Cpu upgrade for hd 7770

[benxiii]

Originally Posted by Melvis

E5200 is still based on the core 2 arch just with less L2 cache? and my m8 ran two GTX 460's with a E8400 and yours is clock alot higher then that, im sure you would be fine with a 7770 at that res easy, you could go as far as maybe a GTX 650 Ti?

I dont see any if much at all bottle neck with a 7770 TBH

Originally Posted by tokyoduong

yes that chip should run every game you want to play. Unless you want to play metro 2033 at max setting, you should be able to run every other game above 30 fps easily on a 7770 with your 768p monitor.

sorry my mistake, i meant the duo @ 2.93... Is this chip okay ? Or were you mentioning the quad. I can get the duo for free and quad would cost a little. Is it worth upgrading to quad ?

[BrooksyX]

Honestly the 7770 is probably a good match for your e5400. Especially at the resolution you are playing at. But if you want a better cpu I would suggest picking up a used q9550 or q96500.

Here is a cheap one (its just a xeon version which "should" give you a little more oc headroom):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-2...item5650861b17

[benxiii]

Originally Posted by Melvis

E5200 is still based on the core 2 arch just with less L2 cache? and my m8 ran two GTX 460's with a E8400 and yours is clock alot higher then that, im sure you would be fine with a 7770 at that res easy, you could go as far as maybe a GTX 650 Ti?

I dont see any if much at all bottle neck with a 7770 TBH

Originally Posted by tokyoduong

yes that chip should run every game you want to play. Unless you want to play metro 2033 at max setting, you should be able to run every other game above 30 fps easily on a 7770 with your 768p monitor.

thanks any way

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Originally Posted by Melvis

E5200 is still based on the core 2 arch just with less L2 cache? and my m8 ran two GTX 460's with a E8400 and yours is clock alot higher then that, im sure you would be fine with a 7770 at that res easy, you could go as far as maybe a GTX 650 Ti?

I dont see any if much at all bottle neck with a 7770 TBH

Originally Posted by BrooksyX

Honestly the 7770 is probably a good match for your e5400. Especially at the resolution you are playing at. But if you want a better cpu I would suggest picking up a used q9550 or q96500.

Here is a cheap one (its just a xeon version which "should" give you a little more oc headroom):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-2...item5650861b17

so the e5400 won't hold back 7770 much ? I can oc it to 3.8

[BrooksyX]

Originally Posted by benxiii

so the e5400 won't hold back 7770 much ? I can oc it to 3.8

Maybe a little but now days I would consider most games are bottlenecked by the GPU, not the CPU. My 2500k is definitely bottle necked by my 6870 but then again my 2500k is running at 4.75ghz and my 6870 doesnt like to OC very much (crashes even when OCED via CCC but I might have flashed the default voltage to be lower, dont remember).

[_JP_]

Originally Posted by benxiii

Anyway what do you think of core 2 duo 2.93 ? What model is it ? E8XX ?

Originally Posted by benxiii

i can get a core 2 duo 2.93 ghz (stock speed) for free. But is a core 2 quad worth upgrading ? though it won't cost me much.

Originally Posted by benxiii

sorry my mistake, i meant the duo @ 2.93... Is this chip okay ? Or were you mentioning the quad. I can get the duo for free and quad would cost a little. Is it worth upgrading to quad ?

First of all, get your details sorted out.
What Core 2 Duo are we talking about? A E7500 or a X6800?
Same goes for the quad core, Q9500, Q9505(S) or Q9550(S)?
Because there's a difference between all of them, a difference that might matter for you, regarding performance. (Which is also affected by RAM)
Also, energy consumption, since we have no idea what kind of PSU you have and "stock" won't cut it for us. If you happen to have something like a 300W unit, a HD 6850 would probably melt part of it.

At your resolution, the CPU will take a higher percentage of the load. Going for another dual core would be sidegrading, since you would only get increases in cache and FSB (clock can be changed), thus marginal bump in performance. Quad cores would help, but only where multi-threaded programs are concerned. Not to mention that quads suck more energy when OCing and heating starts being a serious problem.

For your screen resolution, a HD 7770 or a HD 7850 is fine. As for a CPU upgrade (within the same socket), I wouldn't bother with it unless you plan on playing a game that really requires more than two threads, thus needing a quad-core CPU.

