I7 930 on P6X58D-E - Page 2

johnspack · Jan 24, 2013, 05:29 PM

Hmm, you guys are getting me to think about playing with settings again... wonder if my gene II would like over 200 bclk, would like to get my ram speed up a bit more....
Edit: and yes, 930s and 950s like odd multis, so 21x and 23x are the only options....

drdeathx · Jan 24, 2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by johnspack

Hmm, you guys are getting me to think about playing with settings again... wonder if my gene II would like over 200 bclk, would like to get my ram speed up a bit more....

Don't worry about memory. You will be lucky to pull over 1900MHz anyhow and there will be minimal gains with the 930. Concentrate on core speed. In the day, I was a master with these chips. Got 4.7GHz suicide on it.

johnspack · Jan 24, 2013, 05:33 PM

That would be good enough for me! And this chip will do at least 4.3 stable... but I don't have water cooling.

tongey54 · Jan 24, 2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

Don't worry about memory. You will be lucky to pull over 1900MHz anyhow and there will be minimal gains with the 930. Concentrate on core speed. In the day, I was a master with these chips. Got 4.7GHz suicide on it.

IBT and Prime stable?

drdeathx · Jan 24, 2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by johnspack

That would be good enough for me! And this chip will do at least 4.3 stable... but I don't have water cooling.

You may be limited with your cooling. I would test how high you could get the bclck and see how high the system boots 1st. See what the beast has. Cooling will have no effect in seeing max Bclck.

johnspack · Jan 24, 2013, 05:35 PM

I didn't want to go past 4.3, because temps were getting out of hand... it might do 4.5 with a full custom loop.

brandonwh64 · Jan 24, 2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

Incorrect, You could easily go over 200 BClck and as mentioned, Bloomfield CPU's played better with odd multi. You most likely needed more voltage.

No you are incorrect.

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Originally Posted by Binge

At and beyond 200 BCLK the qpi/vtt voltage required to post become too high to be considered safe to overclock for over 24 hours.

Pull straight from TPU's X58 OCing thread. Most boards did not have the voltage capabilities to run above 200 Bclk 24/7. I have went through 20 boards on X58 and maybe 5 could do it stable.

drdeathx · Jan 24, 2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

No you are incorrect.

Pull straight from TPU's X58 OCing thread. Most boards did not have the voltage capabilities to run above 200 Bclk 24/7. I have went through 20 boards on X58 and maybe 5 could do it stable.

Umm, I am not. I reviewed many X58 boards. How many have you reviewed? LOL A $130 X58-UD3 pulled it easily. 20 boards, you must have used EVERY X58 retail board... LOL

brandonwh64 · Jan 24, 2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

Umm, I am not. I reviewed many X58 boards. How many have you reviewed?

I am not arguing with you, I am just posting my findings and we all know you HAVE to be right and argumentative.

johnspack · Jan 24, 2013, 05:38 PM

Okay, have to try now... going to see if this thing can pull 200+... inquiring minds must know....

drdeathx · Jan 24, 2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

I am not arguing with you, I am just posting my findings and we all know you HAVE to be right and argumentative.

Seeing you used a 20 multi you didn't know 19 multi on the 920 was the trick..... You did have a 920 though so you may have been limited. The OP has a 930 so he should easily break 200 FSB.

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Originally Posted by johnspack

Okay, have to try now... going to see if this thing can pull 200+... inquiring minds must know....

Make sure Turbo is disabled and use a odd multi even if the multi is low.

brandonwh64 · Jan 24, 2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

Seeing you used a 20 multi you didn't know 19 multi on the 920 was the trick..... You did have a 920 though so you may have been limited. The OP has a 930 so he should easily break 200 FSB.

I used a multi 21, 20, 19.

ZenZimZaliben · Jan 24, 2013, 05:42 PM

I hit 210BCLK on my GIGABYTE x58 UD7 and X58 UD3 w/i7 930. I may have been lucky, or the added watercooling to the chipset helped. Not something I would run 24/7 though. 205 was comfortable though.

drdeathx · Jan 24, 2013, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

I used a multi 21, 20, 19.

ON 920's the only way you could use 21 was with turbo enabled. I am a sharp mofo. Turbo enabled would not be able to overclcock high on 920's.

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Originally Posted by ZenZimZaliben

I hit 210BCLK on my GIGABYTE x58 UD7 and X58 UD3 w/i7 930. I may have been lucky, or the added watercooling to the chipset helped.

Testing the BClck on boot no boot with air cooling would not matter. Stress test yes.. Watercooling chipset would not make any difference with air or water. Watercooling extreme voltages, yes. Even at 1.4 volts, chipset would be fine. A small fan on chipset certainly would not hurt.

The UD7 certainly would do better than UD3 or the same....

johnspack · Jan 24, 2013, 06:21 PM

Well, I wish it was binned better... can't do 200 bclk at all, but got it running stable at 4.17ghz, except under extreme stress testing, it hits 95c... Really need water cooling for over 4ghz on these.

drdeathx · Jan 24, 2013, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by johnspack

Well, I wish it was binned better... can't do 200 bclk at all, but got it running stable at 4.17ghz, except under extreme stress testing, it hits 95c... Really need water cooling for over 4ghz on these.

