need help picking gpu and processor

2MB · Feb 8, 2013, 11:00 AM

This is my first PC build and I don't know much about hardware, I tried reading many posts here and in other sites but I didn't get a definitive answer to my question
So, I'm on a limited budget ( around 900$ max.) and I need help choosing between

sapphire HD 7770 vapor-x 1GB OC (around 145 $ in my country)
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...n=&lid=1&leg=0

or Sapphire HD 7850 2G OC (around 220 $)
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...n=&lid=1&leg=0

and for cpu

FX 8120 (around 170$)

or Intel i5 3470 (around 200$)

I want to run games on the highest quality and HD movies ( I prefer best Performance/Price ratio)
Any other suggestions are welcomed.

P.S. what is the best mobo to go for and is a PSU 500W sufficient for this ?

Thanks in advance.

AlienIsGOD · Feb 8, 2013, 11:07 AM

7850 and i5 3470 would be the best combo for what you have listed. a 7850 will not run games at the "highest quality" but should provide a good gaming experience. A 7870 or higher is needed at 1080P

Fourstaff · Feb 8, 2013, 11:42 AM

Price of 8320? If its not too much more get that instead. otherwise 3470

BiggieShady · Feb 8, 2013, 12:01 PM

About the PSU, at full load that GPU spends about 200 wats, intel cpu about 80W (FX spends 125 W), the rest adds up to max 70 W (presuming couple of disks) ... with quality 500 W PSU you should be well within the limits.

BTW, try this http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

2MB · Feb 8, 2013, 12:05 PM

8320 is not available in my market , but 8350 is around 220$

BarbaricSoul · Feb 8, 2013, 12:05 PM

If I was to build a $900 computer today, this would be what I'd use-

AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket A...

MSI 990FXA-GD65V2 Desktop Motherboard - AMD 990FX ...

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM...

ASUS GTX660 TI-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatp...

Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver ...

XFX Core Edition PRO550W (P1-550S-XXB9) 550W ATX12...

Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Ca...

Add an OS, whether Windows 7 or 8(your choice) for $99

$854.90 at Newegg.com

What country are you in?

Fourstaff · Feb 8, 2013, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MB

8320 is not available in my market , but 8350 is around 220$

Take a look at this article, match the benchmarks with your usual workloads and decide from there. 8350 is a bit too pricey at $220 imo

Edit: what a farce, I forgot link

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/t...-fx4300-tested

2MB · Feb 8, 2013, 12:22 PM

thanks for the build BarbaricSoul, Ill review the prices in my country for this components
just a question: I heard that MSI mobos are not good compared to gigabyte, asus and asrock, what do you think?
and I'm from Egypt by the way.

2MB · Feb 8, 2013, 12:26 PM

Fourstaff , Can't find a link to the article you mentioned

BarbaricSoul · Feb 8, 2013, 12:27 PM

MSI boards used to be not as good as the others. Totally different now. MSI is making some very good boards these days. Thier socket 1155 boards are some of the best you can get.

2MB · Feb 8, 2013, 12:44 PM

AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket around 225$

MSI 990FXA-GD65V2 Desktop Motherboard - AMD 990FX around 150$

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM around 55$

ASUS GTX660 TI-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB around 340$

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 around 25$

Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Not available in my country

XFX Core Edition PRO550W (P1-550S-XXB9) 550W ATX12 around 72$

Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB around 72$

Total 939$

Well, and also the display screen for around 145$

Fourstaff · Feb 8, 2013, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MB

Fourstaff , Can't find a link to the article you mentioned

Edited

Aquinus · Feb 8, 2013, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarbaricSoul

MSI boards used to be not as good as the others. Totally different now. MSI is making some very good boards these days. Thier socket 1155 boards are some of the best you can get.

I've used three MSI motherboards with the earliest being a skt939 board and they've all been pretty good. They boards never wow'ed me but they always worked well. There was one case where I was stupid and flashed the wrong BIOS to a 975x Platinum Power-Up and they sent a new BIOS chip free of charge or shipping and when that didn't work they RMA'ed the board and I had it back in 2 weeks. So all in all, I've been fairly happy with their motherboards but I've been plenty happy with their support. Unlike ASUS who can make a damn good product but best of luck if you have to do a RMA if/when something goes wrong.

MT Alex · Feb 8, 2013, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MB

AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket around 225$

MSI 990FXA-GD65V2 Desktop Motherboard - AMD 990FX around 150$

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM around 55$

ASUS GTX660 TI-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB around 340$

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 around 25$

Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Not available in my country

XFX Core Edition PRO550W (P1-550S-XXB9) 550W ATX12 around 72$

Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB around 72$

Total 939$

Well, and also the display screen for around 145$

Don't forget you are going to need an operating system, that's more money you have to spend.

xvi · Feb 8, 2013, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT Alex

Don't forget you are going to need an operating system, that's more money you have to spend.

Just out of curiosity, was anyone planning on putting this in a case or just leaving it spread out on a desk?

If you're having budget issues, you could always take one of the components out and buy it later. In this instance, maybe swap the video card out for something basic. That or memory? I've built most of my computers this way. They just sort of evolve over time. Also, I don't know how well this will work in Egypt, but you could check the For Sale threads.

2MB · Feb 8, 2013, 08:16 PM

Ok, so here is what I think is good
Intel I3 3220
Sapphire HD vapor-x 7950 2GB OC
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-D3 motherboard
Seagate 1TB
Corsair vengeance 1*8GB
CoolerMaster 500W PSU
Any Suitable Case
Samsung 23 inches LED

After a year or so I'll upgrade the CPU
Is this a good combination or well the I3 bottleneck it

P.S.I have already given Windows 8 as a gift from the family

Fourstaff · Feb 8, 2013, 08:39 PM

Eh you cant use 990FX motherboard with i3 3220 :eek;

Get FX4300 instead, and overclock it ab it.

