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Is there a laptop manufacturer that is bloat free?
My go-to vendor used to be Systemax because they don't put any bloat on computers unless you explicitly request it. They seem to be exiting the business so I'm looking for a different bloat-free vendor that offers laptops for less than $750 (must have a DVD+/-RW). Anyone know of any?
An acceptable alternative bloat is that comes with Windows install disk (bloat not on the images). I perfer disks no matter what.
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Sounds like Vizio sells bloatware free laptops. Looks kinda nice too:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/hands-on-v...s-start-at-898 edit: and I think the prices have gone down since then.. |
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Out of budget ($1130) and doesn't appear to have an optical drive:
http://www.amazon.com/Vizio-CN15-A5-...ls?ref=prid-20 I'll keep it in mind for the future. I hate bloat.
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There is a decrapifier program for new laptops and pc's just for this purpose:
http://pcdecrapifier.com/
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If you are ordering in bulk I believe you can get your run-off-the-mill Dell not to install bloat, if the order is not large enough for specifics then its small enough for you to manually reformat everything
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![]() Does Dell come with the necessary disks to do a clean install? Obviously, said disks can't have the bloat on them or it defeats the purpose.
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Well I purged my sister's Dell, installed a fresh Win7 recovery off one of my backup discs, then proceeded to install drivers (actually only the AMD driver) from the Dell website. No bloat. You can do that for most laptops, the only "bloat" necessary is usually special drivers for the graphics and sometimes audio, and for some laptops keyboard and touchpad shortcuts.
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Unfortunately, this will be a Windows 8 laptop and I don't have any Windows 8 disks yet. If it doesn't come with one, that option won't work.
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You can probably download a copy of win8 into a USB stick or external harddrive, set that as bootable partition and continue from there as in win7.
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Yep just get a copy of Windows 7 from digitalrivercontent and use the key off your new laptop. Keep the image in place just in case you need to send it back for any reason
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can't you not uninstall all the bloatware? just asking.
Like Newtekie said re-image with ur favorite OS and configure the way you like it. That is what I do. I pulled the disk that came in my laptop, replaced with SSD, installed my own W8 and used the disk for storage. When compared to other Dell comes with less bloatware.
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Every computer that came packed with bloat would: a) take longer to uninstall said bloat than quickformat, install new OS, install drivers, and get everything updated. b) Uninstalling bloat has often lead to system instability. c) Uninstallers rarely completely remove the software. Best solution is to simply not have it exist in the first place. I gravitated towards Dell first (Inspiron 15R) but when I went to customize, it didn't ask about hardware, it asked about software--about 15 pages of it. Most of them it doesn't give an option to opt out of (e.g McCfee crapware is mandatory). I said "fuck that," closed it, can started this thread.
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Download win 8 and reformat with it? Making sure you copy your key before doing the reformat.
Wouldn't that work?
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Download from where? I don't have a MSDN subscription.
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You put your product key into MS Website and they will let you download the ISO, I did it with my Win 8 key a couple months ago. Let me find links.
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A certain bay? You would have already bought the thing.
NVM: theonedub says you can just get the ISO directly form Microsoft.
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You know, come to think of it, last fall I bought a Clevo W110ER from Cyberpowerpc.com for Diablo 3 on the go and it came with ZERO bloatware AND a Custom Win 7 restore CD with the laptop drivers on it.
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Here you go:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...oduct-key-only Download the installer, follow directions, and you should be good to go. The only thing is I used this with a retail Win 8 Pro key, haven't tried it with a OEM Key. If that doesn't work, I could easily ship you off a DVD with the ISO of Win8 Pro x64 (thats the ISO I have in hand direct from MS).
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Eh, "this must be a PC that is currently running Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP with Service Pack 3 (SP3), Windows 8 Release Preview, Windows 8 Consumer Preview, or Windows Developer Preview." And, "don't format your hard drive before installing Windows 8. Your current version of Windows must be running when you begin installing Windows 8." Sounds like upgrade only. I hate upgrades as much as bloat. ![]() I'm finding systems at (Clevo search lead me there, Clevo seems like an OEM for large orders) Sager and CyberPowerPCs that may do the job (might have to talk him up a little on price). Anyone have any comments on Sager/CyberPowerPC laptops? Edit: CyberPowerPC is looking a bit spendy and there's no way to option out a dedicate graphics card. Battery life is more important to this customer than performance. He'll be using it in a place where power is virtually nonexistant.
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I've been perfectly happy with my cyberpowerpc and they were cheaper than avadirect, xotic, ion, etc. when I purchased mine. Sign up and they have email holiday upgrades and promotions too.
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Think they did have some slim line hd4000 only laptops when I bought last year.
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The upgrade part about not formatting would then only apply to those with upgrade keys (like the $15 promo upgrades, for example). Full retail keys need not worry. Like I mentioned, the only hiccup I can foresee is it not accepting an OEM key. I'll text my brother and attempt to get the product key off his new Win 8 laptop and see if it works
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I pretty much ruled out CyberPowerPC as being too expensive/too battery draining. Sager looks like the best option I've seen so far. Can anyone comment on their bloat/inclusion of disks? That'd be awesome.
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http://www.ghacks.net/2012/11/10/how...windows-8-iso/
This will allow you to download a bootable ISO that you can then use to do a fresh install using your OEM key.
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