Hardware upgrade opinions

Thecoolman5 · Feb 10, 2013, 02:02 AM

Hi, I am looking for a new graphics card or processor that would increase my computers speed mainly for games. I currently have an Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS with an Intel Core2 CPU, 1.87 GHz (clocked at 3.33 GHz). I have 4 gigabytes of ram and am running windows 7 64-bit. Any ideas?

theoneandonlymrk · Feb 10, 2013, 02:31 AM

Too vague what games and how much money

drdeathx · Feb 10, 2013, 02:41 AM

Actually, it is not vague. the coolman, your CPU will be a bottleneck IMO with anything a lot better. You may entertain a 7770 radeon but I would not push anything higher and at that, your CPU will probably stilll bottleneck with a 7770. Your probably best staying with what you have.

Jetster · Feb 10, 2013, 02:47 AM

Your going to run into a cost vs performance issue. Or upgrade vs new system. If you upgrade to a point that money would be better spent on a new system. That said a 5750, 6770, 7770 would help and you could move it to a better system later. Would give you low/Med graphics in newer games. Any more and your wasting money.

They do have PSU requirements also of a 6 pin and 450w

The good news is the 5770 is 10X the card the 8400gs is

$85 after rebate

XFX HD-677X-ZAF4 Radeon HD 6770 Video Card - Neweg...

HIS H775FS2G iCooler Radeon HD 7750 Video Card - N...

[Ion] · Feb 10, 2013, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

Actually, it is not vague. the coolman, your CPU will be a bottleneck IMO with anything a lot better. You may entertain a 7770 radeon but I would not push anything higher and at that, your CPU will probably stilll bottleneck with a 7770. Your probably best staying with what you have.

Not true. The 8400GS is basically the worst DirectX 10 card ever made. It has 8 shaders. Even something like a $35 8800GT would blow it away. A HD7770 would be heaven. Yes, with an i5 it would be faster, but still, a considerably faster GPU would be the single greatest thing he could do for that system (unless he's running on an old 3600RPM HDD)

Thecoolman5 · Feb 10, 2013, 03:36 AM

Considering what [ION] said, I have owned my video card for countless years now and it's starting to fall apart. I found a good video card that was somewhat in my price range about a month ago. I don't really care about high quality graphics. When I get a new game, the main thing I want is for the game to run without lag. I got Need for Speed The Run 2 years ago for Christmas and my computer can't run it without lagging. However, got TestDrive Unlimited 2 for Christmas last year. Test Drive Unlimited 2 runs without serious lag when the quality is at its lowest. However, Need for Speed The Run plays with more lag than I can handle with the quality at it's lowest. The games both require about the same video cards and processors.

[Ion] · Feb 10, 2013, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thecoolman5

Considering what [ION] said, I have owned my video card for countless years now and it's starting to fall apart. I found a good video card that was somewhat in my price range about a month ago. I don't really care about high quality graphics. When I get a new game, the main thing I want is for the game to run without lag. I got Need for Speed The Run 2 years ago for Christmas and my computer can't run it without lagging. However, got TestDrive Unlimited 2 for Christmas last year. Test Drive Unlimited 2 runs without serious lag when the quality is at its lowest. However, Need for Speed The Run plays with more lag than I can handle with the quality at it's lowest. The games both require about the same video cards and processors.

How much do you have to spend on an upgrade? And what are your other system specifications?

Thecoolman5 · Feb 10, 2013, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by [Ion]

How much do you have to spend on an upgrade? And what are your other system specifications?

I'm not really worried about money right now. The most money I am willing to save up and spend is propably 200 dollars. I have about 130 Gigs of hard drive space left. My computer is low profile. And I have a 2 terabyte WD external hard drive. One other thing, I don't really care how fast the game starts up. As long as the game actually starts and runs without lag, I'm perfectly fine.