Also, 2x4Gb 1866 Mhz is better than 1x8Gb

Symetrick · Feb 9, 2013, 05:53 PM

I would honestly recommend you try grabbing an i5-2500k and a gtx 660. U can get both for around the same price you mentioned in your op price quote.

Feb 8, 2013, 11:00 AM	#1
2MB Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 6 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	need help picking gpu and processor This is my first PC build and I don't know much about hardware, I tried reading many posts here and in other sites but I didn't get a definitive answer to my question So, I'm on a limited budget ( around 900$ max.) and I need help choosing between sapphire HD 7770 vapor-x 1GB OC (around 145 $ in my country) http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...n=&lid=1&leg=0 or Sapphire HD 7850 2G OC (around 220 $) http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...n=&lid=1&leg=0 and for cpu FX 8120 (around 170$) or Intel i5 3470 (around 200$) I want to run games on the highest quality and HD movies ( I prefer best Performance/Price ratio) Any other suggestions are welcomed. P.S. what is the best mobo to go for and is a PSU 500W sufficient for this ? Thanks in advance.

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Feb 8, 2013, 12:05 PM	#6
BarbaricSoul Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeastern Virginia Posts: 3,731 (1.95/day) Thanks: 367 Thanked 1,079 Times in 795 Posts System Specs	If I was to build a $900 computer today, this would be what I'd use- AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket A... MSI 990FXA-GD65V2 Desktop Motherboard - AMD 990FX ... CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM... ASUS GTX660 TI-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatp... Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver ... XFX Core Edition PRO550W (P1-550S-XXB9) 550W ATX12... Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Ca... Add an OS, whether Windows 7 or 8(your choice) for $99 $854.90 at Newegg.com What country are you in? __________________ “Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.” “Amd....definitely a blond female.....not much on the cpu side, but always strutting about showing off her gpus......wow that was bad. I apologize.” -ensabrenoir

Feb 8, 2013, 11:07 AM	#2
AlienIsGOD Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kingston, Ontario Canada Posts: 2,577 (1.48/day) Thanks: 4,291 Thanked 1,084 Times in 617 Posts System Specs	7850 and i5 3470 would be the best combo for what you have listed. a 7850 will not run games at the "highest quality" but should provide a good gaming experience. A 7870 or higher is needed at 1080P

Feb 8, 2013, 11:42 AM	#3
Fourstaff TPU Janitor Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Science Museum, Londinium Posts: 5,955 (4.70/day) Thanks: 261 Thanked 1,457 Times in 1,208 Posts System Specs	Price of 8320? If its not too much more get that instead. otherwise 3470

Feb 8, 2013, 12:01 PM	#4
BiggieShady Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 236 (0.51/day) Thanks: 12 Thanked 65 Times in 54 Posts System Specs	About the PSU, at full load that GPU spends about 200 wats, intel cpu about 80W (FX spends 125 W), the rest adds up to max 70 W (presuming couple of disks) ... with quality 500 W PSU you should be well within the limits. BTW, try this http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

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Feb 8, 2013, 12:22 PM	#8
2MB Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 6 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks for the build BarbaricSoul, Ill review the prices in my country for this components just a question: I heard that MSI mobos are not good compared to gigabyte, asus and asrock, what do you think? and I'm from Egypt by the way.

Feb 8, 2013, 12:26 PM	#9
2MB Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 6 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fourstaff , Can't find a link to the article you mentioned

Feb 8, 2013, 12:27 PM	#10
BarbaricSoul Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeastern Virginia Posts: 3,731 (1.95/day) Thanks: 367 Thanked 1,079 Times in 795 Posts System Specs	MSI boards used to be not as good as the others. Totally different now. MSI is making some very good boards these days. Thier socket 1155 boards are some of the best you can get. __________________ “Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.” “Amd....definitely a blond female.....not much on the cpu side, but always strutting about showing off her gpus......wow that was bad. I apologize.” -ensabrenoir

Feb 8, 2013, 12:44 PM	#11
2MB Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 6 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket around 225$ MSI 990FXA-GD65V2 Desktop Motherboard - AMD 990FX around 150$ CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM around 55$ ASUS GTX660 TI-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB around 340$ COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 around 25$ Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Not available in my country XFX Core Edition PRO550W (P1-550S-XXB9) 550W ATX12 around 72$ Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB around 72$ Total 939$ Well, and also the display screen for around 145$

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Feb 8, 2013, 08:16 PM	#16
2MB Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 6 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok, so here is what I think is good Intel I3 3220 Sapphire HD vapor-x 7950 2GB OC Gigabyte GA-990FXA-D3 motherboard Seagate 1TB Corsair vengeance 1*8GB CoolerMaster 500W PSU Any Suitable Case Samsung 23 inches LED After a year or so I'll upgrade the CPU Is this a good combination or well the I3 bottleneck it P.S.I have already given Windows 8 as a gift from the family

Feb 8, 2013, 08:39 PM	#17
Fourstaff TPU Janitor Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Science Museum, Londinium Posts: 5,955 (4.70/day) Thanks: 261 Thanked 1,457 Times in 1,208 Posts System Specs	Eh you cant use 990FX motherboard with i3 3220 :eek; Get FX4300 instead, and overclock it ab it. Also, 2x4Gb 1866 Mhz is better than 1x8Gb

Feb 9, 2013, 05:53 PM	#18
Symetrick Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: South FLA Posts: 12 (0.12/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts	I would honestly recommend you try grabbing an i5-2500k and a gtx 660. U can get both for around the same price you mentioned in your op price quote.

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