Unexpected Performance - SAPPHIRE HD 7850 2GB GDDR5

apoxius · Jan 17, 2013, 12:31 PM

Hello everyone.

Just yesterday and after a lot of struggling (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=178098) I managed to build my rig (see specs) and got it working stable.

The problem now resides to my card performing badly. Like ...bad.

With my PC I can't even imagine what Blizzard could add in WoW to put it into a some kind of stress... With that being said I encounter an Impressive amount of constant 20 fps... on ultra, on high and on medium settings...

Really, I am all ears on what I should try to do to overcome this issue.

What I have already done (card is installed on PCIE X16):

Cleaned pervious drivers while being in safe mode
Freshly installed 12.10 drivers
Enabling / Disabling VSync
Power options in Win7 is set to High performance
Tried all of the variations in Catalyst
Run MSI AfterBurner while playing (everything looks fine)

I really try to convince myself I am not that unlucky (considering my last post in NVidia section) and I hope I am dumb enough to have forgotten something to do when I installed my card just to prove the hardware is not faulty... again.

Thanks in advance for those who will take some time to read / comment on this.

3870x2 · Jan 17, 2013, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apoxius

Hello everyone.

Just yesterday and after a lot of struggling (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=178098) I managed to build my rig (see specs) and got it working stable.

The problem now resides to my card performing badly. Like ...bad.

With my PC I can't even imagine what Blizzard could add in WoW to put it into a some kind of stress... With that being said I encounter an Impressive amount of constant 20 fps... on ultra, on high and on medium settings...

Really, I am all ears on what I should try to do to overcome this issue.

What I have already done (card is installed on PCIE X16):

Cleaned pervious drivers while being in safe mode
Freshly installed 12.10 drivers
Enabling / Disabling VSync
Power options in Win7 is set to High performance
Tried all of the variations in Catalyst
Run MSI AfterBurner while playing (everything looks fine)

I really try to convince myself I am not that unlucky (considering my last post in NVidia section) and I hope I am dumb enough to have forgotten something to do when I installed my card just to prove the hardware is not faulty... again.

Thanks in advance for those who will take some time to read / comment on this.

I wonder if the game is using your IGP? Have you tried other games?

andrewsmc · Jan 17, 2013, 12:41 PM

What is your temps? and does this occur immediately at start-up of WOW? or does it take time to start acting up?

apoxius · Jan 17, 2013, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3870x2

I wonder if the game is using your IGP? Have you tried other games?

What is the IGP ?

@ andrewsmc:

You should definetly be careful with that number of posts of yours

On startup and it stays that way.

Sasqui · Jan 17, 2013, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3870x2

wonder if the game is using your IGP?

Thinking the same thing

Quote:

Originally Posted by apoxius

What is the IGP ?

The video in your CPU and motherboard (onboard video). Check BIOS to see if it's enabled. If it is disable it and try again.

apoxius · Jan 17, 2013, 01:27 PM

Ohhh IGP stands for Integrated Graphics Processor ? How have I not thought about this. Yes, it is ofcourse disabled with its drivers wiped off

Crap Daddy · Jan 17, 2013, 06:19 PM

What CPU are you running, somehow I can't see your specs because I'm on tpu mobile version. World of Warcraft likes fast CPUs. What was the load on the GPU while gaming as shown in MSI afterburner?

xvi · Jan 17, 2013, 06:24 PM

I'd grab GPU-z, flip to the sensors, and fire up a game. I think we need to see what the card is doing.

apoxius · Jan 18, 2013, 11:27 AM

GPU when gaming had recorded a max of 99% if that helps (coming from MSI: Afterburner)

andrewsmc · Jan 18, 2013, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apoxius

What is the IGP ?

@ andrewsmc:

You should definetly be careful with that number of posts of yours

On startup and it stays that way.

What should i be careful about? I dont understand what you joking about.......?