Altered · Feb 10, 2013, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Thecoolman5

I'm not really worried about money right now. The most money I am willing to save up and spend is propably 200 dollars. I have about 130 Gigs of hard drive space left. My computer is low profile. And I have a 2 terabyte WD external hard drive. One other thing, I don't really care how fast the game starts up. As long as the game actually starts and runs without lag, I'm perfectly fine.

A couple a things.
1. You need to go to your User CP and fill in your system specs.
2. What games are you intending to play with it? Some are more CPU dependent than VGA.
3. Take a look in your case and do some measuring. Since you mentioned " My computer is low profile." Make sure how much room you have for a card. Some cannot take a long card and some are limited to a single slot card.

TRWOV · Feb 10, 2013, 05:40 AM

HD7750 LP, single slot: PowerColor AX7750 1GBD5-HL Radeon HD 7750 Video Ca...
HD7750 LP, double slot: HIS H775FN1G Radeon HD 7750 Video Card - Newegg.co...

What's your motherboard model? I assume you have a Core 2 Duo E6300, right? If you board doesn't support FSB1333 CPUs then get an used Q6600 or Q6700 and overclock it as much as you can. On a good day you can get a Q6600 for 80 on ebay. Take in mind that a Core 2 Duo heatsink won't be enough for a Quad but since you OCed it to 3.3Ghz I'd guess you have an aftermarket heatsink already.

erocker · Feb 10, 2013, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TRWOV

HD7750 LP, single slot: PowerColor AX7750 1GBD5-HL Radeon HD 7750 Video Ca...
HD7750 LP, double slot: HIS H775FN1G Radeon HD 7750 Video Card - Newegg.co...

What's your motherboard model? I assume you have a Core 2 Duo E6300, right? If you board doesn't support FSB1333 CPUs then get an used Q6600 or Q6700 and overclock it as much as you can. On a good day you can get a Q6600 for 80 on ebay. Take in mind that a Core 2 Duo heatsink won't be enough for a Quad but since you OCed it to 3.3Ghz I'd guess you have an aftermarket heatsink already.

One of those would be perfect and would allow the games listed to be run lag free with some settings adjustments.

DarkOCean · Feb 10, 2013, 05:55 AM

this 768 cores gtx 650ti for $130/$110 after mir looks like a good deal and highest card i would get for that system.
PNY VCGGTX650T1XPB GeForce GTX 650 Ti Video Card -...

Jetster · Feb 10, 2013, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkOCean

this 768 cores gtx 650ti for $130/$110 after mir looks like a good deal and highest card i would get for that system.
PNY VCGGTX650T1XPB GeForce GTX 650 Ti Video Card -...

He needs a low profile card

It would have been nice if he mentioned this in the beginnig as well as all his specs including the PSU make and model

DarkOCean · Feb 10, 2013, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetster

He needs a low profile card

It would have been nice if he mentioned this in the beginnig as well as all his specs including the PSU make and model

Then the best card he can get is a low profile gddr5 7750, too bad that 650ti is so much better for the money.

Jetster · Feb 10, 2013, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkOCean

Then the best card he can get is a low profile gddr5 7750, too bad that 650ti is so much better for the money.

http://www.afox-corp.com/en/products....asp?proid=209

DarkOCean · Feb 10, 2013, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetster

http://www.afox-corp.com/en/products....asp?proid=209

i know about that but nowhere to find it for sale.

Geofrancis · Feb 10, 2013, 08:32 AM

im sure there was a low profile 8800gt made you might find one on ebay.

TRWOV · Feb 10, 2013, 12:43 PM

Just looked at eBay and it seems that the lower average price for the Q6600 is about $65 nowadays. Just make sure to get a SLACR core, those overclock better. The Q6700 is sitting around $85 if that interests you.

Don't forget to check if your PSU can power them.

Jetster · Feb 10, 2013, 02:43 PM

I could have bought a Intel Core2 Extreme Q6800 for $60 last week. I passed on it

Thecoolman5 · Feb 11, 2013, 02:26 AM

Ok. Well, I did a video card speed comparison online with my 8400gs and the 8800GT. The 8800 is amazingly faster. I appreciate all of your help with my slow system. I'll look up all of these video cards you guys recommended and eventually buy one. I don't think I'll worry about my CPU right now. I am pretty sure that my CPU isn't the main reason my computer is slow with some games. Anyways, thanks for the help!

