797 Posts System Specs	If you don't run any programs for number crunching like Bionic, with it being $20 less, I'd choose the GTX 660ti over the HD7950. If you do plan on running number crunching software, even for $20 more, the 7950 is a much better card. Don't worry too much about bottlenecking your new video card as it is a part you can potentially use in your next build. Buy the best video card you can afford. __________________ “Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.” “Amd....definitely a blond female.....not much on the cpu side, but always strutting about showing off her gpus......wow that was bad. I apologize.” -ensabrenoir

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Jan 19, 2013, 12:27 PM	#10
TommyT Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Beer-Sheva@Israel Posts: 38 (0.31/day) Thanks: 67 Thanked 26 Times in 8 Posts System Specs	I thinl its better to go with the 660 ti and also dont forgot the drivers isuse with the radeon card and the moment.

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Jan 19, 2013, 12:37 PM	#12
TommyT Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Beer-Sheva@Israel Posts: 38 (0.31/day) Thanks: 67 Thanked 26 Times in 8 Posts System Specs	after a look and the prices at newegg. my opinion stay with the 660 ti its less expensive by a metter of 20$ and has a better drivers and psyx so... just 660 ti

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