Apple Updates Processors & Prices of MacBook Pro with Retina Display

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

funny how people argue "need" on tpu. you don't need water cooled 4.5ghz processors and 2x titan gpus but you have them. hypocrits...

(not you fourstaff, just in general)

Honestly I do not see a need for that either. 4.5ghz nowadays is more for fun cause a stock 3770K will do everything you need it to do at stock clocks alone. The need for two titans... yea thats pretty ridiculous.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

funny how people argue "need" on tpu. you don't need water cooled 4.5ghz processors and 2x titan gpus but you have them. hypocrits...

(not you fourstaff, just in general)

The human brain is pretty special you see: if its something I want whatever the product is its the second coming of the messiah. If its a product I don't want its the black death reincarnate: purge it before the rot spreads! Reasonable people suddenly becomes unreasonable, trolls come out of their caves in full force, innocent sheeps slaughtered for fun.

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Yeah? Look at my rig. You see any OC or anything? Everything in it was planed out for budget and purpose. Why can't you just admit 2560x1600 at 13" is USELESS FOR ANYTHING.

Well, if you can't think of a use for it doesn't mean that there is not a use for it. Also, sometimes a product needs to be physically there before you can find a use for it. You don't always go "I need to do X, therefore I invent Y to help me do X", sometimes its "lets invent Y and see what we can do with it". Viagra is one of the more famous examples, in a slightly different setting.

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Honestly I do not see a need for that either. 4.5ghz nowadays is more for fun cause a stock 3770K will do everything you need it to do at stock clocks alone. The need for two titans... yea thats pretty ridiculous.

I don't know, if you find getting 4.5Ghz is pretty fun I am sure someone will find 2560x1600 pretty fun too. Humans are easily amused.

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Yeah? Look at my rig. You see any OC or anything? Everything in it was planed out for budget and purpose. Why can't you just admit 2560x1600 at 13" is USELESS FOR ANYTHING.

and bill gates said you will never need more than 640K of ram. honestly, you are ruining TPU. please go away.

[lZKoce]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

funny how people argue "need" on tpu. you don't need water cooled 4.5ghz processors and 2x titan gpus but you have them. hypocrits...

(not you fourstaff, just in general)

You could easily say that in the Noctua thread, where people are bitching about a brown fan why its not black/red/blue>? If it was purple it would match the colour of my sneakers

I am not judging, it's complicated, that's all.

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

The human brain is pretty special you see: if its something I want whatever the product is its the second coming of the messiah. If its a product I don't want its the black death reincarnate: purge it before the rot spreads! Reasonable people suddenly becomes unreasonable, trolls come out of their caves in full force, innocent sheeps slaughtered for fun.

LOL

Ok well seeing as how asking questions about the need for that resolution on that screen is "unreasonable and trollish" then I guess I am not a realist and just bitching.

Never the less, I did not say this product is worthless but only questioned the need for a certain feature.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

The human brain is pretty special you see: if its something I want whatever the product is its the second coming of the messiah. If its a product I don't want its the black death reincarnate: purge it before the rot spreads! Reasonable people suddenly becomes unreasonable, trolls come out of their caves in full force, innocent sheeps slaughtered for fun.

I'm just looking at this from a common sense point of view. Not to sound like a hipster but I was using Apple professionally WAY before they were the bees knees. 13" at that price just doesn't make sense in todays market or any practical use.

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

and bill gates said you will never need more than 640K of ram. honestly, you are ruining TPU. please go away.

Nice. Completely irrelevant to anything in this thread.

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Well, if you can't think of a use for it doesn't mean that there is not a use for it. Also, sometimes a product needs to be physically there before you can find a use for it. You don't always go "I need to do X, therefore I invent Y to help me do X", sometimes its "lets invent Y and see what we can do with it". Viagra is one of the more famous examples, in a slightly different setting.

Let me know when you find a use to justify that price.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Ok well seeing as how asking questions about the need for that resolution on that screen is "unreasonable and trollish" then I guess I am not a realist and just bitching.

I never said anything about "Ok well seeing as how asking questions about the need for that resolution on that screen is "unreasonable and trollish"", if you want the reason this is a good thread to find out whatever reason there is to need a 2560x1600 screen.

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

I never said anything about "Ok well seeing as how asking questions about the need for that resolution on that screen is "unreasonable and trollish"", if you want the reason this is a good thread to find out whatever reason there is to need a 2560x1600 screen.

Well it seemed as your post about the trolls coming out of the closet was hint enough.

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

and bill gates said you will never need more than 640K of ram. honestly, you are ruining TPU. please go away.

Yes, one man single handedly is ruining TPU.

I think you have finished your work in this thread, go get your money from Apple.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I'm just looking at this from a common sense point of view. Not to sound like a hipster but I was using Apple professionally WAY before they were the bees knees. 13" at that price just doesn't make sense in todays market or any practical use.

Well I have since got rid of common sense when it comes to looking at new product launches, there are so many crazy inventions out there that 13" MBP Retina is just one of the more mundane and predictable things. "Move along, nothing to see here" attitude. To me the only difference between a Dell (generic laptop) and a MBP is Retina display, take away Retina and suddenly it becomes almost impossible to justify the price.

