HELP - Computer start up - screen black??

jsabo · Jan 16, 2013, 03:21 PM

I have seen plenty of stuff on the internet about this but want to get opinions on here. I turn my computer on with the monitor on but the screen remains black. the power indicator on my monitor is on but flashing like it is waiting for a signal. when i turn on my computer, the fans on the inside rev up as normal but then quickly die down to what seems like below-normal operating levels. a few weeks ago, my computer would occasionally freeze up with a distorted version of whatever was on the screen.

is it a failing psu? failing gfx card? ram? thanks.

DRDNA · Jan 16, 2013, 04:00 PM

Post your system specs to help us help you.
Also can you get on the system at all to see the system logs?

lyndonguitar · Jan 16, 2013, 04:05 PM

any beeps?

jsabo · Jan 16, 2013, 04:43 PM

no beeps or anything like that. i am unable to do anything.

CPU: amd phenom II x4 965 BE
RAM: Corsair dominator 4 gig
MOBO: biostar 890fxe
GPU: xfx radeon 5850
PSU: thermaltake 850w black widow (i heard some bad things about this after my purchase)

drdeathx · Jan 16, 2013, 04:50 PM

You have to isolate the issue. If you have a multimeter, you can check the PSU eaily.

Make sure cpu is set properly. If the motherboard does not have a micro speaker, pick one up and check the beep codes.

DRDNA · Jan 16, 2013, 04:50 PM

My guess is the ram on the GPU or at least the GPU is the culprit here. Do you have an extra video card to test?

DiogoCDS19 · Jan 16, 2013, 04:51 PM

How many ram sticks ? Take them out and put them back. If more than 1 try 1 at time.

jsabo · Jan 16, 2013, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRDNA

My guess is the ram on the GPU or at least the GPU is the culprit here. Do you have an extra video card to test?

i do not. i was considering upgrading but would rather not think about it until the issue is isolated. pretty much a noob here, a lot of suggestions you may come up with might be beyond me...

jsabo · Jan 16, 2013, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiogoCDS19

How many ram sticks ? Take them out and put them back. If more than 1 try 1 at time.

i have two sticks. ill try that. anyone concur?

TheMailMan78 · Jan 16, 2013, 04:55 PM

Wait a second. Do you have a IGP?

DRDNA · Jan 16, 2013, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Wait a second. Do you have a IGP?

I looked at his mobo specs and he does not.

Well after testing your ram and find it to be okay or not I would pull the graphic card and take it to a local shop to test.

TC-man · Jan 16, 2013, 05:53 PM

I think it's the PSU. Can you borrow a PSU from a friend? You can verify whether the PSU is the culprit of the issues you are experiencing now by testing your PC with an other PSU. I believe the Thermaltake Black Widow makes use of a pretty poor HEC OEM, which seems to be pretty bad, i.e. noises/ripples that are going haywire and that's bad for your PC hardware, and actually can damage PC hardware. Just hoping that the damage isn't already done because of such PSU.

drdeathx · Jan 16, 2013, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TC-man

I think it's the PSU. Can you borrow a PSU from a friend? You can verify whether the PSU is the culprit of the issues you are experiencing now by testing your PC with an other PSU. I believe the Thermaltake Black Widow makes use of a pretty poor HEC OEM, which seems to be pretty bad, i.e. noises/ripples that are going haywire and that's bad for your PC hardware, and actually can damage PC hardware. Just hoping that the damage isn't already done because of such PSU.

A cheap multimeter will determine the problem. It is not like everyone has a spare PSU laying around plus the fact he won't have to rip everything apart.

Jan 16, 2013, 03:21 PM	#1
jsabo Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 18 (0.14/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	HELP - Computer start up - screen black?? I have seen plenty of stuff on the internet about this but want to get opinions on here. I turn my computer on with the monitor on but the screen remains black. the power indicator on my monitor is on but flashing like it is waiting for a signal. when i turn on my computer, the fans on the inside rev up as normal but then quickly die down to what seems like below-normal operating levels. a few weeks ago, my computer would occasionally freeze up with a distorted version of whatever was on the screen. is it a failing psu? failing gfx card? ram? thanks.