TRWOV · Feb 11, 2013, 02:34 AM

If you're running >2 year old games then I guess you're fine with your C2D. Still if you see a Quad for cheap you might want to snatch one up although I don't know if racing games benefit much from a Quad.

Enjoy your card

Thecoolman5 · Feb 11, 2013, 02:45 AM

Yeah, if I ever find a cheap motherboard with quad processors, ill think about buying it. I mainly prefer to play racing games but I currently own CoD MW2 and World of Tanks. Those run without serious lag. But they both have problems with the in-game vegetation.

Geofrancis · Feb 11, 2013, 08:45 AM

I have a pile of those 8400gs cards from computers I have upgraded for people that thought they were buying a gaming machine because the graphics card has 1gb turbo cache memory not realising it only had 256mb and is the slowest dx10 card in existence.

If you are upgrading to a full size case the best used cards for the cash are either a 8800gt or HD4850 512mb cards you will usually get them on eBay for under £35 and can still play any modern game with medium/high settings

Just make sure you don't get one of
The 8800gt Eco cards I have seen them neutered with a 128bit memory interface instead of 256bit and slow ddr2 instead of GDDR3 it ends up performing slower than a 9600gt

Thecoolman5 · Feb 12, 2013, 11:07 PM

I am now deciding to buy the Nvidia GeForce GT 430 because its in my price range and its better than the one I currently have. Opinions?

Jetster · Feb 12, 2013, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Thecoolman5

I am now deciding to buy the Nvidia GeForce GT 430 because its in my price range and its better than the one I currently have. Opinions?

You will be disappointed. The 430 is not gaming card. Buy a used Nvidia 260, 280, 460.

Edit: i keep forgetting you need a low profile. Find the money for the 7750 low profile

How about this SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Expr... $70

Feb 10, 2013, 02:02 AM	#1
Thecoolman5 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: In the state of Utah. Posts: 15 (0.10/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hardware upgrade opinions Hi, I am looking for a new graphics card or processor that would increase my computers speed mainly for games. I currently have an Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS with an Intel Core2 CPU, 1.87 GHz (clocked at 3.33 GHz). I have 4 gigabytes of ram and am running windows 7 64-bit. Any ideas?

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Feb 10, 2013, 02:47 AM	#4
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,869 (2.35/day) Thanks: 931 Thanked 861 Times in 630 Posts System Specs	Your going to run into a cost vs performance issue. Or upgrade vs new system. If you upgrade to a point that money would be better spent on a new system. That said a 5750, 6770, 7770 would help and you could move it to a better system later. Would give you low/Med graphics in newer games. Any more and your wasting money. They do have PSU requirements also of a 6 pin and 450w The good news is the 5770 is 10X the card the 8400gs is $85 after rebate XFX HD-677X-ZAF4 Radeon HD 6770 Video Card - Neweg... HIS H775FS2G iCooler Radeon HD 7750 Video Card - N... Last edited by Jetster; Feb 10, 2013 at 02:55 AM.

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Feb 10, 2013, 02:31 AM	#2
theoneandonlymrk Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: republic of mancunia UK Posts: 2,205 (1.89/day) Thanks: 845 Thanked 363 Times in 303 Posts System Specs	Too vague what games and how much money

Feb 10, 2013, 02:41 AM	#3
drdeathx Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 1,461 (1.00/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 324 Times in 264 Posts System Specs	Actually, it is not vague. the coolman, your CPU will be a bottleneck IMO with anything a lot better. You may entertain a 7770 radeon but I would not push anything higher and at that, your CPU will probably stilll bottleneck with a 7770. Your probably best staying with what you have.

