TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[brandonwh64]

Ok this is weird. I pull the water unit out and decide to give one final test on another PSU and it worked! I tested the molex that it was connected to to find out that the molex is jacked and was not powering on the pump... WTF! Wished this asetek was like the H50's power cable and connected to the motherboard even thought they are THE SAME EXACT COOLER!!!

[[Ion]]

Stinger, are you still interested in that PSU/HDD we were talking about?

I'm getting the fourth HP set up again right now--hope to have it crunching tonight

[stinger608]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Ok this is weird. I pull the water unit out and decide to give one final test on another PSU and it worked! I tested the molex that it was connected to to find out that the molex is jacked and was not powering on the pump... WTF! Wished this asetek was like the H50's power cable and connected to the motherboard even thought they are THE SAME EXACT COOLER!!!

Check the wires going into the molex connector. I have had some that will back out of the plug socket. If that is not the case I would be pretty concerned with the power supply as a whole.

Originally Posted by [Ion]

Stinger, are you still interested in that PSU/HDD we were talking about?

Probably not for awhile Ion. Just due to money situations at the moment. Sorry about not getting back to ya sooner man.

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by stinger608

Check the wires going into the molex connector. I have had some that will back out of the plug socket. If that is not the case I would be pretty concerned with the power supply as a whole.

It was the molex its self, It was not connecting on the 12V line the negitive was fine though. One thing I seen odd is that its idleing at 21deg cel and thats BELOW my ambient temp. Isnt that impossible?

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by stinger608

Probably not for awhile Ion. Just due to money situations at the moment. Sorry about not getting back to ya sooner man.

If you have the rest of the stuff needed for a new build (or even if you don't) I can send them out this week and you can pay whenever is convenient

I'm all about giving everyone else the opportunity to contribute to WCG

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

It was the molex its self, It was not connecting on the 12V line the negitive was fine though. One thing I seen odd is that its idleing at 21deg cel and thats BELOW my ambient temp. Isnt that impossible?

it's possible with the fans blowing across the rad.

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by ThE_MaD_ShOt

it's possible with the fans blowing across the rad.

Uhhh

I think that the only way to get sub-ambient temperatures is with a Peltier unit (TEC), evaporation cooling, a chilled-liquid system (AC-style compressor), LN2/etc.

I can't think of any way physically possible what you have proposed could work.

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by ThE_MaD_ShOt

it's possible with the fans blowing across the rad.

Yea I have two LED xiggys in push pull so maybe thats it. I am going to unlock the cpu and test the cpu temp.

[johnspack]

Okay, think I posted my question in the wrong place the first time... anyone here running boinc on home server 2011? Just wondering if it's an issue.

[johnspack]

My mother is going home in just over a week. Her cancer is almost gone for now. I haven't communicated with her much in the last few years, but now I phone her every couple of days. At 73, she's going back home after having lymph node cancer. That's a huge increase in treatment capability. We need to crunch and fold our brains out.... it works, and it can only get better!

[stinger608]

Originally Posted by johnspack

anyone here running boinc on home server 2011

I believe T_Ski tried and it didn't work very well. He had tons of issues and errors.

[Norton]

Going to be a down day today- HCC validators are shut down so all of our gpu wu's are going to continue to pile up in "pending"

I'm over 180 pgs of them atm which is more than 100 pgs extra since yesterday

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/fo...e,yes#lastpost

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by Norton

Going to be a down day today- HCC validators are shut down so all of our gpu wu's are going to continue to pile up in "pending"

I'm over 180 pgs of them atm which is more than 100 pgs extra since yesterday

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/fo...e,yes#lastpost

That would explain why my RAC has actually dropped today despite everything running like normal.

Correct me if you know more, but it doesn't look like they have an ETA yet?

EDIT: At 330 pages of Pending ATM

[Norton]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

That would explain why my RAC has actually dropped today despite everything running like normal.

Correct me if you know more, but it doesn't look like they have an ETA yet?

No ETA has been announced AFAIK... just the statement that they are in the process of catching up???


*** UPDATE- A few have started to validate now- about a dozen or so cleared just before the close for the day ***

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Explains why my numbers seem to be in the crapper.

[SirKeldon]

Hello everybody. This is my first post in this thread after the welcome Norton and Chevalr1c gave it to me in the "official welcome" one.

As i mentioned there i was having problems with my HD6850 in MacOS X Lion, in fact i still have them and i did a little bit of research and i couldn't solved it yet. Thing is BOINC is detecting my GPU correctly but not getting any WU's to crunch (detailed info here and here) I read further in WCG/BOINC forums and i tried different solutions (different settings on cc_config.xml and more) but nothing worked, also as they say in other posts maybe is the driver version that is not compatible with the kind of work that needs to be crunched. Also the fact that i have no problems under Windows 7, currently crunching with CPU + GPU, makes me think that could be certainly that. Problem is there are no official update drivers from AMD/ATI for MacOS as they're included directly into the OS, so an official Apple update is needed.

I found other users with real Macs were having this kind of issues too, but mainly because the project they selected was not having any GPU work, but WCG does. So idk 100% if the problem is due to the drivers included in Lion 10.7.5 (Open CL 1.1, ver 1.0 reported) or due to the fact i'm not running it on a real Mac.

Anyone with my same kind of issue? Anyone running Mountain Lion (10.8.x) is also experiencing these problems? Real mac or not?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

Uhhh

I think that the only way to get sub-ambient temperatures is with a Peltier unit (TEC), evaporation cooling, a chilled-liquid system (AC-style compressor), LN2/etc.