Grnfinger · Jan 18, 2013, 11:38 AM

12.11 and 13.1 improved performance greatly on my 7870's

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewsmc

What should i be careful about? I dont understand what you joking about.......?

I believe your post count at the time was 666

Widjaja · Jan 18, 2013, 11:46 AM

Try running with no AA?
Make sure AA is not set to super sample?

Is it only WoW causing this problem?

Run the GPU-Z stress test to see if the PCI-E speed changes which will be noted in the GPU-Z application.

apoxius · Jan 18, 2013, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewsmc
What should i be careful about? I dont understand what you joking about.......?
I believe your post count at the time was 666

Exactly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

12.11 and 13.1 improved performance greatly on my 7870's

Unluckily for me it didn't...

glad to hear that it worked for you though.

And for the love of god... why does it have be this way when it comes to ATI drivers ?
I mean why do they go selectively on titles they want to optimize. Why not go for the whole thing. From what I've seen on the net, many (like... Many!) people complaint about ATI and how this company handles these situations.

Aquinus · Jan 18, 2013, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apoxius

And for the love of god... why does it have be this way when it comes to ATI drivers ?
I mean why do they go selectively on titles they want to optimize. Why not go for the whole thing. From what I've seen on the net, many (like... Many!) people complaint about ATI and how this company handles these situations.

Well, considering it works fine for other people, I suspect there is something else that is wrong other than drivers... There are plenty of people who don't have issues with AMD drivers either. Also ATi has been gone for a while, AMD gobbled it up some time back.

andrewsmc · Jan 18, 2013, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

12.11 and 13.1 improved performance greatly on my 7870's

I believe your post count at the time was 666

ROFL! ok i get it now

apoxius · Feb 5, 2013, 07:02 AM

...and here I am again.

Good morning to everyone.

So I returned my 7850 and covered the difference to get a GB 660 OC 2GB.

I will reply on my NVIDIA post @ http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...=178098&page=2

Thanks for all your help.

Jan 17, 2013, 12:31 PM	#1
apoxius Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 23 (0.03/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	Unexpected Performance - SAPPHIRE HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 Hello everyone. Just yesterday and after a lot of struggling (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=178098) I managed to build my rig (see specs) and got it working stable. The problem now resides to my card performing badly. Like ...bad. With my PC I can't even imagine what Blizzard could add in WoW to put it into a some kind of stress... With that being said I encounter an Impressive amount of constant 20 fps... on ultra, on high and on medium settings... Really, I am all ears on what I should try to do to overcome this issue. What I have already done (card is installed on PCIE X16): Cleaned pervious drivers while being in safe mode Freshly installed 12.10 drivers Enabling / Disabling VSync Power options in Win7 is set to High performance Tried all of the variations in Catalyst Run MSI AfterBurner while playing (everything looks fine) I really try to convince myself I am not that unlucky (considering my last post in NVidia section) and I hope I am dumb enough to have forgotten something to do when I installed my card just to prove the hardware is not faulty... again. Thanks in advance for those who will take some time to read / comment on this.

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Jan 17, 2013, 12:41 PM	#3
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Jan 17, 2013, 01:27 PM	#6
apoxius Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 23 (0.03/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	Ohhh IGP stands for Integrated Graphics Processor ? How have I not thought about this. Yes, it is ofcourse disabled with its drivers wiped off

Jan 17, 2013, 06:19 PM	#7
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Jan 17, 2013, 06:24 PM	#8
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Jan 18, 2013, 11:27 AM	#9
apoxius Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 23 (0.03/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	GPU when gaming had recorded a max of 99% if that helps (coming from MSI: Afterburner)

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Jan 18, 2013, 11:46 AM	#12
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Feb 5, 2013, 07:02 AM	#16
apoxius Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 23 (0.03/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	...and here I am again. Good morning to everyone. So I returned my 7850 and covered the difference to get a GB 660 OC 2GB. I will reply on my NVIDIA post @ http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...=178098&page=2 Thanks for all your help.

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