[AlienIsGOD]

Originally Posted by benxiii

And i've seen 7770 catch or outperform 6850 in tpu benchmarks

yea, with the 13.1 drivers the 7770 is on par with a 6850 and uses less power.

[benxiii]

Originally Posted by Melvis

E5200 is still based on the core 2 arch just with less L2 cache? and my m8 ran two GTX 460's with a E8400 and yours is clock alot higher then that, im sure you would be fine with a 7770 at that res easy, you could go as far as maybe a GTX 650 Ti?

I dont see any if much at all bottle neck with a 7770 TBH

Originally Posted by _JP_

First of all, get your details sorted out.
What Core 2 Duo are we talking about? A E7500 or a X6800?
Same goes for the quad core, Q9500, Q9505(S) or Q9550(S)?
Because there's a difference between all of them, a difference that might matter for you, regarding performance. (Which is also affected by RAM)
Also, energy consumption, since we have no idea what kind of PSU you have and "stock" won't cut it for us. If you happen to have something like a 300W unit, a HD 6850 would probably melt part of it.

At your resolution, the CPU will take a higher percentage of the load. Going for another dual core would be sidegrading, since you would only get increases in cache and FSB (clock can be changed), thus marginal bump in performance. Quad cores would help, but only where multi-threaded programs are concerned. Not to mention that quads suck more energy when OCing and heating starts being a serious problem.

For your screen resolution, a HD 7770 or a HD 7850 is fine. As for a CPU upgrade (within the same socket), I wouldn't bother with it unless you plan on playing a game that really requires more than two threads, thus needing a quad-core CPU.

okay... Firstly the core 2 duo is e7500 and the quad is e9550.
My psu is 400w space, but i'll change it.
And for multi threading idk what new games will be like.
Crysis 3, gta v, metal gear revengence, dmc 5, bioshock .... These are the games i'll mainly play... So gta 5 might be a problem since 4 was multithreaded.

[BrooksyX]

Originally Posted by benxiii

okay... Firstly the core 2 duo is e7500 and the quad is e9550.
My psu is 400w space, but i'll change it.
And for multi threading idk what new games will be like.
Crysis 3, gta v, metal gear revengence, dmc 5, bioshock .... These are the games i'll mainly play... So gta 5 might be a problem since 4 was multithreaded.

Don't think you are going to be able to play those games on high settings with an 7770...

Also its the q9550 not e9550

[benxiii]

Originally Posted by BrooksyX

Don't think you are going to be able to play those games on high settings with an 7770...

Also its the q9550 not e9550

well sorry my mistake....
But benchmark shows 7770 can run demanding games on high settings even at 1080p with reasonable (30-40) fps. Shouldn't i expect the same in my res (may be a few tweaks and no AA) ? Although they use i7 xxxx cpu's.

[BrooksyX]

Originally Posted by benxiii

well sorry my mistake....
But benchmark shows 7770 can run demanding games on high settings even at 1080p with reasonable (30-40) fps. Shouldn't i expect the same in my res (may be a few tweaks and no AA) ? Although they use i7 xxxx cpu's.

Buy mid range parts expect mid range performance.

Even with my setup up some newer games bring my system to its knees with the settings and AA cranked up.

[benxiii]

Okay... Btw will my stock space 400w be enough to power 7770 ?

[Liquid Cool]

Yes....the 400w psu is fine.

No reason to buy any cpu with a Q in front of it...the premium in this case really isn't worth it. $40 for an e8400 is cheap. I sold a quad q6600 last week on e-bay for $60...a Q9500 will set you back enough to start thinking i3.

LC

[Aleksander]

I had a friend with a 7770 350W which was a crappy one, downclocked

[Dent1]

Originally Posted by benxiii

well i can't afford a 6850 neitger can i find a cheap one. And i've seen 7770 catch or outperform 6850 in tpu benchmarks.... Specially in crysis 2. Anyway what do you think of core 2 duo 2.93 ? What model is it ? E8XX ?

The 7770 would never outperform the 6850, it might come close within 5-10% on a good day, but outperform would never happen. Link or it didn't happen.

Going from a an E5400 to an E8400 isnt wise, they are essentially the same CPU but with a cache and clockspeed handicap. Considering your E5400 is already overclocked @ 3.64Ghz I can't see the benefit buying another dual core. The only sensible CPU choice on socket 775 is a Q9xxx quad core, and only if you can get it cheap.

Without the CPU upgrade to atleast a Q9xxx, your rig will suffer on Crysis 2 and BF3 and you pose serious limitations on upcoming games.

