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[Easy Rhino]

lol at all of the tpuers talking about "wasting" money. please, most of you spend WAY too much money on your rigs just so you can play video games. give me a break.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

lol at all of the tpuers talking about "wasting" money. please, most of you spend WAY too much money on your rigs just so you can play video games. give me a break.

Yeah to play games.....games you CAN'T PLAY on a Mac. Most buy a Mac to post on facebook.

[Depth]

Options are:

1) Spend a shitload of money to play games on max settings, browse youtube/facebook, twitter etc. Buy components as they release to improve computer or replace faulty components

2) Spend a shitload of money to browse youtube/facebook, twitter etc. Spend another shitload of money for a component upgrade or mail it somewhere for 1 month if anything fails

3) Embrace a religion and go on TPU telling everyone how great option 2 is, while following option 2

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Yeah to play games.....games you CAN'T PLAY on a Mac. Most buy a Mac to post on facebook.

Humbly disagree, there are quite alot of Mac gamers I know. No they don't play all games out there, they know what games they will be playing before settling for Mac. Or Bootcamp.

[Depth]

I'd like to see this.

Name a AAA game that runs on Mac.

Or are you saying that because I want to casually play Bejeweled, I should opt for a Mac?

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Humbly disagree, there are quite alot of Mac gamers I know. No they don't play all games out there, they know what games they will be playing before settling for Mac. Or Bootcamp.

Why run bootcamp when you can just buy a PC?

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Yeah to play games.....games you CAN'T PLAY on a Mac. Most buy a Mac to post on facebook.

why is spending $2000 to play console ports at 200 FPS of higher dollar value than spending $2000 to browse the web ? at some point people need to grow up and realize every individual has their own reason for choosing the computer that they buy and they aren't fanbois for doing it.

[Kantastic]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Then you have never used a high end Levono.

Funny you mention, my cousin's boyfriend ordered a ThinkPad X1 Carbon with all the bells and whistles over a month ago. It arrived last Monday and half the keyboard wasn't registering. The trackpad was also "glitchy" as well, but from someone who came from a Macbook Pro, I'm willing to bet it was working just fine and that the glitches he mentioned were just inferior drivers. Solution? Ship it back and wait another few weeks for a replacement.

Edit:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Why run bootcamp when you can just buy a PC?

Because one would still benefit from both the unrivaled Apple customer support and product build quality.

[jihadjoe]

I'm guessing it will come with dual 8-core IVB-EPs and a GK110 based Quadro.
Should be interesting!

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

why is spending $2000 to play console ports at 200 FPS of higher dollar value than spending $2000 to browse the web ? at some point people need to grow up and realize every individual has their own reason for choosing the computer that they buy and they aren't fanbois for doing it.

If you spend $2000 dollars for 200FPS in games you don't know what you are doing. Apple offers ZERO value for average user and ZERO value for a gamer. They have become all status. The days of the PowerPC are over sir. They day they went Intel they become irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Kantastic

Funny you mention, my cousin's boyfriend ordered a ThinkPad X1 Carbon with all the bells and whistles over a month ago. It arrived last Monday and half the keyboard wasn't registering. The trackpad was also "glitchy" as well, but from someone who came from a Macbook Pro, I'm willing to bet it was working just fine and that the glitches he mentioned were just inferior drivers. Solution? Ship it back and wait another few weeks for a replacement.

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Because one would still benefit from both the unrivaled Apple customer support and product build quality.

Ive had THREE iMacs die on me in three years? Your point?

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

They day they went Intel they become irrelevant.

the day they went intel is the day they started to become the richest corporation in the world. remind me to never go into business with you

[Depth]

Originally Posted by Kantastic

Because one would still benefit from both the unrivaled Apple customer support and product build quality.

Doesn't third party software violate the EULA?

[xenocide]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

the day they went intel is the day they started to become the richest corporation in the world. remind me to never go into business with you

They have only become the richest because of devices such as the iPod and iPhone. If you look at their computer revenue it is still incredibly low.

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by xenocide

They have only become the richest because of devices such as the iPod and iPhone. If you look at their computer revenue it is still incredibly low.