I can't think of any way physically possible what you have proposed could work.

It's very possible. Blow a fan on you and see if you feel cooler. He is not talking way below ambient, just a few degrees below. 21c is about 70f and probably very close to the ambient in his house. He has dual fans in push / pull on the rad and the rig is at idle. He is moving some air through the rad thats for sure.

[Norton]

Originally Posted by SirKeldon

Hello everybody. This is my first post in this thread after the welcome Norton and Chevalr1c gave it to me in the "official welcome" one.

As i mentioned there i was having problems with my HD6850 in MacOS X Lion, in fact i still have them and i did a little bit of research and i couldn't solved it yet. Thing is BOINC is detecting my GPU correctly but not getting any WU's to crunch (detailed info here and here) I read further in WCG/BOINC forums and i tried different solutions but nothing worked, also as they say in other posts maybe is the driver version that is not compatible with the kind of work that needs to be crunched. Also the fact that i have no problems under Windows 7, currently crunching with CPU + GPU, makes me think that could be certainly that. Problem is there are no official update drivers from AMD/ATI for MacOS as they're included directly into the OS, so an official Apple update is needed.

I found other users with real Macs were having this kind of issues too, but mainly because the project they selected was not having any GPU work, but WCG does. So idk 100% if the problem is due to the drivers included in Lion 10.7.5 (Open CL 1.1, ver 1.0 reported) or due to the fact i'm not running it on a real Mac.

Anyone with my same kind of issue? Anyone running Mountain Lion (10.8.x) is also experiencing these problems? Real mac or not?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance

Is there any way to update OpenCL on a Mac.? Sorry Man I don't know much (i.e. nothing) about running anything on a Mac

Originally Posted by ThE_MaD_ShOt

It's very possible. Blow a fan on you and see if you feel cooler. He is not talking way below ambient, just a few degrees below. He has dual fans in push / pull on the rad and the rig is at idle. He is moving some air through the rad thats for sure.

It's probably just the notoriously inaccurate low temp readings on a PII.... they usually don't even get close to accurate until the chip gets above 40C

[SirKeldon]

Originally Posted by Norton

Is there any way to update OpenCL on a Mac.? Sorry Man I don't know much (i.e. nothing) about running anything on a Mac

No worries about you and the Mac, i really appreciate your concern

As far as i can know, i think i can not update by myself, OpenCL is "embedded" into the driver and until they don't provide a new one with another 10.7.x (and it's not sure it will be included) i'm stuck. In 10.7.5 only OpenCL 1.1 is supported but in Mountain Lion OpenCL 1.2 seems to be available, that's why i wrote those last questions.

One thing i could try is to use an ATI driver from Mountain Lion but i had bad experiences, specially when the file is from an updated and not outdated OS (had to reinstall completely once) ... anyway i'll do more research if that is possible w/o risking the installation or kernel panics and see if it gets solved. If that happens i'll keep you guys in touch.

Thanks again!

[[Ion]]

Unfortunately, it sounds like unless you're using to use Windows (and I do understand that this is not what you want), you're stuck to CPU-only crunching

[Chevalr1c]

If you manage to install the propietary AMD drivers on a linux based OS, it should in fact work. I managed to do that in Sabayon so I know it is possible. I recommend Ubuntu know, because that iis the only out-of-the-box distro that is free from trouble with the official AMD drivers. Derivatives like Lubuntu should work too.
Or you could use Windows as [Ion] suggests.

[SirKeldon]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

Unfortunately, it sounds like unless you're using to use Windows (and I do understand that this is not what you want), you're stuck to CPU-only crunching

Well, maybe i'll reboot at night to let it crunch on CPU+GPU at Windows, but as you perfectly understood, that's not my daily OS anymore and i don't want to get stick with it (specially cause i can perfectly game under MacOS too now )

Let's see if an updated driver or if i switch to Mountain Lion the problem gets solved but yes, mainly my crunching will be from my CPU, just sad i can not crunch 24/7 with all my power for the researches. Anyway, im doing my one's bit which is the most important i think.

Originally Posted by Chevalr1c

If you manage to install the propietary AMD drivers on a linux based OS, it should in fact work. I managed to do that in Sabayon so I know it is possible. I recommend Ubuntu know, because that iis the only out-of-the-box distro that is free from trouble with the official AMD drivers. Derivatives like Lubuntu should work too.
Or you could use Windows as [Ion] suggests.

Yeah, i know that with Ubuntu or some other Linux flavour it would be more easy to touch/tune the possible issues of the driver (i did it on the past for other things) even touching source code, but as [Ion] says, i'm clearly a MacOS user from 3 years from now and i'll try for some kind of solution for that OS. Running windows i'll do it, but just overnight, as i'm currently doing

Thanks again to both of you!

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by SirKeldon

Well, maybe i'll reboot at night to let it crunch on CPU+GPU at Windows, but as you perfectly understood, that's not my daily OS anymore and i don't want to get stick with it (specially cause i can perfectly game under MacOS too now )

Let's see if an updated driver or if i switch to Mountain Lion the problem gets solved but yes, mainly my crunching will be from my CPU, just sad i can not crunch 24/7 with all my power for the researches. Anyway, im doing my one's bit which is the most important i think.

Absolutely. Whatever you can is great--and running Windows overnight for WCG would give great results I'm sure

[brandonwh64]

Ok guys, I am not having a big issue with the newest WCG program update when crunching on the 6950's. It will run for about 2 hours then BSOD with an ATI/AMD .sys file cause. Why is it causing me to BSOD?

[Chevalr1c]

How many WUs per GPU and what drivers do you use?