World Community Grid February Team Challenge

[t_ski]

Originally Posted by AnnCore

OK so I'll have 2 cpus working with gpus and 2 cpus working alone and see what that produces.

AnnCore, please fill out your system specs in your profile. Chances are, you can run more that just four WU's.

[TRWOV]

Still HCC seems to be the most profitable since you can finish them very quickly, even with a slow GPU you're looking at >5 points/minute. A WU of FA@H gave me 378 but took 2 hours (3.14 points / minute). Anyway to apply to the challenge you have to turn in CPU results as well.

[Zebeon]

Do we need to do all the tweaks in Ion's WCG Essentials thread?
such as:
MindWeaver's Easy WCG Auto-Report Guide

Sorry for the newb questions. I guess I am confused between WCG and BOINC?

[TRWOV]

BOINC is the general infrastructure. Think of it as DirectX.
WCG is one of the platforms that use said infrastructure. Think of it as the Cryengine 3 engine.
HCC, FA@H, etc. are projects that use the WCG platform. Think of them as games.

As far as I can tell you just need to look into the multiple WU guide.

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by Zebeon

Do we need to do all the tweaks in Ion's WCG Essentials thread?
such as:
MindWeaver's Easy WCG Auto-Report Guide

Sorry for the newb questions. I guess I am confused between WCG and BOINC?

You don't need to. I'd suggest at leat slightly familiarizing yourself with the contents of the thread. I'd suggest Mindweaver's tweak--that way, the work is sent in right away, speeding up the validation process. And certainly do make sure that your computer doesn't automatically suspend itself when not in use.

Originally Posted by TRWOV

BOINC is the general infrastructure. Think of it as DirectX.
WCG is one of the platforms that use said infrastructure. Think of it as the Cryengine 3 engine.
HCC, FA@H, etc. are projects that use the WCG platform. Think of them as games.

Awesome analogy! Thanks!

[TRWOV]

In 7.0.44 the work is sent right away in the moment is finished, isn't that the case in 6.x.xx?

[AnnCore]

Originally Posted by t_ski

AnnCore, please fill out your system specs in your profile. Chances are, you can run more that just four WU's.

t_ski I've added my system specs. All the help inthe world is appreciated.

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by AnnCore

t_ski I've added my system specs. All the help inthe world is appreciated.

Given the setup you have, I think that running two WUs on the HD5850 and then two on the CPU is probably the best setup. Give each GPU WU a full CPU core, I think. You could try assigning them both to a single core, but as each C2QE core does maybe 750 PPD, I don't think it would be a good tradeoff.

[AnnCore]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

Given the setup you have, I think that running two WUs on the HD5850 and then two on the CPU is probably the best setup. Give each GPU WU a full CPU core, I think. You could try assigning them both to a single core, but as each C2QE core does maybe 750 PPD, I don't think it would be a good tradeoff.

Is that 2 WUs for each of the 2 5850s or 1 WU per 5850?

This is what I put in my app_config:

<app_config>
<app>
<name>hcc1</name>
<max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>1</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>

I should change gpu usage to 1 right?

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by AnnCore

Is that 2 WUs for each of the 2 5850s or 1 WU per 5850?

This is what I put in my app_config:

<app_config>
<app>
<name>hcc1</name>
<max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>1</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>

I should change gpu usage to 1 right?

My bad, I didn't see the two cards. Two WUs per GPU is a good way to do things I think. I'd suggest giving each GPU WU .75 of a thread and then running one CPU WU. So your file would be like this:

<app_config> 
	<app> 
		<name>hcc1</name> 
		<max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent> 
		<gpu_versions> 
			<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage> 
			<cpu_usage>.75</cpu_usage> 
		</gpu_versions> 
	</app> 
</app_config>

[AlienIsGOD]

Originally Posted by TRWOV

Anyway to apply to the challenge you have to turn in CPU results as well.

does having GPU with CPU units work? i've got HCC set up to 1 CPU with .25 GPU for 4 WU's total

[xvi]

So, um, why are we collecting hardware stats?

Crunching on a little dual P3 server at work, HP NetServer LPr.

Your Fortune:
Your reasoning powers are good, and you are a fairly good planner.

user@mango:~$ lscpu
Architecture:          i686
CPU(s):                2
Thread(s) per core:    1
Core(s) per socket:    1
CPU socket(s):         2
Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel
CPU family:            6
Model:                 8
Stepping:              3
CPU MHz:               798.635

[AnnCore]

I've enlisted my son's PC.

AMD 1090T
ATI 5850
16 GB memory.

Trying:

<max_concurrent>6</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.175</cpu_usage>

But I am open to suggestions.

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by xvi

So, um, why are we collecting hardware stats?

Crunching on a little dual P3 server at work, HP NetServer LPr.

Your Fortune:
Your reasoning powers are good, and you are a fairly good planner.

user@mango:~$ lscpu
Architecture:          i686
CPU(s):                2
Thread(s) per core:    1
Core(s) per socket:    1
CPU socket(s):         2
Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel
CPU family:            6
Model:                 8
Stepping:              3
CPU MHz:               798.635

That must be a speed-demon!