This. The desktop market is losing steam pretty bad since most everyday tasks can be done on a tablet or a laptop, a lot of people don't want to dedicate the space or money or having a desktop. I disagree with this but I'm also a programmer/system admin, I spend more time in front of a computer than I do sleeping so enjoying the machine I use is a must. Where having to enjoy your machine isn't different, the reason for why the average consumer wants a computer and why I want a computer are two very different things. So we (members of TPU and those who enjoy towers and upgrading them,) are a small niche and it's getting even smaller.

However I always see there being a use for workstations, I never see them going away but I do see them becoming less and less common.

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

lol at all of the tpuers talking about "wasting" money. please, most of you spend WAY too much money on your rigs just so you can play video games. give me a break.

I spent a lot on my SB-E rig because I had not upgraded my rig in 3 years and I had particular things I wanted in my upgraded rig, something 1155 couldn't offer (VT-d + the ability to overclock, and 8-dimm slots is nice when 16Gb in 4 dimms isn't enough anymore). I suspect I won't be touching this machine for at least that long as well (except maybe a new monitor because one of mine appears to be failing but never seems to actually fail). At this point I really only play SC2 and Minecraft and even Minecraft I haven't played in a while, but gaming is one of the things I least do with this machine, not because I don't want to but because I'm usually using it to do something else.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Why run bootcamp when you can just buy a PC?

Why not get both? After all, TPU's mantra is "when in doubt get all"

Do I need 3570K? not really, no, but just in case. Do I need 7970? not really at 1080p, but just in case etc.

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Why not get both? After all, TPU's mantra is "when in doubt get all"

Do I need 3570K? not really, no, but just in case. Do I need 7970? not really at 1080p, but just in case etc.

...and when money grows on trees, I will become a tree farmer.

[Tatty_One]

I always get entertained when reading mac related threads..... thank you all once again for your contributions in brightening up what would otherwise be a wet and dreary Sunday Morning..... on topic....... someone works hard.... 30..... 40...... 50 hours per week, saves up to buy some hardware........ takes them a year or two...... and then they get criticised for making their own choice in their purchase? Really, has freedom of choice completely left our doorsteps

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

someone works hard.... 30..... 40...... 50 hours per week, saves up to buy some hardware........ takes them a year or two...... and then they get criticised for making their own choice in their purchase? Really, has freedom of choice completely left our doorsteps

My little nephew whose 7 or 8 wants a Macbook or Apple Mac, Hes doesnt know why he wants one but all he see's are well marketed ads on TV and billboards advertising it and think he wants one because it looks cool - He downloaded some software onto his laptop that mods the W7 Ui to look like an apple macs. He installed so much junk on it trying to make it into apple mac that in the end it was just totally unusable and there were a shit load of problems with it,

you would think he learnt his lesson, but no... After he trashed his own laptop he proceeded to do the same thing to his family's PC which isnt exactly the most well specced machine in the world then complains to me about it running so slow...

Its not the first time ive had to bring both laptop and PC back to mine to have everything reinstalled and configured from the ground up. but as long as he knows that i'll keep taking away and fixing it then he'll keep breaking it...

So.... I fixed the issue for good by charging my uncle (his dad) a fee to fix the computers because he dont know shit about computers and nor does his son. I didnt want to do this but Ive already warned my nephew about installing all that crap and he just doesnt listen.


Macs poison the minds of the younger generation.

Even if i was to give my nephew one for his birthday or christmas, I know for a fact that the little runt wont know how to use it and will go back to his own Win7 laptop once he finds out that not all software is compatible with Macs.


So for that reason, People will bash other people for their decisions. Also this forum is quite anti-Apple so that doesnt help either.


People that build their own rigs understand the meaning of value and performance while others that dont and dont care to learn and could care less about value and what their hard earned cash really gets spent on.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by FreedomEclipse

My little nephew whose 7 or 8 wants a Macbook or Apple Mac, Hes doesnt know why he wants one but all he see's are well marketed ads on TV and billboards advertising it and think he wants one because it looks cool - He downloaded some software onto his laptop that mods the W7 Ui to look like an apple macs. He installed so much junk on it trying to make it into apple mac that in the end it was just totally unusable and there were a shit load of problems with it,

you would think he learnt his lesson, but no... After he trashed his own laptop he proceeded to do the same thing to his family's PC which isnt exactly the most well specced machine in the world then complains to me about it running so slow...