BTW, how much system RAM do you have?

[BrooksyX]

I guess the best thing to ask here is what is your budget that you are trying to spend on the cpu and video card.

[benxiii]

I have 4gb of system ram
my budget is fixed with the gpu... No matter the price i'll have it.
And for the psu+cpu i really have a tight budget. $ 50 + anything i can get by selling my e5400 and 6570

Originally Posted by Dent1

The 7770 would never outperform the 6850, it might come close within 5-10% on a good day, but outperform would never happen. Link or it didn't happen.

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/re...770_OC/13.html

i know it's insane but it's almost the same with most 7770 cards although this one is the best i can find XD

non-oc :
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/re...D_7770/13.html

[tastegw]

7770 is a good gpu, not a beast, but should do you fine imo

[Dent1]

Originally Posted by benxiii

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/re...770_OC/13.html

i know it's insane but it's almost the same with most 7770 cards although this one is the best i can find XD

non-oc :
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/re...D_7770/13.html

Glitch in the results or a bug in rest run. Sometimes you get odd results which can't logically be explained. But look at all the other games and the 6850 is cearly faster.

Originally Posted by benxiii

I have 4gb of system ram

It's the bear minimum. BF3 can exceed this, I've only run 1440x900 and uses about just over 4GB of physical memory.

Edit:

Originally Posted by benxiii

did you run at max settings ?
tbh.... My 6570 could handle bf3 with med settings and no AA at 1366x768. 4 gb was not a problem then.

Yes I play with max settings. But honestly what was the frame rate like? Use Fraps and monitor it.

[benxiii]

Originally Posted by Dent1

Glitch in the results or a bug in rest run. Sometimes you get odd results which can't logically be explained. But look at all the other games and the 6850 is cearly faster.



It's the bear minimum. BF3 can exceed this, I've only run 1440x900 and uses about just over 4GB of physical memory.

did you run at max settings ?
tbh.... My 6570 could handle bf3 with med settings and no AA at 1366x768. 4 gb was not a problem then.

[Melvis]

Originally Posted by benxiii

i have even seen people suggest 6850 for e5400/5500 XD
and these pentium chips do overclock better.
And btw, what was your m8's tv res ?

He was running at first 1680*1050 then moved to 1080P and it ran most games pretty well except for black ops for some weird reason.

Originally Posted by TRWOV

Apparently you can upgrade to a Core 2 Quad. Dual cores are fine but Quads are better for the next wave of games. With 1366x768 limiting your GPU output I'd say that the 7770 is plenty. As for the CPU you don't need to upgrade unless you find yourself having low performance.

The 2.8 Quad is a Q9500 I assume? That's a fine chip. If you want to upgrade to a Quad that's a pretty good option IMO.

What he said^ thats exactly what you should do!!

Originally Posted by benxiii

i can get a core 2 duo 2.93 ghz (stock speed) for free. But is a core 2 quad worth upgrading ? though it won't cost me much.

If you can get it for free then why not, clock it up the same or higher then what you already have and that should be a increase and for free you cant go wrong.

Honestly if you can get a quad for at 2.8GHz or higher for cheap then go that way instead, many games love more cores, trust me im now running 8cores and im getting increases in all games compared to my older quad.

Originally Posted by benxiii

sorry my mistake, i meant the duo @ 2.93... Is this chip okay ? Or were you mentioning the quad. I can get the duo for free and quad would cost a little. Is it worth upgrading to quad ?

The chip would be fine paired with the 7770

Originally Posted by benxiii

so the e5400 won't hold back 7770 much ? I can oc it to 3.8

i dont think so, i think it would run pretty sweet with your current set up, but moving to a CPU with more cores is a must in todays gaming for the future.

Originally Posted by tastegw

7770 is a good gpu, not a beast, but should do you fine imo

Yep i would agree

[Cruise51]

I had a similar system with a core 2 duo @2.3GHz and a HD7770. The HD7770 is a pretty good card, it performs the same as a HD6850 and consumes much less power. The cpu is a small bottleneck but I could still game at 1920x1080 fairly well. If you can get a core 2 duo @ 2.9GHz for free, go for it. Once overclocked it would be a great mid range gaming machine. If you can't get the core 2 duo @ 2.9Ghz for free, stay with your current e5400. It's high overclock will remove most of the bottleneck.

[Aleksander]

I would go for 7770 for power consumption and less heat