AMD Catalyst 13.1 and PCMark7 oddities

cadaveca · Jan 28, 2013, 08:05 PM

So, I'm in the process of doing a big re-bench, since the new WHQL drivers are out. In the midst of testing, I discovered I had some issues with PCMark7, with lower performance noted, so I proceeded to test a couple other systems, and VGAs as well. Unfortunately, I only have a select few VGAs to test.

This is what I found:

Clearly, something is wrong here.

With Catalyst 12.10, everything works fine, and performance is much better. If the card doesn't artifact like this screenshot, then performance is just absurdly low, even in just the first test.

Rather than starting to build yet another system for testing, I figured I'd ask and see if anyone else has noted similar. So, anyone else have any issues with AMD Catalyst 13.1 and PCMark7?

EarthDog · Jan 28, 2013, 08:11 PM

Never tried it..I dont have that program installed on my PC its so wonky in its results (almost as bad as 05!) Have you tried with the 12.11 beta's (which are essential 13.1 non WHQL of course)?

Sasqui · Jan 28, 2013, 08:13 PM

They're just seeing if you're paying attention.

If PCMark7 is free, I'll try it tonight. Have my 7870 using 13.1 right now.

cadaveca · Jan 28, 2013, 08:16 PM

Thanks for the input guys...really just looking to confirm the problem isn't just on my end. If it is just a general bug, that's actually good, I'll skip the 13.1 re-bench and stick with 12.10.

As to the results, EarthDog, I do not seem to have much problems with the bench, but then, I am using the Pro version, not the normal one, and I am not sure that this issue isn't part of the version I use, or whathaveyou.

jboydgolfer · Jan 28, 2013, 08:25 PM

May not be of interest to You, But I installed 13.1 on my Gaming PC which is running HD6950, and I had Some strange artifacts, similar to the image You posted.Also some Strange "glitching" during DayZ game play.All of which were NOT present W/ 12.10.I'll see if My 7970LCS has any issue's with 13.1.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 28, 2013, 08:27 PM

For F#$K sake. All your recent hardware issues now this. You just can't win latley.

erocker · Jan 28, 2013, 08:29 PM

I'll give it a try. I'm using 12.11 beta 11's at the moment. 13.1's were tanking my GPU usage in ArmAII.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

For F#$K sake. All your recent hardware issues now this. You just can't win latley.

Very helpful post. Well done.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 28, 2013, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

I'll give it a try. I'm using 12.11 beta 11's at the moment. 13.1's were tanking my GPU usage in ArmAII.

Very helpful post. Well done.

Sympathy post man. I feel bad for him......you cold indifferent nihilist feline.

erocker · Jan 28, 2013, 08:42 PM

My results are worse. I don't even get a real image, just lines and colors and blips n' stuff.

I require sympathy MailMan, pet me.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 28, 2013, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

My results are worse. I don't even get a real image, just lines and colors and blips n' stuff.

I require sympathy MailMan, pet me.

I cannot believe these are WHQL drivers. I wonder if you both installed them the same way? Maybe they need the new "ATI Cleaner" before you install the new drivers?

Also when you say "I require sympathy MailMan, pet me" I got half a chub.

erocker · Jan 28, 2013, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I cannot believe these are WHQL drivers.

Really? This stuff happens all the time.

Like I mentioned though, I'm using the 12.11 beta 11 drivers. I have issues with nothing. I don't really care about this benchmark, other than helping Dave out.

I'll try 13.1's now.

OnePostWonder · Jan 28, 2013, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I cannot believe these are WHQL drivers. I wonder if you both installed them the same way? Maybe they need the new "ATI Cleaner" before you install the new drivers?

Also when you say "I require sympathy MailMan, pet me" I got half a chub.

ITT: Zoophilia.

erocker · Jan 28, 2013, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

I'll try 13.1's now.

Okay, with these I get video, no distortion, however performance is bad. Clocks seem to go to 925/1375 during this test even though my card is clocked at 1100/1500.

