Security risk found for home routers

Jetster · Feb 11, 2013, 05:41 AM

Evidently they have found a security risk in over a million routers with UPnP. It effects many brands

http://www.csoonline.com/article/727...rom-upnp-flaws

Here is a test for it

https://www.grc.com/shieldsup

My router Netgear WNDR4300

remixedcat · Feb 11, 2013, 06:29 AM

Heard of this and my Amped Wireless R20000G and R10000 are not on any of the 3 lists!

http://remixedcat.blogspot.com/2013/...n-lots-of.html

I have a link to the lists as well....

I did both tests with UPnP on and I passed and go the "not responding" message instead of rejected message which the not responding message is the best one.

But both those routers ship with UPNP disabled.

james888 · Feb 11, 2013, 07:22 AM

Was turned on by default. Now off. Nothing I used anyways. Thanks for the tip. Router is a netgear 3700.

HammerON · Feb 11, 2013, 07:27 AM

Shields up Captain:
"THE EQUIPMENT AT THE TARGET IP ADDRESS
DID NOT RESPOND TO OUR UPnP PROBES!

(That's good news!)"

1nf3rn0x · Feb 11, 2013, 08:08 AM

Safe

AsRock · Feb 11, 2013, 08:26 AM

Same here all blocked.

droopyRO · Feb 11, 2013, 09:32 AM

Safe here also ... but why is the FBI knocking on my door ?

remixedcat · Feb 11, 2013, 10:23 AM

also guys please specify what router you have here too... that would help others.

AsRock · Feb 11, 2013, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remixedcat

also guys please specify what router you have here too... that would help others.

WRT54G running Tomato

syeef · Feb 11, 2013, 11:28 AM

Already read about this on NextPowerUp! on Feb 3rd.
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/692/...g-devices.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1nf3rn0x

http://img.techpowerup.org/130211/Untitled.png
Safe

Not Safe... Your IP is 58.168.116.239

syeef · Feb 11, 2013, 11:41 AM

Looks like I am NOT Safe as well

.

I am using a AWB RG300 4G WiMAX Modem/Router that was supplied by my ISP.

_JP_ · Feb 11, 2013, 11:51 AM

Router Model: Conceptronic C54BRS4A v1.0 (Grey box)
Firmware Version: 2.02

UPnP ON
Results:

Quote:

THE EQUIPMENT AT THE TARGET IP ADDRESS
DID NOT RESPOND TO OUR UPnP PROBES!
(That's good news!)

UPnP OFF
Results:

Quote:

THE EQUIPMENT AT THE TARGET IP ADDRESS
DID NOT RESPOND TO OUR UPnP PROBES!
(That's good news!)

Crap Daddy · Feb 11, 2013, 12:31 PM

Everything's fine over here. I have D-link DIR 600 if that helps others.

FordGT90Concept · Feb 11, 2013, 12:34 PM

Netopia 3341 ADSL Gateway (PPPoE)
D-Link DGL-4500 Router
Did not respond to UPnP probes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by syeef

I am using a AWB RG300 4G WiMAX Modem/Router that was supplied by my ISP.

There's your problem.

TheMailMan78 · Feb 11, 2013, 12:35 PM

I have one router plugged into the web and another router plugged into that. If the primary router is safe so is the second one correct?

FordGT90Concept · Feb 11, 2013, 12:38 PM

Only if you are positive that the first router is not responding. If the first is passing it through to the second and the second is not responding, the first may still be vulnerable.

brandonwh64 · Feb 11, 2013, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I have one router plugged into the web and another router plugged into that. If the primary router is safe so is the second one correct?

So you have two routers on the same network and why?

TheMailMan78 · Feb 11, 2013, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Only if you are positive that the first router is not responding. If the first is passing it through to the second and the second is not responding, the first may still be vulnerable.

No the one I tested is the primary one. It didn't respond. The other one gets its internet connection from the primary one. No worries then. Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

So you have two routers on the same network and why?

