Can a SSD Hard drive be installed in a IDE laptop

trt740 · Jan 21, 2013, 07:07 PM

I have a old Compaq Presario R3000 Laptop that I am trying to breath a little more life into. I was wondering if it is possible to install a SSD drive into this older Windows Xp machine. I have never cloned and installed a SSD drive, and I was try to figure out if this is possible. Here are the old Lappys specs. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/p...product=442915 Believe it or not, it still looks brand new and is decent for home work or basic surfing the net. If it is possible, can you recommend a small drive to replace its current 4500 rpm 30 gb hard drive.

ALMOSTunseen · Jan 21, 2013, 07:12 PM

Putting an ssd in would be pointless, as IDE only reaches speed's of 133Mb/sec, which is the speed of most HDD's. But it is possible to get IDE SSD's.

trt740 · Jan 21, 2013, 07:20 PM

I did not realize that, but I was wondering can you recommend a fairly fast IDE hard drive to replace my current one. My current drive is a 2gb 4500 rpm, or would SSD be faster.

ALMOSTunseen · Jan 21, 2013, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trt740

I did not realize that, but I was wondering can you recommend a fairly fast IDE hard drive to replace my current one. My current drive is a 2gb 4500 rpm.

The question is, what do you want to spend? And how much space do you need?

Frick · Jan 21, 2013, 07:22 PM

Any fairly modern drive would probably be faster.

trt740 · Jan 21, 2013, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMOSTunseen

The question is, what do you want to spend? And how much space do you need?

I do not need more than say 60 to 100 gb, and I would be spending a $100.00 . This is just a old home work machine. It was my father in law's before he died and has nostalgic value to my wife.

Frick · Jan 21, 2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by trt740

I do not need more than say 60 to 100 gb, and I would be spending a $100.00 . This is just a old home work machine.

I really wouldn't spend that much on the machine. I probably wouldn't pay that for the entire computer.

How about this?
Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD1600BPVT 160GB 5400...

trt740 · Jan 21, 2013, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frick

I really wouldn't spend that much on the machine. I probably wouldn't pay that for the entire computer.

How about this?
Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD1600BPVT 160GB 5400...

It was my father in law's before he died and has nostalgic value to my wife. So it is important to her.

Frick · Jan 21, 2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by trt740

It was my father in law's before he died and has nostalgic value to my wife.

Saw the edit after I posted.

But any of these would be a good upgrade:
Notebook Hard Drives, Laptop Hard Drives - Newegg....

250 - 320GB for less than $50. You can probably go cheaper if you look at Ebay or something like that. Or see if someone on this forum has one for sale. The WD I posted is only 160GB.

ALMOSTunseen · Jan 21, 2013, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frick

I really wouldn't spend that much on the machine. I probably wouldn't pay that for the entire computer.

How about this?
Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD1600BPVT 160GB 5400...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frick

Saw the edit after I posted.

But any of these would be a good upgrade:
Notebook Hard Drives, Laptop Hard Drives - Newegg....

250 - 320GB for less than $50. You can probably go cheaper if you look at Ebay or something like that. Or see if someone on this forum has one for sale. The WD I posted is only 160GB.

It has to be PATA/IDE, not SATA

trt740 · Jan 21, 2013, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frick

Saw the edit after I posted.

But any of these would be a good upgrade:
Notebook Hard Drives, Laptop Hard Drives - Newegg....

250 - 320GB for less than $50. You can probably go cheaper if you look at Ebay or something like that. Or see if someone on this forum has one for sale. The WD I posted is only 160GB.

Cannot use SATA need IDE.

Frick · Jan 21, 2013, 07:32 PM

I THOUGHT I HAD FILTERED!!!11!! I was surprised at how cheap and plentiful IDE drives were.

Right.

brandonwh64 · Jan 21, 2013, 07:34 PM

They do make IDE SSD's but like others have said, it would still be bottlenecked by the controller.

https://www.google.com/shopping/prod...d=0CIQBEPMCMAI

trt740 · Jan 21, 2013, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

They do make IDE SSD's but like others have said, it would still be bottlenecked by the controller.

https://www.google.com/shopping/prod...d=0CIQBEPMCMAI

I wonder if it would be faster, but I bet a IDE drive would be less hassle and faster than my current drive.