I would stop. Bloomfield CPU's degrdate easily. Don't take it over high 70's

johnspack · Jan 24, 2013, 06:53 PM

I took it down to 4.1, low 70s in gaming. I want an sb-e, so I don't expect this to last forever....

johnspack · Jan 24, 2013, 07:22 PM

Thanks for the kick in the butt... running 4.1ghz, ram at 1800, max temp when gaming is now 66c, 53c is average. Fps gain isn't huge, but is noticeable. Had to crack a window in my computer room to do it, but it's worth it.

drdeathx · Jan 24, 2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by johnspack

I took it down to 4.1, low 70s in gaming. I want an sb-e, so I don't expect this to last forever....

I have one if your interested. PM me.

johnspack · Jan 25, 2013, 03:57 AM

New stable oc. Stays well under 70c now under load. Guess this cpu did have more left in it...

Guess I'll be happy with this for another year, then I hope to god I can cobble together a SB-E system......

brandonwh64 · Jan 25, 2013, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by johnspack

Well, I wish it was binned better... can't do 200 bclk at all, but got it running stable at 4.17ghz, except under extreme stress testing, it hits 95c... Really need water cooling for over 4ghz on these.

Oh you couldn't??? I wonder why? Seems the good Dr knows it all.

johnspack · Jan 25, 2013, 04:37 AM

it can do over 200, but divider crap puts my ram at over 2000, and it just wont do that. I'd have to crank qpi ect, and I still don't think my ram would do it.

drdeathx · Jan 25, 2013, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Oh you couldn't??? I wonder why? Seems the good Dr knows it all.

Brandon stop.... you have no idea what voltages he has or his memory. Every time you pull this you lose. If you read his replies and look at CPUID you would understand.

HERE Brandon:

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Originally Posted by johnspack

it can do over 200, but divider crap puts my ram at over 2000, and it just wont do that. I'd have to crank qpi ect, and I still don't think my ram would do it.

There is a divider for memory to back the frequency down. Also, you may need more vcore. I needed 1.42 volts for 4.5GHz and 215 Bclck. Make sure turbo is disable too. Disable turbo and use 21 on the BClck.

johnspack · Jan 25, 2013, 06:12 AM

Yes, I can back memory down, but under 1600... not what I bought 1866 ram for. And even though I could get 4.3 stable, this is the best compromise. SB systems give you more choice. An ivy bridge system I built for a client would allow me to select any speed ram I wanted, and boot to that. 1st gen systems are a pain in the ass... just the reality.

brandonwh64 · Jan 25, 2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

Brandon stop.... you have no idea what voltages he has or his memory. Every time you pull this you lose. If you read his replies and look at CPUID you would understand.

HERE Brandon:

There is a divider for memory to back the frequency down. Also, you may need more vcore. I needed 1.42 volts for 4.5GHz and 215 Bclck. Make sure turbo is disable too. Disable turbo and use 21 on the BClck.

I believe you have been proven wrong countless times, You give some of the worst advice.

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johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,750 (1.80/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 754 Times in 519 Posts System Specs	That would be good enough for me! And this chip will do at least 4.3 stable... but I don't have water cooling. __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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Jan 24, 2013, 05:38 PM	#35
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,750 (1.80/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 754 Times in 519 Posts System Specs	Okay, have to try now... going to see if this thing can pull 200+... inquiring minds must know.... __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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Jan 24, 2013, 06:21 PM	#40
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,750 (1.80/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 754 Times in 519 Posts System Specs	Well, I wish it was binned better... can't do 200 bclk at all, but got it running stable at 4.17ghz, except under extreme stress testing, it hits 95c... Really need water cooling for over 4ghz on these. __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,750 (1.80/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 754 Times in 519 Posts System Specs	I took it down to 4.1, low 70s in gaming. I want an sb-e, so I don't expect this to last forever.... __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,750 (1.80/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 754 Times in 519 Posts System Specs	Thanks for the kick in the butt... running 4.1ghz, ram at 1800, max temp when gaming is now 66c, 53c is average. Fps gain isn't huge, but is noticeable. Had to crack a window in my computer room to do it, but it's worth it. __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,750 (1.80/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 754 Times in 519 Posts System Specs	New stable oc. Stays well under 70c now under load. Guess this cpu did have more left in it... Guess I'll be happy with this for another year, then I hope to god I can cobble together a SB-E system...... __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

Jan 25, 2013, 04:37 AM	#47
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,750 (1.80/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 754 Times in 519 Posts System Specs	it can do over 200, but divider crap puts my ram at over 2000, and it just wont do that. I'd have to crank qpi ect, and I still don't think my ram would do it. __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

Jan 25, 2013, 06:12 AM	#49
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,750 (1.80/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 754 Times in 519 Posts System Specs	Yes, I can back memory down, but under 1600... not what I bought 1866 ram for. And even though I could get 4.3 stable, this is the best compromise. SB systems give you more choice. An ivy bridge system I built for a client would allow me to select any speed ram I wanted, and boot to that. 1st gen systems are a pain in the ass... just the reality. __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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