Because one I have to use because I get my phone through it. However its not really the best wireless. So I have another router hooked up to it for wireless. Tablets and smart phones just don't like the primary router.

syeef · Feb 11, 2013, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Quote:

Originally Posted by syeef

I am using a AWB RG300 4G WiMAX Modem/Router that was supplied by my ISP.

There's your problem.

My ISP only sells that Modem/Router and provides no option for 3rd-party

Modem/Router.

With UPnP OFF I get:

Quote:

THE EQUIPMENT AT THE TARGET IP ADDRESS
ACTIVELY REJECTED OUR UPnP PROBES!

(That's good news!)

remixedcat · Feb 11, 2013, 01:17 PM

wow with UPNP off you should get the "not responding" instead of rejection... that's wierd...

I get the "not responding" message with UPNP on on my Amped.

Phusius · Feb 11, 2013, 01:30 PM

I have ATT Uverse router, says im all safe on my end.

erixx · Feb 11, 2013, 01:58 PM

I run ShieldsUp! every once in a while since many years. Still trust it.

BTW, "REJECTED" is slightly less secure then "NOT RESPONDED"

remixedcat · Feb 11, 2013, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erixx

I run ShieldsUp! every once in a while since many years. Still trust it.

BTW, "REJECTED" is slightly less secure then "NOT RESPONDED"

Yups and that's what I was sayin earlier...

johnspack · Feb 11, 2013, 02:39 PM

Asus RT-N16 running EasyTomato, no response.

syeef · Feb 11, 2013, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erixx

BTW, "REJECTED" is slightly less secure then "NOT RESPONDED"

Quote:

Originally Posted by remixedcat

Yups and that's what I was sayin earlier...

Hmm... Sad.

And it seems I won't be able to turn off UPnP after all... having trouble playing Multiplayer without it

.

And am I the only one here with this Security Issue? LOL.

Feb 11, 2013, 05:41 AM	#1
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,869 (2.35/day) Thanks: 931 Thanked 861 Times in 630 Posts System Specs	Security risk found for home routers Evidently they have found a security risk in over a million routers with UPnP. It effects many brands http://www.csoonline.com/article/727...rom-upnp-flaws Here is a test for it https://www.grc.com/shieldsup My router Netgear WNDR4300 Last edited by Jetster; Feb 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM.

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Feb 11, 2013, 06:29 AM	#2
remixedcat Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,179 (1.07/day) Thanks: 754 Thanked 248 Times in 190 Posts System Specs	Heard of this and my Amped Wireless R20000G and R10000 are not on any of the 3 lists! http://remixedcat.blogspot.com/2013/...n-lots-of.html I have a link to the lists as well.... I did both tests with UPnP on and I passed and go the "not responding" message instead of rejected message which the not responding message is the best one. But both those routers ship with UPNP disabled. __________________ System:Intel i5 3570K @ 3.4Ghz//ASRock Z77 Pro3//Coolemaster Hyper 212 Evo//16GB Corsair XMS3//EVGA Nvidia GTX 650Ti SSC 1GB//128GB Samsung 840 SSD/1.5TB Seagate HDD//Antec Three Hundred Two//620w Antec High Current Gamer HCG-620M//Windows Server 2012 x64 Standard Misc:Samsung SyncMaster P2350 23in@1920x1080+LG Flatron 19in 1440x900//IoSafe Fireproof ext 500GB HDD//Amped Wireless R20000G high power router//APC BackUPS XS1000 UPS Websites: AGNXNetworks//RemixedCat's Place Of Meow Blog Last edited by remixedcat; Feb 11, 2013 at 01:18 PM.

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Feb 11, 2013, 07:22 AM	#3
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Feb 11, 2013, 07:27 AM	#4
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Feb 11, 2013, 08:26 AM	#6
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Feb 11, 2013, 09:32 AM	#7
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Feb 11, 2013, 11:41 AM	#11
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Feb 11, 2013, 12:31 PM	#13
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