ALMOSTunseen · Jan 21, 2013, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

They do make IDE SSD's but like others have said, it would still be bottlenecked by the controller.

https://www.google.com/shopping/prod...d=0CIQBEPMCMAI

And you are paying for it too, as they are not widely produced.

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 21, 2013, 07:36 PM

This is the only IDe drive newegg has.

Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD800BEVE 80GB 5400 R...

ALMOSTunseen · Jan 21, 2013, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

This is the only IDe drive newegg has.

Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD800BEVE 80GB 5400 R...

Just found that one too! Amazon has quite a variety:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=prid-20&...opularity-rank

Edit:
Link not working for some reason. Just filter for Internal HDD, PATA(IDE), and 2.5 Inch

trt740 · Jan 21, 2013, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

This is the only IDe drive newegg has.

Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD800BEVE 80GB 5400 R...

From the reviews someone wrote, "Pros: Received in 3-days. Easy install, booted & loaded Win-XP less than 1-hour. Works great. Revived old Presario R3000 notebook.Cons: None at this time." So it will work with my current computer.

ALMOSTunseen · Jan 21, 2013, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trt740

From the reviews someone wrote, "Pros: Received in 3-days. Easy install, booted & loaded Win-XP less than 1-hour. Works great. Revived old Presario R3000 notebook.Cons: None at this time." So it will work with my current computer.

Any IDE drive should. Check amazon, that is way overpriced for it's capacity.

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 21, 2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by trt740

From the reviews someone wrote, "Pros: Received in 3-days. Easy install, booted & loaded Win-XP less than 1-hour. Works great. Revived old Presario R3000 notebook.Cons: None at this time." So it will work with my current computer.

fair enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMOSTunseen

Any IDE drive should. Check amazon, that is way overpriced for it's capacity.

Id be wiery. Ive got stuff from amazon before where they fullfilled it and its from another retailer, and it was junk. It wasn't a computer part but something else. Nothing like description and shit. So OP if you buy from amazon, make sure it says ships and sold by amazon haha.

ALMOSTunseen · Jan 21, 2013, 07:44 PM

These look fine:
http://www.amazon.com/HTS541210H9AT0...8800936&sr=1-6
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST9808...8801017&sr=1-7

brandonwh64 · Jan 21, 2013, 07:44 PM

Pata is IDE so yes it should work

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA

ALMOSTunseen · Jan 21, 2013, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

Id be wiery. Ive got stuff from amazon before where they fullfilled it and its from another retailer, and it was junk. It wasn't a computer part but something else. Nothing like description and shit. So OP if you buy from amazon, make sure it says ships and sold by amazon haha.

Pretty much all the IDE drives are from other retailers, probably because amazon doesn't bother to stock them any more.

newtekie1 · Jan 21, 2013, 07:53 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Ssd-2-5-32Gb-I..._2?ref=prid-20

I'd get that. For the price you are looking at spending on an HDD, you might as well just go ahead and get the SSD, as long as space isn't a big concern. And heck, the SSD is bigger than the HDD in it now.

Yes, and SSD will be slowed down by the IDE interface, however it isn't just about raw read/write speed. Latency is a large factor in why SSDs make the system feel faster. Plus, most 5400RPM IDE drives, even modern ones on the market today, will be way slower than an IDE SSD.

ALMOSTunseen · Jan 21, 2013, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

http://www.amazon.com/Ssd-2-5-32Gb-I..._2?ref=prid-20

I'd get that. For the price you are looking at spending on an HDD, you might as well just go ahead and get the SSD, as long as space isn't a big concern. And heck, the SSD is bigger than the HDD in it now.

Yes, and SSD will be slowed down by the IDE interface, however it isn't just about raw read/write speed. Latency is a large factor in why SSDs make the system feel faster. Plus, most 5400RPM IDE drives, even modern ones on the market today, will be way slower than an IDE SSD.

I was considering this, but it 32gb enough for him? If he wanted more, 64 GB would be the next step up, and that would be about 100 or so.

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trt740 Eligible for custom title Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,186 (3.97/day) Thanks: 1,578 Thanked 1,135 Times in 960 Posts System Specs	I did not realize that, but I was wondering can you recommend a fairly fast IDE hard drive to replace my current one. My current drive is a 2gb 4500 rpm, or would SSD be faster.

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