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Feb 10, 2013, 03:36 AM	#6
Thecoolman5 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: In the state of Utah. Posts: 15 (0.10/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My video card is the problem Considering what [ION] said, I have owned my video card for countless years now and it's starting to fall apart. I found a good video card that was somewhat in my price range about a month ago. I don't really care about high quality graphics. When I get a new game, the main thing I want is for the game to run without lag. I got Need for Speed The Run 2 years ago for Christmas and my computer can't run it without lagging. However, got TestDrive Unlimited 2 for Christmas last year. Test Drive Unlimited 2 runs without serious lag when the quality is at its lowest. However, Need for Speed The Run plays with more lag than I can handle with the quality at it's lowest. The games both require about the same video cards and processors.

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Feb 10, 2013, 05:40 AM	#10
TRWOV Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Mexico Posts: 2,049 (3.16/day) Thanks: 790 Thanked 1,054 Times in 549 Posts System Specs	HD7750 LP, single slot: PowerColor AX7750 1GBD5-HL Radeon HD 7750 Video Ca... HD7750 LP, double slot: HIS H775FN1G Radeon HD 7750 Video Card - Newegg.co... What's your motherboard model? I assume you have a Core 2 Duo E6300, right? If you board doesn't support FSB1333 CPUs then get an used Q6600 or Q6700 and overclock it as much as you can. On a good day you can get a Q6600 for 80 on ebay. Take in mind that a Core 2 Duo heatsink won't be enough for a Quad but since you OCed it to 3.3Ghz I'd guess you have an aftermarket heatsink already. __________________ My other rigs: OCTANUX - Conroe865PE - QX6800 - 4GB OCZ Platinum EL - HIS HD4670 AGP - SB Audigy 2 ZS - BFG PPU phenomenal - AM2NF3-VSTA - 965BE - 8GB OCZ Platinum LV - HIS HD3850 AGP - SB X-Fi - Asus PPU - WIP Green Tea - 939A8X-M - FX60 - 4GB OCZ Platinum EL - 7950GT AGP Re-build - CT-6VTA2 - PIII 600E - 384MB PC133 - Voodoo 5500 AGP - SB16 ISA BLUELINE - H61M-GE - PDC G645 - 8GB DDR3-1333 - Powercolor HD7750 - 2xTV Wonder 650

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Feb 10, 2013, 05:55 AM	#12
DarkOCean Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: on top of that big mountain on mars(e Eu) Posts: 1,418 (0.90/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 272 Times in 234 Posts System Specs	this 768 cores gtx 650ti for $130/$110 after mir looks like a good deal and highest card i would get for that system. PNY VCGGTX650T1XPB GeForce GTX 650 Ti Video Card -... __________________

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Feb 10, 2013, 08:32 AM	#17
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Feb 10, 2013, 12:43 PM	#18
TRWOV Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Mexico Posts: 2,049 (3.16/day) Thanks: 790 Thanked 1,054 Times in 549 Posts System Specs	Just looked at eBay and it seems that the lower average price for the Q6600 is about $65 nowadays. Just make sure to get a SLACR core, those overclock better. The Q6700 is sitting around $85 if that interests you. Don't forget to check if your PSU can power them. __________________ My other rigs: OCTANUX - Conroe865PE - QX6800 - 4GB OCZ Platinum EL - HIS HD4670 AGP - SB Audigy 2 ZS - BFG PPU phenomenal - AM2NF3-VSTA - 965BE - 8GB OCZ Platinum LV - HIS HD3850 AGP - SB X-Fi - Asus PPU - WIP Green Tea - 939A8X-M - FX60 - 4GB OCZ Platinum EL - 7950GT AGP Re-build - CT-6VTA2 - PIII 600E - 384MB PC133 - Voodoo 5500 AGP - SB16 ISA BLUELINE - H61M-GE - PDC G645 - 8GB DDR3-1333 - Powercolor HD7750 - 2xTV Wonder 650

