World of Warcraft 30FPS on a new Xfire PC - Page 2

Paladone · Jan 20, 2013, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

just make sure you set the limit so something like 120, otherwise you risk your hardware overheating (sure it can push 300FPS on low - but its gunna run at 100% to do so)

as was said above as well, crossfire will only work in fullscreen. not windowed or borderless window mode.

I tried Fullscreen mode, no success

Paladone · Jan 20, 2013, 03:27 PM

I Noticed here http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ssFire/19.html that The benchmark at 1080P with 7970 crossfire is 160FPS. I'm not too worried about the FPS, if it sat at 100 constantly i'd be happy. What's annoying me is that it's spiking a lot, especially when i load into a new zone.
EDIT: And ever here http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...n,3104-11.html with one 7970, 104FPS and 84FPS min, The benchmark results don't seem to show the same lag spikes that mine produce. According to quite a few sites and forums, WoW does not work properly with Xfire and the gains can be slim to none, but the TPU benchmarks say otherwise. What do you think?

NinkobEi · Jan 20, 2013, 06:43 PM

I think the TPU bench-marker knew what he was doing and could make crossfire work with Frogger if he wanted to. Remove one card from your system and see what happens.

Mussels · Jan 21, 2013, 12:44 AM

have you got any other programs running, like antivirus? they could cause the lag.

so could a fragmented hard drive, or an SSD screwing up (my vertex II was terrible for stuttering)

Paladone · Jan 21, 2013, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

have you got any other programs running, like antivirus? they could cause the lag.

so could a fragmented hard drive, or an SSD screwing up (my vertex II was terrible for stuttering)

How can i tell if that's the case? I'll try disabling my anti-virus when i next can access my PC. I've been told that another possibility is that my CPU is bottlenecking my WoW, which i don't think is a realistic idea. What do you think?

I'll try using one card next time i have acess to my PC.

andrewsmc · Jan 21, 2013, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Paladone

How can i tell if that's the case? I'll try disabling my anti-virus when i next can access my PC. I've been told that another possibility is that my CPU is bottlenecking my WoW, which i don't think is a realistic idea. What do you think?

I'll try using one card next time i have acess to my PC.

Fill out your system specs please, just so we dont have to keep jumping around to see them.

Paladone · Jan 21, 2013, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by andrewsmc

Fill out your system specs please, just so we dont have to keep jumping around to see them.

Yeah sorry, Done. @ Mussels, I don't think it's my hdd or SSD, i tried installing the game on both as well as running off of an external hard drive. I will keep trying!!!

Do you think it could be to do with my video cards having different core clocks?

Mussels · Jan 21, 2013, 05:23 AM

i suppose something worht checking: what are your CPU temps while you're gaming?

it could be overheating and throttling, if somethings wrong with its cooling.

Paladone · Jan 21, 2013, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

i suppose something worht checking: what are your CPU temps while you're gaming?

it could be overheating and throttling, if somethings wrong with its cooling.

I'm not sure, i'll check when i can, but at 100% load when i ran a 12 hour torture test they sat around 65 and maxxed out at about 73

Mussels · Jan 21, 2013, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Paladone

I'm not sure, i'll check when i can, but at 100% load when i ran a 12 hour torture test they sat around 65 and maxxed out at about 73

the problem with those tests, is they dont account for the heat of everything else (video cards, namely) when gaming.

all that heat combined *could* cause throttling, and erratic performance.

Paladone · Jan 21, 2013, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mussels

the problem with those tests, is they dont account for the heat of everything else (video cards, namely) when gaming.

all that heat combined *could* cause throttling, and erratic performance.

Oh good point, i'll check on that next time i have access to my pc.

CrackerJack · Jan 22, 2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquinus

That's because CFX requires full screen. If you run windowed mode it won't run in CFX mode. Aka: It won't scale at all because it isn't working.

I'm aware of that, I just didn't see good enough improvements to actually run the game in crossfire. Not worth the heat

3870x2 · Jan 22, 2013, 04:47 PM

WoW must have changed, back when I played for a short stint, I was getting over 120 FPS on a single 4870. Maybe this wasnt the populated areas, but I never remember having any performance issues. My buddy would play this on his IGP intel HD3000.

NinkobEi · Jan 22, 2013, 04:49 PM

It could be your internet connection. If you're running a 56k in some online games your FPS could take a hit. In these circumstances, no amount of hardware can make up for it. What kind of latency are you getting? Make sure to stop torrents and what-not as uploading hits your bandwidth quite hard.

Also, open Task manager and visit the CPU tab make sure there is no process called "System Interrupts" popping up above 5% of CPU load. That's caused by bad drivers somewhere and your CPU having to pull double duty to make up for them.

Frick · Jan 22, 2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 3870x2

WoW must have changed, back when I played for a short stint, I was getting over 120 FPS on a single 4870. Maybe this wasnt the populated areas, but I never remember having any performance issues. My buddy would play this on his IGP intel HD3000.

The graphics have been updated over time. I used to play it on a Radeon 9000 Pro, now it's unplayable in some areas with a Radeon 2400 Pro.

3870x2 · Jan 22, 2013, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Frick

The graphics have been updated over time. I used to play it on a Radeon 9000 Pro, now it's unplayable in some areas with a Radeon 2400 Pro.

That would make sense.

CrackerJack · Jan 23, 2013, 08:17 PM

WoW supports DirectX 11

W1zzard · Jan 23, 2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Paladone

WoW does not work properly with Xfire and the gains can be slim to none

my latest rebench on Catalyst 13.1, WOW DX11, with an unreleased dual-GPU card seems to support that.

check if turning off dx11 helps

Aquinus · Jan 23, 2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by W1zzard

my latest rebench on Catalyst 13.1, WOW DX11, with an unreleased dual-GPU card seems to support that.

check if turning off dx11 helps

Are the GPUs fully utilized though? I wouldn't be surprised if it was a CPU bottleneck rather than a GPU bottleneck even with the fastest of modern hardware. Blizzard games have always bottlenecked my CPU. Both SC2 and D3 can bottleneck my 3820 with my 6870s in crossfire in some scenes. It has been some time since I played WoW and maybe that has changed. Maybe I will renew for a month just to give it a try.

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Jan 20, 2013, 03:27 PM	#27
Paladone Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 167 (1.01/day) Thanks: 95 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts System Specs	I Noticed here http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ssFire/19.html that The benchmark at 1080P with 7970 crossfire is 160FPS. I'm not too worried about the FPS, if it sat at 100 constantly i'd be happy. What's annoying me is that it's spiking a lot, especially when i load into a new zone. EDIT: And ever here http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...n,3104-11.html with one 7970, 104FPS and 84FPS min, The benchmark results don't seem to show the same lag spikes that mine produce. According to quite a few sites and forums, WoW does not work properly with Xfire and the gains can be slim to none, but the TPU benchmarks say otherwise. What do you think? Last edited by Paladone; Jan 20, 2013 at 03:34 PM.

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