Originally Posted by AnnCore

I've enlisted my son's PC.

AMD 1090T
ATI 5850
16 GB memory.

Trying:

<max_concurrent>6</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.175</cpu_usage>

But I am open to suggestions.

I would argue that dedicating one sixth of a core to each GPU WU doesn't make very much sense. I'd say run two GPU WUs each with one CPU core and then leave the other four cores for CPU tasks.

[Norton]

Originally Posted by AnnCore

I've enlisted my son's PC.

AMD 1090T
ATI 5850
16 GB memory.

Trying:

<max_concurrent>6</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.175</cpu_usage>

But I am open to suggestions.

Change cpu to 1.0 and you will do 4 cpu and 2 gpu (@ 0.5 gpu + 1cpu each)

[AnnCore]

Originally Posted by Norton

Change cpu to 1.0 and you will do 4 cpu and 2 gpu (@ 0.5 gpu + 1cpu each)

That has the GPU at 97% load which is great but can I get the cpu cores to go higher?

I have as low as 40% on one core and 2 cores that do peak at 100% intermittently.

I'd like to have them all at around 90% if possible.

[memmaker]

I'm in!

I've been crunching occasionally without a team, but in some way I realized that techpowerup have very nice hardware related content and people. I'm not sure if my system could/would hit the 25k score, but anyway, I will be crunching for your team for a while
The CPU is OK, but in my zone the kWh is very expensive, so I will crunch between 12 to 18 hours per day.

Cheers to all of you!

Oh, and sorry about my tv/game-learnt English

[[Ion]]

Your English is just fine

Your PhII X6 should easily do 4k PPD (running 24/7) which means that running 12-18 hours a day you should get 2-3k PPD, which is more than enough for the 25k required
Is this your WCG profile?

Added to the list

[Norton]

Originally Posted by AnnCore

That has the GPU at 97% load which is great but can I get the cpu cores to go higher?

I have as low as 40% on one core and 2 cores that do peak at 100% intermittently.

I'd like to have them all at around 90% if possible.

There are many items affecting the cpu loading (including the work unit itself). Turning off all Cool n Quiet and various other power saving features is typically done,

Please list the full specs for the rig (cpu/mobo/cpu cooler/ram/hard drive/case/operating system, etc...) We don't want you to overheat/overload the rig

[memmaker]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

Your English is just fine

Your PhII X6 should easily do 4k PPD (running 24/7) which means that running 12-18 hours a day you should get 2-3k PPD, which is more than enough for the 25k required
Is this your WCG profile?

Added to the list

Yes, it is my WCG Profile
Thanks!

[xvi]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

Your PhII X6 should easily do 4k PPD (running 24/7) which means that running 12-18 hours a day you should get 2-3k PPD, which is more than enough for the 25k required

I have a similar Phenom II on sig rig, but I'm not convinced I'm getting ANYWHERE near this. Is there an easy way to check? The process of converting to a cruncher from a folder is a little more difficult than I thought.

I've been crunching pretty steady since.. erm.. about 24 hours, give or take.

Edit: Whoops! Just realized sig rig isn't updated. Just a second.

[mstenholm]

Originally Posted by TRWOV

In 7.0.44 the work is sent right away in the moment is finished, isn't that the case in 6.x.xx?

Maybe it works for some. I have one rig that does that and another that doesn't.

[AnnCore]

Originally Posted by Norton

There are many items affecting the cpu loading (including the work unit itself). Turning off all Cool n Quiet and various other power saving features is typically done,

Please list the full specs for the rig (cpu/mobo/cpu cooler/ram/hard drive/case/operating system, etc...) We don't want you to overheat/overload the rig

Thanks!

Here's my son's rig:

cpu: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T
mobo: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5
cpu-cooler: Coolermaster Seidon 120M cpu watercooling unit
gpu: ATI 5850 stock speed with an Artic Cooling Twin Turbo Pro
ram: 16 GB G.Skill ARES 2133MHz
ssd: Samsung 840 Pro 128 GB
case: Lian
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

I monitor the temps with CPUID Monitor and have around 39°C.

The GPU is at 97% load and temperature @50°.

[memmaker]

Originally Posted by xvi

I have a similar Phenom II on sig rig, but I'm not convinced I'm getting ANYWHERE near this. Is there an easy way to check? The process of converting to a cruncher from a folder is a little more difficult than I thought.

I've been crunching pretty steady since.. erm.. about 24 hours, give or take.

Edit: Whoops! Just realized sig rig isn't updated. Just a second.

Mhhh... In my experience, I recommend you have some patience, the WUs in WCG have a little "delay" until you get the score points (I don't know why). Just wait some hours to appreciate your average PPD

[BarbaricSoul]

Better late than never, count me in if it isn't too late. I'm already crunching for team TPU