BClk-based Overclocking Returns with Haswell?

[Random Murderer]

Originally Posted by iO

Only if they create a super mega overclocking SKU for LN2 OCing with a huge price premium...

You mean as in any "Extreme Edition" processor?
Anytime you see an Intel chip with "X" in the name(x6800, qx9650, 980x, 3960x, etc.), you know it's hugely overpriced and is meant for that guy who doesn't want to buy a bunch of regular chips and bin them himself, and will most likely be run sub-ambient at least once.

[Tatty_One]

Originally Posted by johnspack

Good, I won't be bothering with Haswell for probably years. I just want sb-e. And thank god it doesn't have an iGPU. Now I know I want one for sure. I just have to wait about a year more before I can afford it. Gotta love being on a fixed income where I spend half of it just on rent, 1/4 of what's left on cable. Gives me about $300can a month for food, clothes, medicine, and computer parts. I spend typically 100- 200 on computer parts, so basically I starve most months. How's your dedication to computers?

Never starve for a PC, I thought technology was supposed to bring a greater quality of life!

[badtaylorx]

Originally Posted by Random Murderer

You mean as in any "Extreme Edition" processor?
Anytime you see an Intel chip with "X" in the name(x6800, qx9650, 980x, 3960x, etc.), you know it's hugely overpriced and is meant for that guy who doesn't want to buy a bunch of regular chips and bin them himself, and will most likely be run sub-ambient at least once.

i think that was tongue-and-cheek

[Shihabyooo]

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

I thought technology was supposed to bring a greater quality of life!

[SeventhReign]

Originally Posted by johnspack

Good, I won't be bothering with Haswell for probably years. I just want sb-e. And thank god it doesn't have an iGPU. Now I know I want one for sure. I just have to wait about a year more before I can afford it. Gotta love being on a fixed income where I spend half of it just on rent, 1/4 of what's left on cable. Gives me about $300can a month for food, clothes, medicine, and computer parts. I spend typically 100- 200 on computer parts, so basically I starve most months. How's your dedication to computers?

The only place you'll find a SB-E in a year is used on eBay. I would avoid that at all costs.

[Frenzic]

I think an iGPU is handy if your dedicated GPU packs up and you have no spare.

[Random Murderer]

Originally Posted by badtaylorx

i think that was tongue-and-cheek

Right over my head, lol

[jonjonjon]

just because you buy a $300 video card doesn't mean that's what everyone else does. the intel HD 4000 graphics are good enough for 99% of people who aren't playing the newest AAA games. even if you are using a video card why do you care if the cpu has a igpu anyway? if they launched a version of the cpu without the igpu it would be the same exact thing with a disabled igpu.

i did get a good laugh at the person who is going to spend more to get a socket 2011 cpu because it doesn't have a igpu. the real reason to get 2011 is for the 6 core cpu's.

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by jonjonjon

the real reason to get 2011 is for the 6 core cpu's.

Or an overclockable quad-core with quad-channel memory, VT-d support, at 10Mb of L3 vs 8Mb. I've been very happy with my 3820, it also didn't cost all that much either.

[Random Murderer]

Originally Posted by Aquinus

Or an overclockable quad-core with quad-channel memory, VT-d support, at 10Mb of L3 vs 8Mb. I've been very happy with my 3820, it also didn't cost all that much either.

Agreed. The 3820 can be had for less than the 3770K and the same price as the non-K.
The most expensive part of a 2011 system is the mobo, but the benefits of 2011 are like Aquinus said, flexible overclocking(not restricted to multiplier only), quad-channel memory, VT-d, more L3 cache, and one he didn't mention, SB-E has TWICE the native pci-e lanes of SB and IVB.
That being said, LGA2011 is an enthusiast platform and comes with the price and features to match.

[Ferrum Master]

Originally Posted by Random Murderer

Agreed. The 3820 can be had for less than the 3770K and the same price as the non-K.
The most expensive part of a 2011 system is the mobo, but the benefits of 2011 are like Aquinus said, flexible overclocking(not restricted to multiplier only), quad-channel memory, VT-d, more L3 cache, and one he didn't mention, SB-E has TWICE the native pci-e lanes of SB and IVB.
That being said, LGA2011 is an enthusiast platform and comes with the price and features to match.

What I have less on my even older X58? 1-2 fps?

[Random Murderer]

Originally Posted by Ferrum Master

What I have less on my even older X58? 1-2 fps?

Enthusiast platforms are just that. I still love my old x48 setup, even though it's found a new home on a friend's desk.
Hell, 1366 is still a very formidable platform. Here's to hoping 2011 holds up as well as 1366 has