Processor:	AMD Phenom II X4 965BE
Motherboard:	Biostar 890FXE
Memory:	Corsair Vengeance 8 gig
Video Card:	EVGA GTX 670
Case:	Thermaltake A90
PSU:	Thermaltake BW 850w

Jan 16, 2013, 04:00 PM	#2
DRDNA Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 4,122 (1.55/day) Thanks: 612 Thanked 494 Times in 424 Posts System Specs	Post your system specs to help us help you. Also can you get on the system at all to see the system logs? __________________ Asus P6T Deluxe Intel X58/ i7-920CO@4.2GHZ 24/7 <> CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600.<> ThermalTake ToughPower 1200 WATT PSU 2X ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB DDR5 <> Asetek Liquid CPU Cooling System 320GBx4 Perpendicular RAID-0/BLU-RAY/HD-DVD Reader / DVD±R/±RW Writer LG 50" 50PK550 1080p 600Hz Plasma/WestingHouse 37 inch @1920X1080/Windows 7 Pro/64

System Name:	http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73751
Processor:	i7-920 CO@4.2GHZ
Motherboard:	Asus P6T Deluxe Intel X58
Cooling:	Asetek Liquid CPU Cooling System
Memory:	CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600
Video Card:	2X ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB DDR5 PCI-Express
Hard Disk:	(RAID-0) with 4 Identical Hard Drives (1.28TB (320GBx4)
Optical Drive:	LG BLU-RAY/HD-DVD Reader / DVD±R/±RW Writer
CRT/LCD Model:	LG 50" 50PK550 1080p 600Hz Plasma/37 Inch WestingHouse @1920x1080
Case:	Thermaltake M9 (I hate it its like trying to live in a 1 inch box)
PSU:	ThermalTake ToughPower 1200 Watt
Software:	Windows 7 professional 64

Jan 16, 2013, 04:05 PM	#3
lyndonguitar I play games Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,254 (1.09/day) Thanks: 264 Thanked 262 Times in 182 Posts System Specs	any beeps? __________________ Steam - lyndonguitar Origin - lyndonguitar Battlefield 3 Profile Battle.net - lyndonguitar#1663 Diablo III Profile Guild Wars 2 - lyndonguitar.6947

System Name:	Xtreme-III \| Legendary \| Supernova
Processor:	Intel Core i7-2600K @ 4.5 GHz \| AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.2ghz \| Intel Core i3-2100 @ 3.1GHz
Motherboard:	Asus P8P67-M \| Asus M4N68T-M \| ECS H61H2-M2
Cooling:	Corsair H50 \| Stock \| Stock
Memory:	Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8gb (dual) ddr3 1600 \| 6gb ddr3 1333 \| 4gb DDR3-1333
Video Card:	AMD Radeon HD 6870 Toxic Edition \| ATI Radeon HD 5750 1 GB \| Nvidia Geforce GT 430 1 GB
Hard Disk:	500 Gb SATA, 1 TB SATA, 1.5 TB SATA, 2 TB SATA \| 500 Gb SATA \| 500 Gb SATA
Optical Drive:	LG DVD Drive \| LG DVD Drive \| LG DVD Drive
CRT/LCD Model:	32" HDTV + 2 X 19" Monitor \| 19" Monitor \| 19" Monitor
Case:	CM Storm Sniper Mesh Edition \| Powerlogic 2000 \| Intex Supernova
Sound Card:	Onboard \| Onboard \| Onboard
PSU:	ST50F-ES 500W Silverstone Strider Essential \| Epsilon 80Plus 600W \| Generic 500W
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate \| Windows 7 Ultimate \| Windows 7 Ultimate

Jan 16, 2013, 04:43 PM	#4
jsabo Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 18 (0.14/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	no beeps or anything like that. i am unable to do anything. CPU: amd phenom II x4 965 BE RAM: Corsair dominator 4 gig MOBO: biostar 890fxe GPU: xfx radeon 5850 PSU: thermaltake 850w black widow (i heard some bad things about this after my purchase)

Jan 16, 2013, 04:50 PM	#5
drdeathx Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 1,515 (1.03/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 335 Times in 275 Posts System Specs	You have to isolate the issue. If you have a multimeter, you can check the PSU eaily. Make sure cpu is set properly. If the motherboard does not have a micro speaker, pick one up and check the beep codes.