Feb 10, 2013, 02:43 PM	#19
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,869 (2.35/day) Thanks: 931 Thanked 861 Times in 630 Posts System Specs	I could have bought a Intel Core2 Extreme Q6800 for $60 last week. I passed on it

Feb 11, 2013, 02:26 AM	#20
Thecoolman5 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: In the state of Utah. Posts: 15 (0.10/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok. Well, I did a video card speed comparison online with my 8400gs and the 8800GT. The 8800 is amazingly faster. I appreciate all of your help with my slow system. I'll look up all of these video cards you guys recommended and eventually buy one. I don't think I'll worry about my CPU right now. I am pretty sure that my CPU isn't the main reason my computer is slow with some games. Anyways, thanks for the help!

Feb 11, 2013, 02:34 AM	#21
TRWOV Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Mexico Posts: 2,049 (3.16/day) Thanks: 790 Thanked 1,054 Times in 549 Posts System Specs	If you're running >2 year old games then I guess you're fine with your C2D. Still if you see a Quad for cheap you might want to snatch one up although I don't know if racing games benefit much from a Quad. Enjoy your card __________________ My other rigs: OCTANUX - Conroe865PE - QX6800 - 4GB OCZ Platinum EL - HIS HD4670 AGP - SB Audigy 2 ZS - BFG PPU phenomenal - AM2NF3-VSTA - 965BE - 8GB OCZ Platinum LV - HIS HD3850 AGP - SB X-Fi - Asus PPU - WIP Green Tea - 939A8X-M - FX60 - 4GB OCZ Platinum EL - 7950GT AGP Re-build - CT-6VTA2 - PIII 600E - 384MB PC133 - Voodoo 5500 AGP - SB16 ISA BLUELINE - H61M-GE - PDC G645 - 8GB DDR3-1333 - Powercolor HD7750 - 2xTV Wonder 650

Feb 11, 2013, 02:45 AM	#22
Thecoolman5 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: In the state of Utah. Posts: 15 (0.10/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah, if I ever find a cheap motherboard with quad processors, ill think about buying it. I mainly prefer to play racing games but I currently own CoD MW2 and World of Tanks. Those run without serious lag. But they both have problems with the in-game vegetation.

Feb 11, 2013, 08:45 AM	#23
Geofrancis Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SCOTLAND! Posts: 919 (0.60/day) Thanks: 91 Thanked 137 Times in 106 Posts System Specs	I have a pile of those 8400gs cards from computers I have upgraded for people that thought they were buying a gaming machine because the graphics card has 1gb turbo cache memory not realising it only had 256mb and is the slowest dx10 card in existence. If you are upgrading to a full size case the best used cards for the cash are either a 8800gt or HD4850 512mb cards you will usually get them on eBay for under £35 and can still play any modern game with medium/high settings Just make sure you don't get one of The 8800gt Eco cards I have seen them neutered with a 128bit memory interface instead of 256bit and slow ddr2 instead of GDDR3 it ends up performing slower than a 9600gt __________________ machine XI Phenom II 965 Black @3.8ghz, 8Gb XMS3 1600, Asus M4A88TD-M EVO/USB3, HD5970, 128gb sandisk SSD, mcubed t-balancer HP EliteBook 2530p SL9400 Core 2 Duo ULV @ 0.9v, 4Gb ddr2, 80Gb Intel X-18m G2, 64Gb express card SSD, Ubiquiti SR71-E 400mw wifi, 21mb HSPA+ ESXI Server Phenom II 1155T, MSI 890FXA-GD70, 12Gb ddr3, IBM M1015 sas, Dell sas 6i, 10 drive 8tb UNRAID array. Old Builds :watercooled matx rig\|Water Cooled ITX rig \|EeePC 701 7" netbook \| ITX Gaming raid build Last edited by Geofrancis; Feb 11, 2013 at 08:51 AM.

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Thecoolman5 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: In the state of Utah. Posts: 15 (0.10/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am now deciding to buy the Nvidia GeForce GT 430 because its in my price range and its better than the one I currently have. Opinions?

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