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Let me know when you find a use to justify that price.

Will do. I suspect you will know the reason before me, given that you work with the creative industry.

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Let me know when you find a use to justify that price.

doctors use high res monitors every day. having a high res monitor on a mobile device makes all the difference in the world to patient care. now go away.

[brandonwh64]

I honestly like the retina displays and believe more and more company's should offer such style screens. Like I had mentioned to lZKoce in PM, I would like to see this product close up and maybe it will answer more questions I have.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Well I have since got rid of common sense when it comes to looking at new product launches, there are so many crazy inventions out there that 13" MBP Retina is just one of the more mundane and predictable things. "Move along, nothing to see here" attitude. To me the only difference between a Dell (generic laptop) and a MBP is Retina display, take away Retina and suddenly it becomes almost impossible to justify the price.


Will do. I suspect you will know the reason before me, given that you work with the creative industry.

Seriously if someone can come up with a practical use Ill admit I was wrong. However I am willing to bet whatever that use may be it will be for a VERY SMALL market and I doubt Apple is catering to just them. Anyway I'm done here. I just wish Apple would be Apple again.

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

doctors use high res monitors every day. having a high res monitor on a mobile device makes all the difference in the world to patient care. now go away.

You are kidding right? This is FAR from being a medical grade monitor AND do you really want a doctor to look at a brain scan on a 13" screen? You are grabbing at straws now.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

I honestly like the retina displays and believe more and more company's should offer such style screens. Like I had mentioned to lZKoce in PM, I would like to see this product close up and maybe it will answer more questions I have.

Walk into the nearest Apple store and give it a spin. If you don't have an Apple store nearby, wait for the show-off to get one and then take a look at his/hers.

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Walk into the nearest Apple store and give it a spin. If you don't have an Apple store nearby, wait for the show-off to get one and then take a look at his/hers.

I have one in chattanooga mall and my wife shops there a lot so yep I will check it out. I am thinking on paper of what would look like and a hands on experience would be the best bet

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Seriously if someone can come up with a practical use Ill admit I was wrong. However I am willing to bet whatever that use may be it will be for a VERY SMALL market and I doubt Apple is catering to just them. Anyway I'm done here. I just wish Apple would be Apple again.



You are kidding right? This is FAR from being a medical grade monitor AND do you really want a doctor to look at a brain scan on a 13" screen? You are grabbing at straws now.

uhm, ive seen them use the new ipads with retina displays to show patients high res mri and xray scans. much easier than waiting to have the film developed or walking out a massive med cart with a workstation attached to it.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Seriously if someone can come up with a practical use Ill admit I was wrong. However I am willing to bet whatever that use may be it will be for a VERY SMALL market and I doubt Apple is catering to just them. Anyway I'm done here. I just wish Apple would be Apple again.

Inadvertently serving a niche market is always good. Also, Apple has since become a luxury good which has lost most of its roots. This is not uncommon: examples being Blackberry, Range Rover among others.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

uhm, ive seen them use the new ipads with retina displays to show patients high res mri and xray scans. much easier than waiting to have the film developed or walking out a massive med cart with a workstation attached to it. .

If your doctor is using an iPad to review medical images you need to find another doctor. Also showing a patient an image and reviewing them for a diagnoses is two VERY different things.

[lemonadesoda]

Once again I say to all these retina naysayers... WHAT PRINTER DO YOU HAVE? I bet all the fire in satan's hell you don't have a 120dpi printer, but more like 600dpi and higher. Why? Why? Why, do you bother with a 600dpi printer if you "like" low resolution? Hmm? Dot matrix for you!

Er, as MM said, I do hope no-one is using a 13" screen for medical images. In fact, not even a regular IPS TFT is good enough? Why, because medical images are B&W/greyscale and with 24bit colour, that gives only 8bit greyscale. That just isnt enough for proper analysis of medical images. You need a high bit monitor and an appropriate workstation GPU to drive it.

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

Once again I say to all these retina naysayers... WHAT PRINTER DO YOU HAVE? I bet all the fire in satan's hell you don't have a 120dpi printer, but more like 600dpi and higher. Why? Why? Why, do you bother with a 600dpi printer if you "like" low resolution? Hmm? Dot matrix for you!

What does printers have to do with this? We do Plotter DPI of 2400 at work on 1080P screens fine. I am just curious on why printers are way better with retina?

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

If your doctor is using an iPad to review medical images you need to find another doctor. Also showing a patient an image and reviewing them for a diagnoses is two VERY different things.

i never said they were exclusively using ipads to review scans... i mentioned patient care... is your brain broken?

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

i never said they were exclusively using ipads to review scans... i mentioned patient care... is your brain broken?

Then you don't need a retna display for that then do you?

[lemonadesoda]

When you charge your patients $500 per hour, it helps to impress them

[brandonwh64]

I have yet to see an Ipad at a Doc office unless its a secretary checking facebook on break. Most of the devices I have seen are the dell laptops with the reversible screen with USB connections.

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Then you don't need a retna display for that then do you?

yes, you do need a retina display because it shows the image much clearer. you can zoom into specific spots. the patient can hold it and look around while the doctor explains to them what they are seeing in much higher resolution than 720p. you turned your brain off, didn't you?