System Name:	Halloween Boo!
Processor:	Intel Core i7 3770K
Motherboard:	Gigabyte Z77-Up7
Cooling:	Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240
Memory:	16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz
Video Card:	3 x Radeon 7970
Hard Disk:	OCZ Revo Drive 240G
Optical Drive:	Asus
CRT/LCD Model:	24 inch Viewsonic
Case:	Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench
PSU:	Nexus 1100 watt

Jan 16, 2013, 04:51 PM	#7
DiogoCDS19 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Portugal Posts: 201 (0.25/day) Thanks: 43 Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts System Specs	How many ram sticks ? Take them out and put them back. If more than 1 try 1 at time.

System Name:	BlueFire
Processor:	Core 2 Quad Q9450 (Lapped) @ 3,7Ghz - 1,31V
Motherboard:	P5Q-Deluxe
Cooling:	Zalman 9700 LED (Lapped)
Memory:	4Gb Kingston DDR2 @ 1052mhz
Video Card:	Nvidia Palit GTX460 SLI - HyperSLI (Ty anatolymik + All Team)
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell SE198WFP
Case:	CoolerMaster HAF 922
PSU:	Sapphire FirePsu 625W
Software:	Windows 8 - 64bit

Jan 16, 2013, 04:55 PM	#10
TheMailMan78 Banstick Dummy Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Crystal River, FL Posts: 15,111 (6.92/day) Thanks: 1,337 Thanked 6,834 Times in 3,741 Posts System Specs	Wait a second. Do you have a IGP?

System Name:	The Mailbox 3.5
Processor:	Intel i7 2600k @ 3.8GHz
Motherboard:	ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z
Cooling:	Stock
Memory:	G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB DDR3 1866: 9-9-9-24
Video Card:	EVGA GTX670 "FTW" Edition @ 1006MHz
Hard Disk:	256gb M4 SSD, 500Gb WD (7200)
Optical Drive:	LG - 24x Double-Layer DVD±RW/CD-RW Drive
CRT/LCD Model:	24" ASUS 1920 x 1080
Case:	Cooler Master 922 HAF
Sound Card:	SupremeFX X-Fi 2 with Bose Companion 2 speakers.
PSU:	SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold
Software:	Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit
Benchmarks:	Benching is for bitches.

Jan 16, 2013, 05:53 PM	#12
TC-man Join Date: May 2011 Location: Netherlands Posts: 331 (0.45/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 111 Times in 98 Posts System Specs	I think it's the PSU. Can you borrow a PSU from a friend? You can verify whether the PSU is the culprit of the issues you are experiencing now by testing your PC with an other PSU. I believe the Thermaltake Black Widow makes use of a pretty poor HEC OEM, which seems to be pretty bad, i.e. noises/ripples that are going haywire and that's bad for your PC hardware, and actually can damage PC hardware. Just hoping that the damage isn't already done because of such PSU.

Processor:	C2D E8400 @ 3.6 GHz \\ C2Q Q6600 @ 3.4 GHz
Motherboard:	Asus P5K \\ Asus P5K Deluxe
Cooling:	Xigmatek Dark Knight
Memory:	Corsair XMS2 4 GB \\ 4 GB
Video Card:	Sapphire HD 5850 \\ Sapphire HD 6850
Hard Disk:	2x 500 GB WD Blue \\ 2x 320 GB WD Blue
Optical Drive:	Samsung SH-S182M DVD-rewriter \\ Optiarc AD-7280S
Case:	CM 690
Sound Card:	Audigy 2 ZS \\ SoundMax ADI 1988B
PSU:	Corsair VX450
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate x64

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