During the DX9 test my clocks actually go to 1100/15500 however, It uses about 50% GPU at most.

The web browsing part failed.

Playing various formats of video and games I have no issues, other than Arma 2 where the GPU usage tanks after about 10 minutes or so.

cadaveca · Jan 28, 2013, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Okay, with these I get video, no distortion, however performance is bad. Clocks seem to go to 925/1375 during this test even though my card is clocked at 1100/1500.

During the DX9 test my clocks actually go to 1100/15500 however, It uses about 50% GPU at most.

The web browsing part failed.

Playing various formats of video and games I have no issues, other than Arma 2 where the GPU usage tanks after about 10 minutes or so.

Ok, I get the exact same, must be drivers then. Thanks very much, erocker!

And sadly, I guess I stick to 12.10 for a couple more months.

Boneface · Jan 28, 2013, 10:07 PM

Im on Win 8, just ran with the 13.2 betas and seem to run fine for me. Although i dont know what a good score it for it lol!

crazyeyesreaper · Jan 28, 2013, 10:16 PM

tested 5850 1GB overclocked on Windows 7 64bit with Catalyst 13.1 WHQL with NO CAPs 0 problems smooth as butter

Sasqui · Jan 28, 2013, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Okay, with these I get video, no distortion, however performance is bad. Clocks seem to go to 925/1375 during this test even though my card is clocked at 1100/1500.

During the DX9 test my clocks actually go to 1100/15500 however, It uses about 50% GPU at most.

The web browsing part failed.

Playing various formats of video and games I have no issues, other than Arma 2 where the GPU usage tanks after about 10 minutes or so.

Pretty much same here, video playback was fine, but with some chop, though GPU usage was low. DX9 test with sprites used max of 65% GPU. Web test showed a window with 3 tabs and did a bunch of repetative clicking, some pages showed.

I only let it do one loop, it started on a second and I cancelled it, then looked for a loop option, which I could not find.

Downloading stuff these days is a bitch... I had to cancel 3 different 7zip download before finding the right one

agent00skid · Jan 29, 2013, 12:15 AM

My laptop and desktop sailed through smoothly. And relative scores was within expectations.

Using 13.1 WHQL with CAPs on Windows 7 64-bit.

Jan 28, 2013, 08:05 PM	#1
cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,921 (4.16/day) Thanks: 4,704 Thanked 5,447 Times in 3,301 Posts System Specs	AMD Catalyst 13.1 and PCMark7 oddities So, I'm in the process of doing a big re-bench, since the new WHQL drivers are out. In the midst of testing, I discovered I had some issues with PCMark7, with lower performance noted, so I proceeded to test a couple other systems, and VGAs as well. Unfortunately, I only have a select few VGAs to test. This is what I found: Clearly, something is wrong here. With Catalyst 12.10, everything works fine, and performance is much better. If the card doesn't artifact like this screenshot, then performance is just absurdly low, even in just the first test. Rather than starting to build yet another system for testing, I figured I'd ask and see if anyone else has noted similar. So, anyone else have any issues with AMD Catalyst 13.1 and PCMark7? Attached Thumbnails __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way.

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EarthDog Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,057 (1.63/day) Thanks: 247 Thanked 353 Times in 307 Posts System Specs	Never tried it..I dont have that program installed on my PC its so wonky in its results (almost as bad as 05!) Have you tried with the 12.11 beta's (which are essential 13.1 non WHQL of course)?

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cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,921 (4.16/day) Thanks: 4,704 Thanked 5,447 Times in 3,301 Posts System Specs	Thanks for the input guys...really just looking to confirm the problem isn't just on my end. If it is just a general bug, that's actually good, I'll skip the 13.1 re-bench and stick with 12.10. As to the results, EarthDog, I do not seem to have much problems with the bench, but then, I am using the Pro version, not the normal one, and I am not sure that this issue isn't part of the version I use, or whathaveyou. __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way.

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