Peoples thoughts on new build

[Ojee83]

Hi guys, I am going to be starting my new build as soon as i've finished all of my research
(it's been about 10 years since i last attempted one.)
Here's a list of all of my components would welcome any criticism... hints on how to make it better/cheaper, porblems you might know with any of the hardware I've selected.
The whole thing cost around £850 or about $1300, i think.... and I'm going to be using it for gaming/ media center with some sp2500 2.1 Corsair speakers and a Samsung 1920x1200 40" TV. External Wi-Fi hard drive. It will be running Windows 7. and i may be overclocking the CPU someday in the future.

Case
BitFenix Raider Tower Case - Black

CPU
Intel Core i5-3570 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor

Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-V LX2 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard

RAM
Patriot Intel Extreme Masters 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit

CPU cooler
Zalman CNPS9900-MAX Blue LED CPU Cooler

Power
Corsair 2013 Edition Gamer Series GS 600W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply

Boot drive
Samsung 120GB SSD 840 SATA 6Gb/s Basic

Optical drive
Pioneer BDC-207DBK 8x BluRay ROM / DVDRW SATA-II Optical Drive


Graphics
MSI GeForce GTX 660Ti Power Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

Im going to be buying all of my stuff from overclockers UK, the best place to get any pc hardware in uk IMO.
Thanks for your time guys... i look forward to hearing from you.

[RCoon]

Originally Posted by Ojee83

Hi guys, I am going to be starting my new build as soon as i've finished all of my research
(it's been about 10 years since i last attempted one.)
Here's a list of all of my components would welcome any criticism... hints on how to make it better/cheaper, porblems you might know with any of the hardware I've selected.
The whole thing cost around £850 or about $1300, i think.... and I'm going to be using it for gaming/ media center with some sp2500 2.1 Corsair speakers and a Samsung 1920x1200 40" TV. External Wi-Fi hard drive. It will be running Windows 7. and i may be overclocking the CPU someday in the future.

Case
BitFenix Raider Tower Case - Black

CPU
Intel Core i5-3570 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor

Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-V LX2 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard

RAM
Patriot Intel Extreme Masters 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit

CPU cooler
Zalman CNPS9900-MAX Blue LED CPU Cooler

Power
Corsair 2013 Edition Gamer Series GS 600W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply

Boot drive
Samsung 120GB SSD 840 SATA 6Gb/s Basic

Optical drive
Pioneer BDC-207DBK 8x BluRay ROM / DVDRW SATA-II Optical Drive


Graphics
MSI GeForce GTX 660Ti Power Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

Im going to be buying all of my stuff from overclockers UK, the best place to get any pc hardware in uk IMO.
Thanks for your time guys... i look forward to hearing from you.

People are going to start telling you to change the Mobo, Asus has BIOS issues, but not everybody will notice these. Gigabyte UD5's are a legit choice.
That CPU Cooler, it sucks. Noctua have great air coolers, or take a look at the H80i, most people recommend those round here.
Also Over-clockers is Over-priced. See what I did there? CCL Online, Ebuyer.com, Scan.co.uk, Dabs.com. All will likely be cheaper, and have superier delivery and customer services. CCL Online will also price match.
You got a budget? And why not 3570k? Or are you not much of an overclocker?

[adulaamin]

Originally Posted by Ojee83

i may be overclocking the CPU someday in the future.


CPU
Intel Core i5-3570 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor

Change that to the K version if you plan to do any overclocking.

[Ojee83]

Ah, yeah. That was supposed to be a K there. And i will look into that motherboard, It was a toss up between gigabyte and asus for me. Also, thanks for those retail suggestions ill have a look into that aswell. Cheers guys. and thanks for the heads up on the cooler...

[RCoon]

Originally Posted by Ojee83

Ah, yeah. That was supposed to be a K there. And i will look into that motherboard, It was a toss up between gigabyte and asus for me. Also, thanks for those retail suggestions ill have a look into that aswell. Cheers guys.

I'm like a walking talking advertisement!
Speaking of which, hit up the TPU Teamspeak server, we're in need of more Brits to overthrow the overwhelming amount of Americans and TheMailMan

[Jack1n]

is that boot SSD a standard 840 or the pro one? if its the standard better get the 830 instead as the non pro 840 is a TLC drive.