Its not the first time ive had to bring both laptop and PC back to mine to have everything reinstalled and configured from the ground up. but as long as he knows that i'll keep taking away and fixing it then he'll keep breaking it...

So.... I fixed the issue for good by charging my uncle (his dad) a fee to fix the computers because he dont know shit about computers and nor does his son. I didnt want to do this but Ive already warned my nephew about installing all that crap and he just doesnt listen.


Macs poison the minds of the younger generation.

Even if i was to give my nephew one for his birthday or christmas, I know for a fact that the little runt wont know how to use it and will go back to his own Win7 laptop once he finds out that not all software is compatible with Macs.


So for that reason, People will bash other people for their decisions. Also this forum is quite anti-Apple so that doesnt help either.


People that build their own rigs understand the meaning of value and performance while others that dont and dont care to learn and could care less about value and what their hard earned cash really gets spent on.

Retards will always be retards, no matter what circumstances. If there is no Apple do you think he will just let the PC sit as is without installing all that junk? Yes this forum is quite anti Apple because its much easier to "diss the odd one out". I am willing to bet an arm and a leg that most of the people here have never bothered to spend some time with Mac OS.

[BarbaricSoul]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

I am willing to bet an arm and a leg that most of the people here have never bothered to spend some time with Mac OS.

Tried, too damn expensive compared to a PC. I'd love to try the current MAC OS, but I'm not willing to spend $2000+ to do so.

[ensabrenoir]

I think the biggest prob with apple.....isnt apple but the few elitist jerks (that we all seem to know) that trumpet apples absolute superiority and infallibility or use it as a status symbol. Will prob get one just to see what all the fuss is about. Do like their build / presentation though....but it all comes down to the software....

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by BarbaricSoul

Tried, too damn expensive compared to a PC. I'd love to try the current MAC OS, but I'm not willing to spend $2000+ to do so.

You don't need to own one, just borrow it off someone for a few hours when you visit them etc.

[BarbaricSoul]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

You don't need to own one, just borrow it off someone for a few hours when you visit them etc.

Again, too damn expensive, all my friends feel the same as I do, so they bought PCs also.

[Tatty_One]

Originally Posted by FreedomEclipse

My little nephew whose 7 or 8 wants a Macbook or Apple Mac, Hes doesnt know why he wants one but all he see's are well marketed ads on TV and billboards advertising it and think he wants one because it looks cool - He downloaded some software onto his laptop that mods the W7 Ui to look like an apple macs. He installed so much junk on it trying to make it into apple mac that in the end it was just totally unusable and there were a shit load of problems with it,

you would think he learnt his lesson, but no... After he trashed his own laptop he proceeded to do the same thing to his family's PC which isnt exactly the most well specced machine in the world then complains to me about it running so slow...

Its not the first time ive had to bring both laptop and PC back to mine to have everything reinstalled and configured from the ground up. but as long as he knows that i'll keep taking away and fixing it then he'll keep breaking it...

So.... I fixed the issue for good by charging my uncle (his dad) a fee to fix the computers because he dont know shit about computers and nor does his son. I didnt want to do this but Ive already warned my nephew about installing all that crap and he just doesnt listen.


Macs poison the minds of the younger generation.

Even if i was to give my nephew one for his birthday or christmas, I know for a fact that the little runt wont know how to use it and will go back to his own Win7 laptop once he finds out that not all software is compatible with Macs.


So for that reason, People will bash other people for their decisions. Also this forum is quite anti-Apple so that doesnt help either.


People that build their own rigs understand the meaning of value and performance while others that dont and dont care to learn and could care less about value and what their hard earned cash really gets spent on.

Not quite sure what that has to do with choice and working 50 hours a week but I know where your coming from

[buildzoid]

the current mac pros are slower than a 3970x at stock even the ones with 24 threads because they are on the westmere architecture and and max speed is 3.33Ghz SB-e is about 25-30% faster than westmere clock per clock. If you buy some mid range X79 board 32GB of 1600mhz ram and a HD7850/gtx 660 a 650w PSU and 2TB drives in raid 5 then you will totally destroy the Mac pro in price and performance as well as in software compatibility. And if you want cheaper throw out the 7850 and use a 6670 and you even cheaper.
BTW I am writing this of a Macbook PRO (it is one shitty shitty laptop)