[n0tiert]

u might also think on a greater PSU, with 600W you are running your PSU in the upper area, not much room for more Power

[Jack1n]

Originally Posted by n0tiert

u might also think on a greater PSU, with 600W you are running your PSU in the upper area, not much room for more Power

What are you talking about,its more than enough for a single 660Ti,if he was going to SLI in the future though i would recommend a 750W(600 will still do SLI but will have a shorter life span and lower efficiency due to high stress).

[RCoon]

Also thanks to LAW-II's info in another thread, the 670 has shown to have faster memory bandwidth than the 660ti

[Ojee83]

right, i was a bit worried about the PSU as i couldn't really work out about power usage in a system. U reckon a 750 watt would be ok? is there a way of working out what kind of power your system is going to be using? I guess i could fork out the extra money on a graphics card but i dont really want to be going over £900. and its just the standard 840.... i just assumed the higher the number the better lol.

[RCoon]

Originally Posted by Ojee83

right, i was a bit worried about the PSU as i couldn't really work out about power usage in a system. U reckon a 750 watt would be ok? is there a way of working out what kind of power your system is going to be using? I guess i could fork out the extra money on a graphics card but i dont really want to be going over £900.

This is not accurate, but:
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/p...ulatorlite.jsp

[Jack1n]

Originally Posted by Ojee83

right, i was a bit worried about the PSU as i couldn't really work out about power usage in a system. U reckon a 750 watt would be ok? is there a way of working out what kind of power your system is going to be using? I guess i could fork out the extra money on a graphics card but i dont really want to be going over £900.

Theres is no need for a 750watt unless your going to SLI another 660TI down the road.

EDIT: BTW a better card for slightly less money:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-098-GI

[brandonwh64]

I have owned a could revisions of that zalman cooler and didn't like it one bit. I would go for a 120mm DHPT style cooler such as:

corsair A70
Xigmatek Dark Knight II
Thermaltake Frio
Coolermaster Hyper 212+ EVO
NZXT Respire T40

I would recommend the Noctua NH-D14 but it is quite huge and may not fit some cases but its cooling abilities are very good.

Now another option is an All-In-One Water cooler such as

Thermaltake Water2.0 series
Corsair Hxx series
NZXT Kraken series
Coolermaster Seidon Series
Zalman LQ series

[n0tiert]

Originally Posted by Jack1n

What are you talking about,its more than enough for a single 660Ti,if he was going to SLI in the future though i would recommend a 750W(600 will still do SLI but will have a shorter life span and lower efficiency due to high stress).

Well if we talk on "NEW" Build , why choose such weak PSU Perf. @ beginning ?
make the Build to run in Future too , without rebuing a new PSU if you go on SLI or more fans, Hardware whatever.......

3 x 120 fans already pull 15 Watts
(12V * 0.41A = 4,92W * 3 = 14,76 W)
most newer cases have 3+ fans

i had a intel/8800GTX OC, System running with a corsair 600 watt, all worked fine, just added a 6970 (removed 8800GTX OC), bang PSU had not enough juice for it so i had to go on a Corsair GS800

[Norton]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

I have owned a could revisions of that zalman cooler and didn't like it one bit. I would go for a 120mm DHPT style cooler such as:

corsair A70
Xigmatek Dark Knight II
Thermaltake Frio
Coolermaster Hyper 212+ EVO
NZXT Respire T40

I would recommend the Noctua NH-D14 but it is quite huge and may not fit some cases but its cooling abilities are very good.

Now another option is an All-In-One Water cooler such as

Thermaltake Water2.0 series
Corsair Hxx series
NZXT Kraken series
Coolermaster Seidon Series
Zalman LQ series

+1 on the Xig DK Night Hawk cooler (I run 3 of them). Very good performance, solid mounting system, and looks great. The only downside is that it is a little expensive ($40-50) and mounting fans on it is a bit of a pain....

[Jack1n]

Originally Posted by n0tiert

Well if we talk on "NEW" Build , why choose such weak PSU Perf. @ beginning ?
make the Build to run in Future too , without rebuing a new PSU if you go on SLI or more fans, Hardware whatever.......

3 x 120 fans already pull 15 Watts
(12V * 0.41A = 4,92W * 3 = 14,76 W)
most newer cases have 3+ fans

i had a intel/8800GTX OC, System running with a corsair 600 watt, all worked fine, just added a 6970 (removed 8800GTX OC), bang PSU had not enough juice for it so i had to go on a Corsair GS800

Most likely because the PSU had already degraded,still even a degraded 600watt should keep up with a single 6970.

[okidna]

Originally Posted by n0tiert

u might also think on a greater PSU, with 600W you are running your PSU in the upper area, not much room for more Power

This is funny

Seriously, 600W will be more than enough for an i5 with a single GPU, even for a GTX 680 or HD7970.

Let's do a "simple and ignorant math" :

i5 3570 TDP is 77W, so round it up to 90W.
Mobo + with 2 sticks RAM lets give it 80W.
He will be using SSD so lets give it 20W. ODD lets give it 15W.
660 Ti lets give it 180W.
Fans (case and heatsink fan) lets give it 50W.

Total : 435W.

Still 165W headroom, and according to your calculation, with those 165W you can choke 13 more fans and make your own case-copter

Also remember that's worst case scenario which means all component at full load, real world usage, for example gaming, I bet he won't be using more than 400W.

And I suggest stop using eXtreme PSU calculator. Try this instead : http://psucalc.net/
From my experience, it's simpler but far more accurate (no wattage "exaggeration").

[itsakjt]

There's no end to better and better products.

[n0tiert]

Originally Posted by okidna

This is funny

Seriously, 600W will be more than enough for an i5 with a single GPU, even for a GTX 680 or HD7970.

Let's do a "simple and ignorant math" :

i5 3570 TDP is 77W, so round it up to 90W.
Mobo + with 2 sticks RAM lets give it 80W.
He will be using SSD so lets give it 20W. ODD lets give it 15W.
660 Ti lets give it 180W.
Fans (case and heatsink fan) lets give it 50W.

Total : 435W.

Still 165W headroom, and according to your calculation, with those 165W you can choke 13 more fans and make your own case-copter

Also remember that's worst case scenario which means all component at full load, real world usage, for example gaming, I bet he won't be using more than 400W.

And I suggest stop using eXtreme PSU calculator. Try this instead : http://psucalc.net/
From my experience, it's simpler but far more accurate (no wattage "exaggeration").

Sorry for non OT again,

lol dude there is no need for using a calc online PSU sheet in my case "We here in Germany" learn that in school so don´t try showing off u experience.... lol they are sad
the calc is "Georg Simon Ohm" rule we learn that in 4th - 5th grade (wait a min woops he was german too lol)

all i can say is that it´s not Futureproof ,

and btw it was my opinion , what he does or do it´s
always up to his money

[n0tiert]

Originally Posted by Jack1n

Most likely because the PSU had already degraded,still even a degraded 600watt should keep up with a single 6970.

it was a 3/4 year old Corsair CX600 changed it into a GS800

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by okidna

Let's do a "simple and ignorant math" :
i5 3570 TDP is 77W, so round it up to 90W.

Maybe you should get your facts right before you start calling this "simple and ignorant math" since you can't even get the numbers correct yourself...

TDP is not power draw. 77w TDP says that the CPU requires 77-watts of thermal dissipation to keep the temperatures on the CPU within spec at stock speeds. It does not mean that the CPU consumes 77-watts of power. In fact the 3570k consumes well over 100 watts of power at stock speeds under full load.

A circuit that converts 100% of its power to heat is called an ideal space heater.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...r,3204-13.html

[Ojee83]

OK, Chill guys please... I don't want to start an argument.
But n0tiert is right with what he says... I will be looking to make this comp as "future proof" as i can by chucking in another gphx card and overclocking my CPU further down the line.
So i probably will go for the 750W.
And i will look into those better coolers, thanks Brandonwh64.
And all you guys, i can't believe the input everyone is giving, I will be digesting it all and implementing it into my build.... Thanks.

[n0tiert]

Originally Posted by Ojee83

OK, Chill guys please... I don't want to start an argument.
But n0tiert is right with what he says... I will be looking to make this comp as "future proof" as i can by chucking in another gphx card and overclocking my CPU further down the line.
So i probably will go for the 750W.
And i will look into those better coolers, thanks Brandonwh64.
And all you guys, i can't believe the input everyone is giving, I will be digesting it all and implementing it into my build.... Thanks.

would be nice to see you & your rig on the project log thread again

[n0tiert]

i apologize my rule failure:

that rule was from James Watt

long time since 4th-5th grade .... lol

[brandonwh64]

Also the rule of not double posting..